Analysis 2017 List Management Discussion - Part 3

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You cant not like a guy who is willing to back himself and take the game on. If we manage to land him then Bolts should do nothing but encourage him to do it and keep doing it.
Looks good when it comes off but if it doesn’t 90% of the time then it’s a liability. Also, not great for my blood pressure when I lose my shit and turn to the drink
 

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It's more about going when it's your turn, and that's something that I think Boekhorst has happily shown often enough in his career. Explosive pace and precise kicking should be welcomed.
Boekhorst contested ball?? Please! You picked the worst example in our side
 
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You cant not like a guy who is willing to back himself and take the game on. If we manage to land him then Bolts should do nothing but encourage him to do it and keep doing it.
3 goals 11 in 48 games and not a whole lot of inside 50's is worrying. Is exciting when he runs around really fast though.
 

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How important is it for players looking at coming to the club, to know who their captain will be?
If players/managers ask that question, what do we say?

1. Do we tell them that it's going to be Murphy?
2. Do we tell them that it's likely to be Docherty/Cripps, but ask them not to say anything to anyone, yet?
3. Do we just tell them that we don't know and it's something we deal with just before the start of the season?

Does it matter to players looking at coming to our club? It could.
 
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How important is it for players looking at coming to the club, to know who their captain will be?
If players/managers ask that question, what do we say?

1. Do we tell them that it's going to be Murphy?
2. Do we tell them that it's likely to be Docherty/Cripps, but ask them not to say anything to anyone, yet?
3. Do we just tell them that we don't know and it's something we deal with just before the start of the season?

Does it matter to players looking at coming to our club? It could.
Probably that one, most players would realise that Murphy isn't the long term captain
 

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Probably that one, most players would realise that Murphy isn't the long term captain
From "The Journey" he was pretty unanimously voted in to stay captain, which is fine. At 30yo (or whatever he is, about that) obviously he doesn't have long left in the job before a longer term option is anointed. I don't think who the captain is will impact on any of these players' decisions. Overall team/club culture, sure, but that's not dramatically changing via the captain.
 

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Does it even matter if every player nominates Carlton?
I know we are not going to attain all our rumoured targets, maybe two or three would be good(Rocky, Kennedy, Smith), but I am liking the aggression in this years trade period. Makes for plenty of depth in the team next year.
 

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Wonder how long before Port come into the race for Gibbs?

Has Shane Watson been moved on, or will his role be re-structured with Teague coming on board.
The "narrative" is always that their cap is full after getting tied down to long term deals with Lobbe and Hartlett however if they are chasing Rockliff, Motlop and Watts it can't be that bad...
 
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Just has to say he doesn't want to go interstate. Wouldn't be a slight on him as he'd know he'd stay in Victoria, which would be his preference anyway. Don't think he's that far ahead of LDU, Dow or even Fogarty, but he's undoubtably ahead.

A lot will hinge on the AA game I reckon.
I hope that he has a poor AA game so he slips to 3! He's exactly the player we need - unique, strong over head, great on ground level, very strong through the core, explosive pace. We need LDU less because of his poorer disposal. Not sure about Dow or Fogerty.
 

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If all that is speculated goes ahead then our midfield almost gains a centre bounce starting 4 in addition to what we already have.
Cripps, Murphy, Doc, Scully, Rockliff, Smith, Kennedy, Charlie, Ed, Petrevski-Seton, Cuningham, Fisher... (assuming Gibba goes).
 
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The "narrative" is always that their cap is full after getting tied down to long term deals with Lobbe and Hartlett however if they are chasing Rockliff, Motlop and Watts it can't be that bad...
I've read on here (so take it with a grain of salt) that they were one of the teams who didn't have players getting a rise in wage with the increase of the salary cap. If that's true then they could have a couple of million in cap space to play with.
 

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Boekhorst contested ball?? Please! You picked the worst example in our side
Yes, incredibly arrows do not work as well in the same situations as cannon balls, and vice versa.

The very definition of what a contested possession is has changed in this decade, and he's capable of winning some contests on the outside, 1v1. That's going when it's his turn.

You don't send him into the centre stoppage too often, but he can win his own footy, and can be developed to do so more effectively.
 
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