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Even funnier if we had recruited Brisbane's current coach...
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Analysis 2017 List Management Discussion Part II
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Even funnier if we had recruited Brisbane's current coach...
Jimmae
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You are right on the coaching and the group . They will improvise but if we lose Gibbs and dont bring in a readymade replacement it will probably mean a continuation of the ultra defensive game plan which has led to being competitive in most games . Hence delaying the progression to a more attacking style that will have to happen at some stage . If Cripps goes down my opinion strengthens tenfold .
So basically Gibbs is doing a Judd and making sure his old club gets a deal too go to refuse....or he stays
So if the crows win the flag it's pick 17 (GWS doesn't have one)
We take that and then what ?
Next years first ? A second rounder and fringe player OR an Atkins type (best 22 type player)
Gibbs is our last blue chip stock and I'm happy to hold it, but if we chose to cash out we MUST get maximum value
17 and 35 just doesn't do it for me.....
So if the crows win the flag it's pick 17 (GWS doesn't have one)
We take that and then what ?
Next years first ? A second rounder and fringe player OR an Atkins type (best 22 type player)
Gibbs is our last blue chip stock and I'm happy to hold it, but if we chose to cash out we MUST get maximum value
17 and 35 just doesn't do it for me.....
Gibbs is contracted. He isn't making sure of anything, it's our choice whether he stays or goes.
I can't see us having both Kelly and Gibbs next year, but don't think we will be left with neither. Would be too massive a hole in the midfield.
I wonder if the Giants go out in straight sets that it will impact Kelly's decision to stay or go....
I wonder if the Giants go out in straight sets that it will impact Kelly's decision to stay or go....
Ahhh but will only push for a trade if we get what we want
It kinda goes hand in hand
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any significance in the effort - or lack of effort - gibbs gave in that last game where so many observers suggested he had already checked out?
He's good Kelly but not sure he leaves a massive hole if we don't get him. We never had him.
I meant the hole would be big without both Gibbs and Kelly. Our midfield can't afford being weaker than it already is. If we move Gibbs on, I hope it is to get Kelly.
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Was at the game - he was not really in it - but neither were quite a few others...the kids did all the real work and ran out of interest half way through 3rd quarter when Shitney fluked their way to a 30 point lead.
People really underestimate what we have coming through. Charlie Cuningham SPS & Fisher will be very very good and will improve a lot in 2018. Still have Murphy who will be better with more help especially inside. Cripps & Curnow will be back and fit. Pickett with another pre season could easily play off a wing. Polson is very talented and just needs a good pre season. Kerridge a handy back up
We then get Pick 3, Pick 9 plus (if Gibbs goes) and possibly Kennedy Smith & Balic. Future looks bright IMO
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We haven't got Murphy anymore Harker traded him a few days a go.
Was it for Kelly?
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He isn't injured physically so he clearly has something mental blocking his performance, call a spade a spade don't cover it in sugar and call it strawberry jam.
Mental doesn't mean someone has depression or anxiety, it can be as simple as 2nd guessing your decisions where otherwise you wouldn't have, I never stated he has real mental health issues just issues mentally effecting his performance.
17 and 35 or whatever it was I saw is a joke, that's a backward step from last year when we said NO.
Dees 10 for Lever to us should be a starting point. Lever is worth more than 10. Maybe 10 and 28 for Gibbs.
Then trade 3 and 10 for Kelly and 28 for GWS' Smith if his knee checks out. Sumner upgrade.
Dees 10 for Lever to us should be a starting point. Lever is worth more than 10. Maybe 10 and 28 for Gibbs.
Then trade 3 and 10 for Kelly and 28 for GWS' Smith if his knee checks out. Sumner upgrade.
Don't forget Levi could yet be traded, though unlikely. How many times has a player resigned then agreed to be traded?
Only reason I raise this is SOS surely will be keen to make as many noteworthy changes as possible to the list. Reality is we still have a lot of dead wood.
Only reason I raise this is SOS surely will be keen to make as many noteworthy changes as possible to the list. Reality is we still have a lot of dead wood.
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If this is the general feel of Carlton supporters then Gibbs will be staying. Which will be fine by me as I still think contracts mean something and he had his chance to come home a few years ago. Adelaide won't give up more than their first and second. Certainly not what they get from Lever.
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What the supporters feel has next to zero bearing on any trades.
So our highest pick going into the draft would be 28? Well depending on other deals though
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This is true. Hopefully something can be worked out behind the scenes.
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