Analysis 2017 List Management Discussion

[skadoosh]

It's probably already been mentioned by other posters, but that late trade with the Hawks is looking like a masterstroke.

What are we getting from them?

 

[Jimmae]

Worpel is this year's Will Brodie, perhaps? Premature tip for Nº1, then sliding...

I think he's a better talent than Brodie, but yeah he will slide a little if he doesn't show a touch more agility on the outside.

Much better kick than Brodie.

 

[Azul]

Much better kick than Brodie.

Someone just described Worpel as a "butcher", so I wonder how bad that makes Brodie!

 

[Jeremias]

What are we getting from them?

Macreadie, Polson & Williamson.

 

[ParapMarkets]

I'm working under the assumption that the following will be gone at the end of the year: Jones, White, Korcheck, Casboult, one of Gorringe & Phillips. One third tall defender from GWS would add a little support to that group aside from Rowe.

Nothing fancy, just whichever of Finlayson, Buntine, Himmelberg, Haynes, Corr or Mohr they will part with cheaply (and best suits us).

I know NEAFL form isn't much to write home about, but Sproule is lighting up the scoreboard, and it's their kids driving the midfield, not some senior blokes. Mohr, Simpson and Patton are the bookends, though.

I think White will be retained for another year, I guess it all depends on what SOS can do at the trade table but my gut feel is that White will get another year.

 

[8Special K]

Yeah, but you could see that coming a mile away which is while I objected so much at the time. We weren't in a healthy mindset at the time and you could see that it would all be about Colonel Judd and his foot-soldiers. We were trying to supplement Judd the entire time he was at the club. In hindsight, if it was going to happen at all, we should have given up pick one and kept Kennedy.

If SOS was there at the time he would have traded pick 1 for 2 picks in the first round and drafted Rioli and shuey. Then got Judd for 3 and fev

 

[Kramer1]

Macreadie, Polson & Williamson.

For pick 35-40 ish this year.

Going to sting a little at draft time with no second round pick (yet), but for Macreadie alone you would do it every single time.

 

[Andypooh23]

If SOS was there at the time he would have traded pick 1 for 2 picks in the first round and drafted Rioli and shuey. Then got Judd for 3 and fev

Shuey wasn't in that draft. He was 2008.

Dangerfield went 10. Rioli 13 and I think Rance Harry Taylor and Callan Ward were in the top 20.

 

[Azzurro]

For pick 35-40 ish this year.

Going to sting a little at draft time with no second round pick (yet), but for Macreadie alone you would do it every single time.

Sorry to be that guy, but it's pick 19-25ish isn't it?

 

[Jeremias]

Sorry to be that guy, but it's pick 19-25ish isn't it?

Nope, we traded GWS' second round pick in that deal. Ours was traded earlier in the period as part of the Tuohy trade.

 

[Jeremias]

For pick 35-40 ish this year.

Going to sting a little at draft time with no second round pick (yet), but for Macreadie alone you would do it every single time.

Absolutely. Looks a great trade at this (very) early stage.

 

[bmaurizio]

Macreadie I'm not too surprised as he was rated 10 top for a fair part of last year untill he dropped off the rader , Silvagni must have secreted him somewhere before he swooped.
Honestly a quality tall that we're desperately need , well done, we've not had a win with pick 47 for a very long time.
Williamson looks very good too , and pick 61 unbelievable , hopefully they both continue to do well, Polson I have't seen much but read good things too.
Go Baggers

 

[Toddski]

SOS is a God.

We just need to acquire an extra pick or two under 30 for this year's draft; any ideas?

 

[Heres Waite]

Sorry to be that guy, but it's pick 19-25ish isn't it?

It was the GWS pick that we traded to them ... so it should be a pick in the 32-36 range. That pick for McReadie, Polson and Williamson looks pretty good right now!

 

[Jeremias]

We just need to acquire an extra pick or two under 30 for this year's draft; any ideas?

1) 2018 draft picks
2) #4 & #8
3) GWS

And possibly a combination of two or more of the above...

 

[Soapy V]

SOS is a God.

We just need to acquire an extra pick or two under 30 for this year's draft; any ideas?

Gibbs? Think we blew the priority pick yesterday.

If draft is like last year is there an option to trade pick 1 or 2 for 2 picks inside pick 15? Maybe trade future picks for this year?

Can't see anything else

If somehow SOS can get us another 5-6 good draft picks, a FA, a good trade and a couple of rookies I will be ecstatic

 

[Sector 7G]

I think he's a better talent than Brodie, but yeah he will slide a little if he doesn't show a touch more agility on the outside.

Much better kick than Brodie.

Based on yesterdays game I can see that being the case. Can find it but no real penetration in his kicking and seems to be slow. Wasn't impressed ( much like I wasn't with Matheson) after the big wraps. Stands out like Brodie due to the hair but doesn't have the burst of speed

Only one game so I will be interested to see what he shows in future games.

 

[Jimmae]

Based on yesterdays game I can see that being the case. Can find it but no real penetration in his kicking and seems to be slow. Wasn't impressed ( much like I wasn't with Matheson) after the big wraps. Stands out like Brodie due to the hair but doesn't have the burst of speed

Only one game so I will be interested to see what he shows in future games.

Shit day to showcase skills and acceleration though

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

Or Shiel and Hopper. We use some of that $3 million that we have spare to offer them contracts they can't refuse.

We use a first this year (obtained trade from Adelaide via the Gibbs trade) and next year's first round draft picks to pay for them, plus we forward them whatever change Adelaide give us for Gibbs.

Let's assume Adelaide give us their first round pick this year and we swap our third round for their second. They get Bryce Gibbs.

We on trade Adelaide's first and second round picks this year and our first round pick next year.

We get one of (Kelly or Hopper) plus Shiel. We still have our own first round pick this year to use in the top 5, plus Ben Silvagni next year.

Talk over on the GWS page is that both Kelly and Shiel are set to re-sign. Devon Smith seems to be the vulnerable one of the out of contract players going by the talk there.

 

[Sector 7G]

Shit day to showcase skills and acceleration though

Maybe, but I thought others showed up his deficiencies. Early days and we will have more to base it on in coming months

 

[RudyBlue]

Can we objectively say our recruiting and development has improved? There's still that part of me that wouldn't be surprised if everything turned to shit somehow.

In any case, we have guys picked late in the draft coming in and looking comfortable at senior level. Can't say we've really had that at any time in our history and hopefully more of our draftees can come on.

 

[F_therest]

Talk over on the GWS page is that both Kelly and Shiel are set to re-sign. Devon Smith seems to be the vulnerable one of the out of contract players going by the talk there.

Devon Smith is a gun but not sure he's the type we'd prioritise since he's more a small forward in the Pickett/Sumner/Polson mould.

I'm sure we'd love to have him, but we have bigger priorities in midfielders for now to use our trade assets on.

 

[Pafloyul]

Can we objectively say our recruiting and development has improved? There's still that part of me that wouldn't be surprised if everything turned to shit somehow.

With your Avatar, you are asking for punishment.

 

[F_therest]

Can we objectively say our recruiting and development has improved? There's still that part of me that wouldn't be surprised if everything turned to shit somehow.

In any case, we have guys picked late in the draft coming in and looking comfortable at senior level. Can't say we've really had that at any time in our history and hopefully more of our draftees can come on.

I think it's clear as day even at this early stage that our recruiting and developing has improved out of sight.
Our trading has also improved.

 

[F_therest]

'Midfielder Matthew Kennedy was the major ball-winner with a game-high 36 touches and six tackles'

Kennedy had a big game for GWS in NEAFL and is one to keep an eye out for if he can't get a game at GWS, he should probably move for the sake of his career given Hopper is just ahead of him and there is also Setterfield coming up.

Unfortunately he might get games since Griffen, Whitfield and Coniglio are injured which could entice him to stay but really he can probably see he's not best 22 for GWS, but would be at almost any other team.