List Mgmt. 2017 List Management Resource Compilation Thread with Key Post-Season Dates

Discussion in 'Adelaide' started by NTRabbit, Oct 2, 2017.

Put it out there
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In a hypothetical Bryce Gibbs, would you elect to Bryce Gibbs, Bryce Gibbs, or Bryce Gibbs?

  1. Bryce Gibbs

    16.7%
  2. Gibbs, Bryce

    5.6%
  3. B. Gibbs

    5.6%
  4. ORGANIC GROWTH

    55.6%
  5. Bruce Gibbs

    16.7%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. NTRabbit

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    Grand Final autopsy
    2017 Trade/FA thread part 2
    Jake Lever thread
    Bryce Gibbs thread
    2017 Draft thread


    Uncontracted

    FA Eligible
    -

    Non-FA
    -

    Departures

    Senior List (to) [position]
    Scott Thompson (retired) [Inside Midfield]
    Jake Lever (Melbourne) [Third Tall Defender]
    Dean Gore (Delisted) [Inside Midfield]
    Troy Menzel (Delisted) [Medium Forward]
    Harrison Wigg (Gold Coast) [Half Back Flank]
    Charlie Cameron (Brisbane) [Forward]
    Cameron Ellis-Yolmen (Delisted) [Inside Midfield]

    Rookies (to) [position]
    Sam Shaw (Retired) [Key Defender]
    Jonathon Beech (Delisted) [Medium Forward]

    Draft picks (to)
    10 (Carlton)
    16 (Carlton)
    73 (Carlton)
    35 (Melbourne)
    2018 Second Round (Carlton)
    2018 Third Round (Melbourne)
    2018 Fourth Round (Gold Coast)

    Football Department Staff (to) [position]
    David Teague (Carlton) [Forward Assistant]
    Nathan van Berlo (West Coast) [SANFL Development]
    James Podsiadly (Business) [Defense Assistant]

    Arrivals

    Free Agency & Trade (from) [position]
    Bryce Gibbs (Carlton) [Midfield]
    Sam Gibson (North Melbourne) [Midfield]

    Draft Picks (from)
    10 (Melbourne)
    39 (Gold Coast)
    77 (Carlton)
    2018 First Round (Melbourne)
    2018 Second Round (Carlton)
    2018 Third Round (Carlton)
    2018 Fourth Round (Melbourne)

    Football Department Staff (from) [position]
    Josh Francou (Sydney) [Forward Assistant]
    Ben Hart (Media, Collingwood) [Defense Assistant]
    Brent Reilly (Henley Sharks) [SANFL Development]

    Elevations (to)
    Hugh Greenwood (senior list)
    Alex Keath (senior list)

    National Draft (from) [position]
    12. Darcy Fogarty (Glenelg) [HFF/Midfield]
    40. Andrew McPherson (WWT) [Medium Defender]

    Preseason Draft (from) [position]
    -

    Rookie Draft (from) [position]
    17. Patrick Wilson (Sturt) [Midfield/Defense]
    35. Cameron Ellis-Yolmen (Adelaide) [Inside Midfield]
    53. Lachlan Murphy (Northern Knights) [Defense]
    71. Jackson Edwards (Glenelg) [Midfield]

    International/Alternative Talent Rule (from)
    -

    Number Changes (previous, last owner)
    1. Greenwood (20, Beech)
    5. M. Crouch (44, Thompson)
    6. Gibbs (*, Lever)
    10. Poholke (31, Wigg)
    19. Edwards (*, Dangerfield)
    20. Gibson (*, Greenwood)
    23. - (, Cameron)
    31. Wilson (*, Poholke)
    32. Fogarty (*, Menzel)
    36. McPherson (*, Gore)
    44. Murphy (*, M. Crouch)
    46. - (, Ramsey)
    47. - (, Kelly)

    National Draft Order (Pre-bidding)
    Round 1

    1. Brisbane
    2. Fremantle
    3. Carlton
    4. North Melbourne
    5. Fremantle
    6. Collingwood
    7. St. Kilda (future traded from Hawthorn)
    8. St. Kilda
    9. Western Bulldogs
    10. Carlton
    11. GWS
    12. Adelaide (future traded from Port Adelaide)
    13. West Coast
    14. Sydney
    15. Brisbane (future traded from Geelong)
    16. Western Bulldogs
    17. Richmond
    Compensation Selections
    18. Brisbane (for Rockliff)
    19. Gold Coast (hilariously for Motlop, because you can't spell institutional corruption without AFL)
    Round 2
    20. Richmond
    21. West Coast
    22. Geelong (future traded from Carlton)
    23. North Melbourne
    24. Geelong (future traded from Fremantle)
    25. Richmond (future traded from Collingwood)
    26. West Coast (future traded from Hawthorn)
    27. GWS (future traded from St Kilda)
    28. GWS
    29. Melbourne
    30. Carlton
    31. Melbourne
    32. West Coast
    33. Sydney
    34. Port Adelaide (future traded from GWS)
    35. Geelong
    36. Melbourne
    37. West Coast (future traded from Richmond)
    Round 3
    38. Collingwood (future traded from Brisbane)
    39. Adelaide
    40. Brisbane
    41. Fremantle (future traded from North Melbourne)
    42. Fremantle
    43. Hawthorn (future traded from Collingwood)
    44. Brisbane
    45. St. Kilda
    46. Port Adelaide (future traded from Collingwood)
    47. Melbourne
    48. Essendon
    49. Port Adelaide
    50. Gold Coast
    51. Sydney
    52. Brisbane (future traded from GWS)
    53. Richmond
    54. Gold Coast
    55. Richmond
    Round 4
    56. Collingwood (future traded from Brisbane)
    57. GWS (future traded from Gold Coast)
    58. Geelong
    59. St Kilda (future traded from North Melbourne)
    60. Fremantle
    61. Collingwood
    62. Port Adelaide
    63. St Kilda
    64. North Melbourne (future traded from Western Bulldogs)
    65. GWS (originally pick 15, after 1000 point penalty for Whitfield ASADA incident)
    66. Fremantle
    67. Essendon
    68. Hawthorn
    69. West Coast
    70. Collingwood
    71. Fremantle
    72. Geelong
    73. Carlton
    74. Richmond


    Important Dates

    Tuesday October 3 – Friday October 6 – NAB AFL Draft Combine

    Friday October 6 - NAB AFL restricted free agency offer and unrestricted free agency period begins

    Monday October 9, 9am* - NAB AFL Trade Period begins

    Saturday October 14 - South Australian Draft Combine

    Sunday October 15 - West Australian Draft Combine

    Sunday October 15, 5pm - Close of NAB AFL restricted free agency offer and unrestricted free agency period


    Wednesday October 18 - NAB AFL restricted free agency matching offer three-day period ends

    Thursday October 19, 2pm – NAB AFL Trade Period closes


    Tuesday October 31 - AFL fixture for 2018 released

    Wednesday November 1 - NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (1) begins

    Wednesday November 8 - NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (1) closes

    Friday November 10 - NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (2) begins

    Friday November 17, 5pm - NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (2) closes

    The NAB AFL Draft returns to Sydney in 2017. The draft will be held on Friday, November 24


    Saturday November 25 - NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (3) begins

    Sunday November 26, 2pm - NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (3) closes

    The NAB AFL Pre-season and Rookie Drafts will be held from 5pm on Monday, November 27.


    Wednesday November 29, 2pm - Final AFL club list lodgement



    AFLW

    Departures

    Senior List (to) [position]

    Kellie Gibson (Fremantle) [Forward]
    Heather Anderson (Delisted) [Defence]
    Monique Hollick (Delisted)
    Lauren O'Shea (Delisted)
    Tayla Thorn (Delisted [Defence]
    Sophie Armitstead (Delisted)

    Draft picks (to)

    -

    Football Department Staff (to) [position]

    -

    Arrivals

    Free Agency & Trade (from)

    Sophie Armitstead

    Draft Picks (from)

    -

    Football Department Staff (from) [position]

    Andrew McLeod [Midfield tactics assistant]
    Peter Caven [Defensive assistant]

    Elevations (to)
    Erin Phillips (senior list)

    National Draft (from) [position]
    8. Jess Allan (Salisbury/Glenalg) [Ruck/KPP]
    16. Jasmyn Hewett (St. Mary's) [Forward/Ruck]
    24. Eloise Jones (Morphetville Park/Glenelg) [Midfield]
    31. Marijana Rajcic (Norwood) [Midfield/Forward]
    37. Ruth Wallace (Adelaide University/Norwood) [Key Forward]
    41. Rheanne Lugg (Riverina Lions) [Wing]

    Preseason Draft (from) [position]
    -

    Rookie Draft (from) [position]
    8. Calista Boyd (Wanderers) [Small Forward]
    15. Brianna Walling (Morphetville Park/Glenelg) [Midfield/Forward]

    International/Alternative Talent Rule (from)
    Becchara Palmer (Volleyball)

    Number Changes (previous, last owner)
    2. Jones (*, Gibson)
    12. Boyd (*, *)
    15. Wallace (*, Thorn)
    18. Palmer (*, Hollick)
    19. - (*, Anderson)
    20. Hewett (*, *)
    21. Walling (*, O'Shea)
    25. J. Allan (*, *)
    32. Rajcic (*, *)
    45. Lugg (*, *)
     
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  2. GreyCrow

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    Can add Josh Francou to arrivals
     
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  3. Banshee23

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    Is Sam shaw still rookie listed?
     
  4. NTRabbit

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    We're fully expecting Shaw to go now that he's looked after by the new CBA, but there's been no announcement from the club yet. Likewise Francou arriving and Teague leaving are just media rumours at this stage.
     
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    Club just confirmed Teague and Francou
     
  6. NTRabbit

    NTRabbit Brownlow Medallist

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    Club has officially announced Lever is pulling a Gunston. Feeling some vindication over saying it was a mistake to recruit him back on that draft day.
     
  7. NTRabbit

    NTRabbit Brownlow Medallist

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    Gore and Menzel delisted, Sam Shaw departure confirmed
     
  8. ltdamn

    ltdamn Club Legend

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    I'm actually really disappointed with Menzel and Gore's delisting. Don't think Menzel particularly got a fair crack at it, just piecemeal games here and there, and with Cameron leaving next year I would have thought his opportunity to make an impact would have increased.
     
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  10. NTRabbit

    NTRabbit Brownlow Medallist

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    Editing the OP doesn't seem to bring it back, only replying does.

    I put the other draft changes in as well, ie Devon Smith
     
  11. TexForPM

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    Good job wabbit
     

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  12. 1970crow

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    Made a tidy profit and he's played done good footy for us. Can't be unhappy with drafting him. Francou's role has not been identified yet.
     
  13. NTRabbit

    NTRabbit Brownlow Medallist

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    Added the return of Ben Hart
     
  14. NTRabbit

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    Added the details for our reigning AFLW premiership side
     
  15. deaneus

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    When is next year’s draw released?
     
  16. NTRabbit

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    deaneus Extremist Moderator

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    That’s so meta

    I added that to the OP a couple of hours ago
     
  18. NTRabbit

    NTRabbit Brownlow Medallist

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    That explains why I didn't remember putting it there myself!
     
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    jumboprince MASSIVE MEMBER

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    When do the next round of delistings happen?

    Any chance of a DFA being picked up?
     
  20. NTRabbit

    NTRabbit Brownlow Medallist

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    No set time, but our next round of delistings - if we have any to make - will probably happen this week, next Monday at the latest.

    Whether or not we sign a DFA I don't know, since we took a short cut already to sign Gibson. With 3 or 4 senior spots to fill at the draft (Keath may yet be elevated) and another 2-5 available rookie list positions (Keath takes one if not elevated per cat B rules, Beech and Hunter may go), certainly there might be an argument to taking another top up player instead of pick 127, or more likely pick 70-80 something, as this draft has all the hallmarks of passes and rookie elevations happening by pick 50.
     
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  21. Eagleboy2011

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    For what it is worth we have pick 77 from Carlton.
     
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  22. Maggsy

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    Excellent write up mate, Very good overview to see what's happening in the coming weeks.
     
  23. Maggsy

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    Just one question though, with the below players coming out:
    Scott Thompson (retired) [Inside Midfield]
    Jake Lever (Melbourne) [Third Tall Defender]
    Dean Gore (delisted) [Inside Midfield]
    Troy Menzel (delisted) [Medium Forward]
    Harrison Wigg (Gold Coast) [Half Back Flank]
    Charlie Cameron (Brisbane) [Forward]
    Sam Shaw (retired) [Key defender]

    and Bryce Gibbs + Sam Gibson coming in, I'm counting 7 going out, (2 in) 5 Spots up for grabs (Shaw a rookie spot, and Greenwood taking a senior spot which opens up another rookie spot?

    I'm counting that we will be One less in terms of senior players, unless i'm missing something. Based on this, will we be using our Preseason draft allocated pick just to fill the list? or perhaps upgrade Jarman/Keath and pick another rookie? (assuming we have another rookie spot/pick available just not shown?

    National Draft (from) [position]
    12.
    39.
    77. - Reserved for Jackson Edwards
    109. - Reserved for Hugh Greenwood upgrade

    Preseason Draft (from) [position] - These are never usually used, the Preseason draft it basically redundant now. (but will it this year?)
    17.

    Rookie Draft (from) [position]
    17. - Replacement Rookie pick for H.Greenwood
    35. - New Rookie pick up
    53. - New Rookie pick up
     
  24. NTRabbit

    NTRabbit Brownlow Medallist

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    Greenwood was a cat B rookie, so he's not vacating a spot on the rookie list proper.

    Our current rookie list is Beech, Hunter, and Jarman, with 3 vacancies.

    How many rookies we pick up depends on how we rate the available talent, whether or not we delist Hunter and Beech, and whether we promote Keath to the senior list or not - Keath is also a cat B rookie, but now that he's played senior games he must be promoted to either the cat A rookie list, or the senior list.

    So we could take 0 new rookies (retain Beech and Hunter with Jarman, promote Keath to cat A, leave 2 spots empty), or we could take as many as 5 (retain Jarman, delist Beech and Hunter, promote Keath to senior list, and have 0 spots empty).

    As for our senior list, we have 6 outs, 3 ins, and we entered 2017 one player short, so we still have to bring in 4 more players - any combo of Keath, draft picks, and delisted free agents.
     
  25. Vader

    Vader Sith Lord

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    We don't have 3 vacancies on our rookie list. Having only 39 players on our senior list meant that we were entitled to have 5 players on our (CatA) rookie list this year. Shaw has retired. The club hasn't announced any other changes so far. This gives us 2 vacancies - 1 of which is dependent on not having a full senior list.