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Schade's comments would mean Darcy in defence is not just a trial.. they are serious about him playing CHB.

Brander or Fogarty you would think.

Also might mean we're doing this in preparation for an established key forward joining us next free agency period ;) give Darcy a 12 month head start!!
 

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Unknown Identity said:
Schade's comments would mean Darcy in defence is not just a trial.. they are serious about him playing CHB.

Brander or Fogarty you would think.

Also might mean we're doing this in preparation for an established key forward joining us next free agency period ;) give Darcy a 12 month head start!!
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Well Bucks did get a 2 yr extension.
 
Brent Daniels

Height
171cm
Weight
70kg
Current Team
Bendigo, Vic Country
Birthday
March 9, 1999


DRAFT ANALYSIS: "Brent Daniels is a nuggety midfielder who has explosive speed and good skills for a player who is predominantly inside. He can sometiems overuse the football and get caught or fumble at top speed, but as a whole he has had an impressive year."

OVERVIEW

Brent Daniels is a player that reminds me a little of Dane Swan in the way that he moves. At 171cm and 70kg he is clearly well below the expected height of modern footballers, but like Caleb Daniel before him, he ticks more boxes than most. He is one of the best users in the TAC Cup, averaging more than 70 per cent by foot, and he has the athleticism to make him a dangerous prospect on the outside. Despite the attractive outside features, Daniels wins the majority of his possessions on the inside, maintaining a high efficiency in the process. The areas of improvement from here are his tendancy to sometimes run that extra couple of metres and lose possession, as well as improving his hands on the inside.

STRENGTHS

  • Skill
  • Speed
  • Goal sense
  • Agility
Daniels is an exciting pocket rocket who started as a smart forward, but progressed into the midfield later in the season. His damaging combination of speed and skill make him able to play anywhere on the field and had it not been for his height, he could have been a running half-back as well. Often Daniels is seen bursting through the middle of the ground taking a few bounces and then kicking inside 50. He is not afraid to back himself in and take on the opposition. It was no surprise he recorded a 2.95 second 20m sprint and a 8.11 second agility test at the National Combine. He is nimble but has the strength to break tackles if required, and giving him and inch will see him take a mile.

If Daniels was 10-15cm taller, no doubt he would be in discussions as a first round selection. There is no getting past the height factor, but given he received a National Combine invite shows that clubs are willing to overlook his height. He will likely play as a small forward at AFL level and he has the brains and goal sense to play there and worry opponents. He uses his agility to break free of an opposition players’ grasp and apply scoreboard pressure, which he did often earlier in the 2017 season. He booted 13 goals from seven games with the Pioneers, but this is a more impressive stat given most of his matches later on he played predominantly through the midfield.

IMPROVEMENTS

  • Hands in close
  • Overuse of the footy
Daniels improvements are pretty straight forward and can be fixed. We won’t include the height, because that is more of a question mark and cannot be an improvement. But the two main improvements are his hands in close, and his overuse of the football. Daniels is not too dissimilar to Devon Smith in that he backs himself to take the important kick or break the lines, but sometimes it can lead to a mistake such as getting caught or dropping the ball after rushing to bounce it. While his confidence and willingness to back himself is impressive, it is an area that could be worked on to ensure he knows his limitations.

Secondly, his hands in close is just a little tweak I would like to see in the future. In space he will often handball looking for the one-two in order to use his run and carry, but when on the inside, sometimes he will handball and it is more shovelled out to space rather than necessarily to a teammate. Again it is not all that often given his high efficiency rate, but he is ranked in the top five National Combine invitees for ineffective handballs. As a whole I cannot see it greatly impacting him at AFL level as he will likely be a small forward, but just a way to develop should he get midfield minutes.

DRAFT PROJECTION: 3rd round onwards

SUMMARY

Brent Daniels is breaking the trend for modern prototype players, standing at just 171cm. While not many players get given an opportunity at that height, Daniels is a classy player with some inside grunt which is attractive to AFL recruiters. More impressively he has elite speed and clean hands bursting through traffic which can often break a game open. If he can learn to temper his runs so he does not lose possession every now and again, then he will be a very damaging player in the future. He adds pressure and X-factor to a forward 50 and expect his name to pop up somewhere later on in the draft.

*Sounds a bit more damaging than Blair
 
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Quicky said:
Both Cerra and Claravino lack foot speed. Cerra is in a position we are loaded with. I'd be pretty underwhelmed with that tbh.
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That is a worry but they say Cerra is the one that can bring it into the forwardline better than any player in the draft so I'm happy to look for some speed to put around him... Clavarino is a fantastic intercept player by all accounts in much the same way as Jake Lever who doesn't have that explosive speed off the mark either
 
cityslick1 said:
Still think it could be smokescreen to force Freo's hand... leaving Fogarty or Stephenson for us
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How does rumours of us taking him at 6 force Freo's hand? They either take him at 5 or don't get him. Their next pick is in the 40s. Regardless of whether we select him at 6, he's not going to last to their next pick.

The only team we could possibly play funny buggers with is Carlton who have picks 3 and 10. There is the outside chance that the highest on their draft board is someone who may slip to 10. Thus we could hoodwink them into not taking their highest at 3 because they believe that the the other clubs will let him slide to 10. Someone like Fogarty or Brander. But it's pretty unlikely.
 
If Darcy’s playing back, then l hope it’s Fogarty.
 
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DraftBalta said:
That is a worry but they say Cerra is the one that can bring it into the forwardline better than any player in the draft so I'm happy to look for some speed to put around him... Clavarino is a fantastic intercept player by all accounts in much the same way as Jake Lever who doesn't have that explosive speed off the mark either
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Yeah I get that with Cerra. I could accept it but I don't think it's ideal given our mix. Claravino's lack of leg speed really limits him to an intercept player. He won't be a lock down back unless he gets as good at body contact and wrestling as Dunn which is a long shot. I'm not big on him for that reason.

This is the mock that is winning it for us:
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/eagles-board-2017-mock-draft.1180562/page-9#post-53236794

Coffield and Petty. Hell yeah! It'll be interesting to see what we can get for our 50's picks.
 
sr36 said:
How does rumours of us taking him at 6 force Freo's hand? They either take him at 5 or don't get him. Their next pick is in the 40s. Regardless of whether we select him at 6, he's not going to last to their next pick.

The only team we could possibly play funny buggers with is Carlton who have picks 3 and 10. There is the outside chance that the highest on their draft board is someone who may slip to 10. Thus we could hoodwink them into not taking their highest at 3 because they believe that the the other clubs will let him slide to 10. Someone like Fogarty or Brander. But it's pretty unlikely.
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its just a theory & all about perceived pick value, especially with the 5 - 10 range being such a lottery. Just like Collingwood being heavily into Bontempelli at pick 6 a few years back, which likely sured up his value as a top 5 prospect & increased confidence in his potential and the 'we can't let this player get to another club' factor in the eyes of other recruiters. So the Bulldogs are maybe forced to look at him closer, get in first & heck up our plans... which I'm sure opposition recruiters also like to do.

If Freo were having doubts that Naughton was worth a pick 5, knowing or thinking that the next club to have a pick was jumping out of their skin to snap him up could sway them towards him and away from Fogarty or Jaidyn or Cerra.

Or maybe I'm putting my own interests first, and the club do really rate Naughton as the prototypical defender to partner Moore and Mclarty going forward... lots more theorising & ducks and drakes to come I feel.
 
Quicky said:
Yeah I get that with Cerra. I could accept it but I don't think it's ideal given our mix. Claravino's lack of leg speed really limits him to an intercept player. He won't be a lock down back unless he gets as good at body contact and wrestling as Dunn which is a long shot. I'm not big on him for that reason.

This is the mock that is winning it for us:
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/eagles-board-2017-mock-draft.1180562/page-9#post-53236794

Coffield and Petty. Hell yeah! It'll be interesting to see what we can get for our 50's picks.
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That would be nice, I think it's Coffee if one of the top 5 mids don't drop, and probably only Cerra and Stephenson are a chance of doing that but evidently all 5 are so good it would be hard to pass

I keep hearing Petty is zero chance of lasting that long but Grundy fell 15 spots so it can happen
 

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DraftBalta said:
There was a massive whisper we were into him before all the Coffield stuff started... and just on Phillips I've been surprised that a few people have told me he will turn out elite, not sure what they are seeing but you can't reason with them they are so sure
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Were you talking to his mum and dad?
 
DraftBalta said:
There was a massive whisper we were into him before all the Coffield stuff started... and just on Phillips I've been surprised that a few people have told me he will turn out elite, not sure what they are seeing but you can't reason with them they are so sure
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I'm on the bandwagon. Reckon he will be a star.
 

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cityslick1 said:
Still think it could be smokescreen to force Freo's hand... leaving Fogarty or Stephenson for us
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I don’t think that stands up logically. Whether Collingwood show interest at #6 or not, Freo must know that if they pass on Naughton at #2 and #5, he won’t be there by their next pick. Our “smokescreen” is entirely irrelevant.

EDIT: Oops, saw replies later. Well consider me +1.
 
cityslick1 said:
its just a theory & all about perceived pick value, especially with the 5 - 10 range being such a lottery. Just like Collingwood being heavily into Bontempelli at pick 6 a few years back, which likely sured up his value as a top 5 prospect & increased confidence in his potential and the 'we can't let this player get to another club' factor in the eyes of other recruiters. So the Bulldogs are maybe forced to look at him closer, get in first & glory be up our plans... which I'm sure opposition recruiters also like to do.

If Freo were having doubts that Naughton was worth a pick 5, knowing or thinking that the next club to have a pick was jumping out of their skin to snap him up could sway them towards him and away from Fogarty or Jaidyn or Cerra.

Or maybe I'm putting my own interests first, and the club do really rate Naughton as the prototypical defender to partner Moore and Mclarty going forward... lots more theorising & ducks and drakes to come I feel.
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I’m not sure why we keep bringing this up. Clubs with such a high pick don’t pick a player because they have heard Collingwood are interested in them. From what I’ve read, the Dogs were tracking Bont 2 years prior. Boots coach at the time even said that they had shown the most interest in him.

Saying the Pies rate Naughton at 6 will have Freo re-think his value and draft him earlier makes no sense at all. They probably rate their recruiters higher than the Pies anyway. They’ll have their needs to recruit either best available or the player to fill that need. Naughton fills that need down back for them for the future, but he may not be best available at 5.
 
Unknown Identity said:
“I’d really like to go to a club like Collingwood or anywhere where there could be some opportunity to play some senior footy,” Brander told Foxfooty.com.au.
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I can’t decide if I like that comment or not.

It should be a deserved slap in the face to the club for allowing their KPP stocks to slip to the level that an ok jnr KPP prospect thinks he’s a shot at senior footy straight away.

It also suggests the kids got some tickets on himself. Counter to that I like kids that have some confidence in their own ability and we need more guys like that.

At the end of the day the overriding feeling is one of pipe down chachi we don’t want you!
 
The Royal Sampler you raised a question earlier of Bonar’s confidence in changing direction and whilst I don’t consider it your typical real world scenario his agility testing suggest he either has full confidence in his knee or he will be an absolute freak show in changing direction once he does. He finished equal 10th at the combine.
 
Scodog10 said:
I can’t decide if I like that comment or not.

It should be a deserved slap in the face to the club for allowing their KPP stocks to slip to the level that an ok jnr KPP prospect thinks he’s a shot at senior footy straight away.

It also suggests the kids got some tickets on himself. Counter to that I like kids that have some confidence in their own ability and we need more guys like that.

At the end of the day the overriding feeling is one of pipe down chachi we don’t want you!
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I think it suggests we should have looked at him for our list manager position!

Scodog10 said:
The Royal Sampler you raised a question earlier of Bonar’s confidence in changing direction and whilst I don’t consider it your typical real world scenario his agility testing suggest he either has full confidence in his knee or he will be an absolute freak show in changing direction once he does. He finished equal 10th at the combine.
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Good signs indeed. Obviously real-game scenarios are another step, but this bodes very well for him.
 

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