Game Day 2017 National Draft

Discussion in 'Collingwood' started by Frank Gallagher, Jul 3, 2017.

Put it out there
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The OP for our new picks must be accurate and informative. Who should do it?

Poll closed Nov 26, 2017.
  1. Anyone

    39 vote(s)
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  2. Wait for TD

    71 vote(s)
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  1. JustInsideFifty

    JustInsideFifty All Australian

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    Not sure if you saw this one unplugged?

    The individual orders used to get the one above are also available:
    http://footyprophet.com/big-draft-board/

    Like Mongo, NFI about how much these guys would know though...
     
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  2. Lefthanded

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    I'd also be looking at which prospective draftees have played some senior footy as either Hine or Rendell seems to value this. Shaz & Aish are two that come to mind that had this before being drafted.
     
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    Hmm I try to stick to the ones we know around these parts! But interesting anyway.
     
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  4. Apex36

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    Fogarty ticks that box. Not sure which Vic prospects have played 23rd man in the VFL but I’d imagine there would be quite a few.
     
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  5. Saintly Viewed

    Saintly Viewed Carbine 1890

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    That should almost be the signal

    "Thanks for coming...."
     
  6. Saintly Viewed

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    Just a note, Bontempelli was our pick preference but Footscray (or whatever they call themselves these days) pounced before us.
    Was reported quite early doors pre draft.

    And I think Bont would have been handy :) even if it meant I missed out on my great love the Berger boy.
     
  7. Saintly Viewed

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    Why not both.

    Be a very handy draft

    Balta, Coffield.

    How we manage that, hmmmm, I will leave that to the pre manoeuvres
     
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  8. Ricky90

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    Something's not right here, Bonar records 89cm standing vertical but less than that for running vertical? He definitely tested though, there's a video on the web page if him doing it.
     
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    Yeah that would be ideal
     
  10. Lefthanded

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    Anyone know if Brent Daniels is related to Dogs Caleb? Brent tested well in sprint, agility and yo-yo but is only 172cm so if has similar pedigree to Caleb would be worth a later pick.
     
  11. campbell023

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    Nah he’s Victorian, Caleb is from SA.
     
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  12. Baird

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    Different surnames
     
  13. Lefthanded

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    daniels vs daniel, my bad
     
  14. sr36

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    These two may have made them re-evaluate their methodology.
     
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    Trade down and hope to get two of Bonar, Balta, Naughton and Petty. In that order.
     
  16. Schraderbrau

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    Why is O'Brien so low on everyone's rankings - about the best kick in the draft, good pace and good tank. Seems value if he's still there at 20 in this draft.
     
  17. Ricky90

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    Any chance we rate Ballenden? KPD with elite kicking.

    Been working in Brisbane's academy which has produced some good players. Won the kicking test designed by Bucks with a perfect score.

    Seems like just what we need. Any chance we take him at 6 and if so would the Lions match?
     
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    There's certainly a chance we rate him, but the Lions won't let him slip through. If we keep 6 I wouldn't object to bidding on him.
     
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    Simple answer = Can't handle a tag, or use said kick under pressure.

    I love what he CAN do, but it's what he CAN'T do under pressure/when the game situation changes that concerns me (and probably recruiters). Has a weapon of a left foot though.
     
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    As someone said, different surnames, so no.

    But it's kind of funny because if you look at Daniels, he looks like a mini Dane Swan in the way that he seems unfit just standing there (kind of a tanker) but when he goes, he goes and you're like what the hell? Reminded me so much of Swanny in the way he bursts away and you're like, how does he move so quick with a body like that? He's not unfit, just looks it.
     
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    Was rated higher going into this year but had a knee injury that kept him out for a little while and his form never really went forward from last year. He had a good All Australian game to show he’s up there but probably goes mid first round imo. Maybe a little too outside is my query.
     
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    Oscar Allen looked good in the early game prior to the GF...only concern is his from WA.
     
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    I'd normally want to hold on to pick 6 but if we had players in mind at 12 & 18 I'd consider the trade with Brisbane. We didn't have a 1st last year and don't have a 2nd so far then it might make sense to grab a mid and late 1st this year.


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    Thanks. That he had an injury excuse seems to be an argument that he is being undervalued atm imo.

    Pure outside players seem to be becoming very underrated. Contested ball winning ability isn't the be all end all imo, we have about the best collection of contested ball winning mids in the AFL and it hasn't done that much for us. What we desperately need are a few players who can get on then end of handballs and hit targets. We have no-one who can do this other than Wells and an inconsistent WHE who needs to find at least 5 more disposals per game to be considered quality. I'd endorse trading down if it meant we could get O'Brien + another mid teens pick, especially considering there seems to be no guaranteed quality in this draft outside the top 2-3. Could also put us in a position to get Balta although I'm still skeptical he makes it outside the top 10 despite what everyone lists on their draft boards.
     
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  25. Tradethefarm

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    The only way I can see is to send either Reid to Sydney for pick 31 or Fasolo to WC for pick 32, then package one of those with our pick 37 and try find someone in the teens that will do the deal for 2 x 30's picks. Pick 32 and pick 37 = pick 16 under the current points system and in 70% of Phantoms that would get you Balta, Allen or a Naughton.
     
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