2017 Non Crows AFL Discussion Thread part 2

[Jeffcrowe]

How many of those votes were from the opposition coach?

Hinkley has an irrational love for him. Even on the Port board they're questioning his place in the side.

Ps how do you know which coach ?

 

[Paladin]

Go look at coaches votes and how many times he's in top 6-8 on ground

Think you need to watch closer

He only has 4 votes all year. All from Ken no doubt. Think you are way offtrack with this one.

 

[Twist_of_Lemon]

What are everyone's thoughts on footy journalist Sam Maclure? Seems like he has a massive ego. I suppose that's how you work your way up at such a young age in a competitive industry.

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Has a face like one of those Lollipop Guild munchkins.

 

[jackster83]

Ps how do you know which coach ?

Why do you even care so much?

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Why do you even care so much?

He's a good modern day player and i dislike ignorance

 

[Jeffcrowe]

He only has 4 votes all year. All from Ken no doubt. Think you are way offtrack with this one.

in how many games ?

 

[Paladin]

in how many games ?

Well he missed R1! Maybe 11 then i dunno. He hasnt cleaned up thats for sure.

He is averaging 11 touches and a goal this year. Which was boosted massively by a flat tracking effort v Brisbane at the Gabba. It might be an insult to petrenko to compare them. Are you related to him?

 

[matty p]

He's a good modern day player and i dislike ignorance

From a statistical point of view he's a poor player. On the eye test, offensively with the ball he's a disaster. So the only thing left is the non-statistical defensive pressure acts. Instead of lambasting anyone who doesn't rate him, how about you actually trot out some evidence (clips of his pressure leading to Port goals, advanced defensive numbers etc) instead of just lauding his effect on the game without any basis.

 

[jackster83]

He's a good modern day player and i dislike ignorance

I loved Petrenko as a player, but he just wasn't damaging enough with ball in hand. I think modern players need to have more strings to their bow than just being great at applying pressure - at least reach a Puopolo level of output.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

From a statistical point of view he's a poor player. On the eye test, offensively with the ball he's a disaster. So the only thing left is the non-statistical defensive pressure acts. Instead of lambasting anyone who doesn't rate him, how about you actually trot out some evidence (clips of his pressure leading to Port goals, advanced defensive numbers etc) instead of just lauding his effect on the game without any basis.

Righto - how many coaches votes has knight had and do you rate him ?

How many games has Cameron polled in compared to Impey ( and don't worry I think Cameron is >> Impey )

Impey v Petrenko . Stop it

Ask any commentator, coach , recruiter whether they think Impey is a bust

But otherwise just take bigfooty as your evidence

 

[matty p]

Righto - how many coaches votes has knight had and do you rate him ?

How many games has Cameron polled in compared to Impey ( and don't worry I think Cameron is >> Impey )

Impey v Petrenko . Stop it

Ask any commentator, coach , recruiter whether they think Impey is a bust

But otherwise just take bigfooty as your evidence

I'm not talking about Knight, Charlie or Petrenko.

If you're going to criticise anyone who doesn't rate Impey, back it up with advanced evidence rather than general statements about his effect on the team, the fact that he's received 4 coaches votes this year, and that commentators who hardly watch any Port games all year think he's playing well (an opinion which they only base on basic stats and how eye catching he's been in the particular match they're commentating).

So do you have actual examples of his positive effect on the team's results? Clips of his net-positive defense? I'm not here to have an argument, just wondering whether you have anything that shows this? I haven't seen any examples myself.

 

[Samcro24]

Suggests to review coaches votes to see how the coaches rate Impey.

Discredits coaches votes as a measure of talent.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

I'm not talking about Knight, Charlie or Petrenko.

If you're going to criticise anyone who doesn't rate Impey, back it up with advanced evidence rather than general statements about his effect on the team, the fact that he's received 4 coaches votes this year, and that commentators who hardly watch any Port games all year think he's playing well (an opinion which they only base on basic stats and how eye catching he's been in the particular match they're commentating).

So do you have actual examples of his positive effect on the team's results? Clips of his net-positive defense? I'm not here to have an argument, just wondering whether you have anything that shows this? I haven't seen any examples myself.

As Paul Keating said ' I'd rather do you slowly ' . I don't need to go find clips for you because you and I can cherry pick anyway so let's just see what he ends up as

And don't tell me he's improved when he starts impressing you . Let's # bookmark it now

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Suggests to review coaches votes to see how the coaches rate Impey.

Discredits coaches votes as a measure of talent.

???

 

[Samcro24]

People are silly to compare impey to Petrenko.

It's unfair on Petrenko

 

[Jeffcrowe]

People are silly to compare impey to Petrenko.

It's unfair on Petrenko

Righto ... if you think Impey is a dud fair enough let's see what happens

I hope you're good at judging young players

 

[Samcro24]

Righto ... if you think Impey is a dud fair enough let's see what happens

I hope you're good at judging young players

I could be the worst in the world, no skin off anyone's nose I would have thought.

 

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