Competitions 2017 Phantom Draft

[Jeremias]

We're finally ready to go. Too much clutter in the other thread so we'll start afresh here.

Adelaide : Foucault1989
Brisbane : Coona Blues
Carlton : Jeremias
Collingwood : BlueTongue
Essendon : Wickzki
Fremantle : esoteric
Geelong : TerryWallet
Gold Coast : Arr0w
GWS : Soapy V
Hawthorn : HARKER
Kangaroos : Neadsy83
Melbourne : Jimmae
Port Adelaide : Blue and Silver
Richmond : gandaal
St Kilda : ScottoP
Sydney : Matty411
West Coast: Blugazi
Western Bulldogs : Pablito

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With a week and a half until draft night we ideally want to get through this as quickly as possible. I'm not going to implement a time limit straight away, but I'll have to if things are just taking too long. If we go down that path we'll use one of the phantoms on the D&T board and pick the highest remaining player.

If you know you have a selection coming up and won't be around to take it...please send a list of preferences to someone who can take it for you. For that I would recommend either myself, or if you don't trust me, one of our other mods - ODN, Aphrodite or Chism.

Once you have taken your pick please tag the next person in line to notify them that it is their pick. Hopefully that speeds everything up.

If you wish to bid on a F/S or Academy player you will need to give the drafter for that club the opportunity to match. Calculating the shifting draft order isn't my strong-point. Jimmae are you all over that stuff?

I'll try to keep the draft order up to date here in the OP. Thanks to Jimmae for the updated order.

1 - Brisbane - Cameron Rayner
2 - Fremantle - Luke Davies-Uniacke
3 - Carlton - Paddy Dow
4 - North Melbourne - Adam Cerra
5 - Fremantle - Jack Higgins
6 - Collingwood - Jaidyn Stephenson
7 - St Kilda - Jarrod Brander
8 - St Kilda - Hunter Clark
9 - Western Bulldogs - Andrew Brayshaw
10 - Carlton - Nick Coffield
11 - GWS - Darcy Fogarty
12 - Adelaide - Aaron Naughton
13 - West Coast - Aidan Bonar
14 - Sydney - Lochie O'Brien
15 - Brisbane - Lachlan Fogarty
16 - Western Bulldogs - Charlie Constable
17 - Richmond - Ed Richards
18 - Brisbane - Nathan Murphy
19 - Gold Coast - Zac Bailey
20 - Richmond - Oscar Allen
21 - Richmond - Patrick Naish
22 - West Coast - Tim Kelly
23 - Geelong - Sam Taylor
24 - North Melbourne - Charlie Spargo
25 - Geelong - Sam Hayes
26 - West Coast - Matthew Ling
27 - GWS - Noah Balta
28 - GWS - Ryley Stoddart
29 - Brisbane - Connor Ballenden
30 - Melbourne - Jordan Houlahan
31 - Carlton - Jackson Ross
32 - Melbourne - Jack Petrucelle
33 - West Coast - James Worpel
34 - Sydney - Oscar Clavarino
35 - St Kilda - Joel Garner
36 - Geelong - Tom McCartin
37 - GWS - Nick Shipley
38 - Melbourne - Brandon Starcevich
39 - West Coast - Dylan Moore
40 - Gold Coast - Brayden Crossley
41 - Collingwood - Tom De Koning
42 - Adelaide - Gryan Miers
43 - Fremantle - Liam Ryan
44 - Hawthorn - Noah Answerth
45 - St Kilda - Jackson Edwards
46 - Port Adelaide - Callan England
47 - Brisbane - Adam Sambono
48 - Melbourne - Jake Patmore
49 - Essendon - Charlie Ballard
50 - GWS - Jack Powell
51 - Port Adelaide - Stefan Giro
52 - Gold Coast - Kane Farrell
53 - Sydney - Toby Wooller
54 - Brisbane - Hamish Brayshaw
55 - Richmond - Callum Coleman-Jones
56 - Gold Coast - Jordan Johnston
57 - Richmond - Andrew McPherson
58 - Collingwood - Harrison Petty
59 - Geelong - Brent Daniels
60 - Gold Coast - Jack Roughsedge
61 - Port Adelaide - Jordan Butts
62 - Fremantle - Will Walker
63 - Collingwood - Tyler Brown
64 - Port Adelaide - Ben Paton
65 - Port Adelaide - Oskar Baker
66 - North Melbourne -
67 - Fremantle -
68 - Essendon -
69 - Hawthorn -
70 - West Coast -
71 - Fremantle -
72 - Geelong -
73 - Carlton -
74 - Hawthorn -
75 - Gold Coast -
76 - Adelaide -
77 - North Melbourne -
78 - Fremantle -
79 - Hawthorn -
80 - Western Bulldogs -
81 - Fremantle -
82 - Essendon -
83 - Port Adelaide -
84 - West Coast -
85 - Sydney -
86 - GWS -
87 - Geelong -
88 - North Melbourne -
89 - Fremantle -
90 - Hawthorn -
91 - Sydney -
92 - Adelaide -
93 - Carlton -
94 - Sydney -
95 - Carlton -

Adelaide
Aaron Naughton
Gryan Miers

Brisbane
Cameron Rayner
Lachlan Fogarty
Nathan Murphy
Connor Ballenden
Adam Sambono
Hamish Brayshaw

Carlton
Paddy Dow
Nick Coffield
Jackson Ross

Collingwood
Jaidyn Stephenson
Tom De Koning
Harrison Petty
Tyler Brown

Essendon
Charlie Ballard

Fremantle
Luke Davies-Uniacke
Jack Higgins
Liam Ryan
Will Walker

GC
Zac Bailey
Brayden Crossley
Kane Farrell
Jordan Johnston
Jack Roughsedge

Geelong
Sam Taylor
Sam Hayes
Tom McCartin
Brent Daniels

GWS
Darcy Fogarty
Noah Balta
Ryley Stoddart
Nick Shipley
Jack Powell

Hawthorn
Noah Answerth

Kangaroos
Adam Cerra
Charlie Spargo

Melbourne
Jordan Houlahan
Jack Petruccelle
Brandon Starcevich
Jake Patmore

Port Adelaide
Callan England
Stefan Giro
Jordan Butts
Ben Paton
Oskar Baker

Richmond
Ed Richaards
Oscar Allen
Patrick Naish
Callum Coleman-Jones
Andrew McPherson

St Kilda
Jarrod Brander
Hunter Clark
Joel Garner
Jackson Edwards

Sydney
Lochie O'Brien
Oscar Clavarino
Toby Wooller

West Coast
Aiden Bonar
Tim Kelly
Matthew Ling
James Worpel
Dylan Moore

Western Bulldogs
Andrew Brayshaw
Charlie Constable

 

[Jeremias]

Pick 1 belongs to Brisbane - Coona Blues, you're up!

 

[Coona Blues]

Ah, let's go.
#1 Brisbane Lions - Cameron Rayner

A real opinion divided, the "smarties" are divided between Rayner, LDU, Brayshaw and Dow for this one so going with the boom player.
Universally regarded as the most talented and influential player leading up to the draft. So many questions over his "tank", will he be a
genuine midfielder?

Looking at the new Brisbane with Fagan and Hodge, who would they want? Hawks have run deep with solid citizens, but embraced the
Buddy and Cyril X factor types. They have a few solid older mids and a group of youngsters transitioning in to the engine room. Will
not be a bust for them if Rayner stays an X factor forward only. Think they are up for the gamble. Disregarded "go home factor" for this exercise.

Plus I want to see how the mids pan out with him off the board.

esoteric you are up for Freo.

 

[esoteric]

Pick 2 - Fremantle - Luke Davies-Uniacke

I am taking my Fremantle duties very seriously. Have analysed their list pretty closely, and have read through the entire draft thread on their board, to get a sense of what their fans are after. Like the Blues, Freo's most pressing need is for quality mids, followed by forwards. Had Rayner been available, I would have taken him here, but with some reluctance. I believe LDU to be the best midfielder in this draft. He was the player I wanted for Freo at this pick, and I think it will happen this way on draft night.

Jeremias we are all looking at you with bated breath.

 

[Jimmae]

Full 2017 Phantom Tracker

ferrisb, I remembered your effort a while back and had a go at cranking out my own. Pretty happy with the outcome.

 

[Matty411]

Nice work Jimmae. Pabs is doing Doggies though

 

[Jimmae]

Jeremias a couple of adjustments: Sydney have a pick in the 7th round (after Carlton), and Port (#89 in your order) and GWS (#93) have shed their 6th round picks, which should take your tally to 95 live picks.

Nice work Jimmae. Pabs is doing Doggies though

Ta for pointing that out, it was resolving your username as an approximate match.

 

[Matty411]

Do Sydney have to use all 6 picks Jeremias or can they be passed on? Surely they won't go up to 90s (even if they become 70s).

 

[Jimmae]

Do Sydney have to use all 6 picks Jeremias or can they be passed on? Surely they won't go up to 90s (even if they become 70s).

Sydney's expected to pass on the last two, but you can pass anytime you want. See how it falls!

 

[thylacine60]

too late to join in?

 

[ferrisb]

Thy, I would suggest you sign up for next year's. It would give you a reasonable amount of time to prepare.

Although a little marsupial told me you're probably going to be busy if it's next year though....

 

[thylacine60]

cheers, matty b..........

 

[JustaBattler]

Full 2017 Phantom Tracker

ferrisb, I remembered your effort a while back and had a go at cranking out my own. Pretty happy with the outcome.

nice work Jimmae

 

[ferrisb]

cheers, matty b..........

No problem, Thylacinus cynocephalus double Charlie.........

 

[thylacine60]

please don't use my maiden name.............

 

[Jeremias]

Pick 3 - Carlton - Paddy Dow

Will write more tomorrow but with Rayner off the board it came down to Dow vs Cerra. And I've flipped between the two a few times here.

Dow I've been big on and it seems he's still a chance to go to the Lions at 1 but talk suggests were into Cerra here and the reality is his game may be more suited to what we're looking for. Dow looks a quality prospect but the question is can he coexist with Cripps and Kennedy in the same midfield?

Ultimately I'm not sure of the answer to that question but Cerra seems more of a bolter with Dow having been very highly rated throughout. So I'll go with what would probably be considered the safer option here.

Over to Neadsy83

 

[ParapMarkets]

Pick 3 - Carlton - Paddy Dow

Will write more tomorrow but with Rayner off the board it came down to Dow vs Cerra. And I've flipped between the two a few times here.

Dow I've been big on and it seems he's still a chance to go to the Lions at 1 but talk suggests were into Cerra here and the reality is his game may be more suited to what we're looking for. Dow looks a quality prospect but the question is can he coexist with Cripps and Kennedy in the same midfield?

Ultimately I'm not sure of the answer to that question but Cerra seems more of a bolter with Dow having been very highly rated throughout. So I'll go with what would probably be considered the safer option here.

Over to Neadsy83

Interesting take. I have been questioning whether Cerra could coexist with Cripps and Kennedy (3 bigger bodies without pace) as well as the 2 Curnow’s, whereas Dow would compliment nicely. You have the complete opposite view.

 

[Neadsy83]

Pick 4 - Adam Cerra

Huge fan of this kid, the only thing he lacks is explosive pace over 5-10m. Will play 200 games imo. Safe bet for North and also best available.

I'm not buying the talk they are into Fogarty at this selection. I would of preferred Dow and I think he is probably their first choice. esoteric you're on the clock!

 

[esoteric]

Pick 5 - Fremantle - Jack Higgins

I'm going off piste.

Freo fans would have me take D Fogarty or Brayshaw I think. Local boy Naughton will be a ripper, but is not what Freo needs. Plenty of other quality kids come into consideration here.

I am going for a lad that I believe, in ten years time when we "Re-do the 2017 draft", will be in the top 3. I don't think he will go this high on draft night. I also don't think he will last until Carlton's Pick 10. I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up a Saint.

Has been called the most professional, best prepared, most tenacious, most dedicated young man in the draft.

No real knocks on him apart from pace. Elite kick, elite decision maker, excellent overhead.

Could he be the next Brent Harvey? I don't think that comparison is too far off the mark.

Delusional reach or inspired selection over more fancied alternatives? Time will tell.

Over to you BlueTongue

 

[Matty411]

Dear Lord... esoteric has gone off script *shuffles notes* I can't... I don... wh....

In all seriousness, love the pick mate - definitely against the grain and throws up a bit of a spanner of options for the next few picks.

 

[Arr0w]

Pick 5 - Fremantle - Jack Higgins

I'm going off piste.

Freo fans would have me take D Fogarty or Brayshaw I think. Local boy Naughton will be a ripper, but is not what Freo needs. Plenty of other quality kids come into consideration here.

I am going for a lad that I believe, in ten years time when we "Re-do the 2017 draft", will be in the top 3. I don't think he will go this high on draft night. I also don't think he will last until Carlton's Pick 10. I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up a Saint.

Has been called the most professional, best prepared, most tenacious, most dedicated young man in the draft.

No real knocks on him apart from pace. Elite kick, elite decision maker, excellent overhead.

Could he be the next Brent Harvey? I don't think that comparison is too far off the mark.

Delusional reach or inspired selection over more fancied alternatives? Time will tell.

Over to you BlueTongue

Ballsy, I like it

 

[TerryWallet]

Pick 5 - Fremantle - Jack Higgins

I'm going off piste.

Freo fans would have me take D Fogarty or Brayshaw I think. Local boy Naughton will be a ripper, but is not what Freo needs. Plenty of other quality kids come into consideration here.

I am going for a lad that I believe, in ten years time when we "Re-do the 2017 draft", will be in the top 3. I don't think he will go this high on draft night. I also don't think he will last until Carlton's Pick 10. I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up a Saint.

Has been called the most professional, best prepared, most tenacious, most dedicated young man in the draft.

No real knocks on him apart from pace. Elite kick, elite decision maker, excellent overhead.

Could he be the next Brent Harvey? I don't think that comparison is too far off the mark.

Delusional reach or inspired selection over more fancied alternatives? Time will tell.

Over to you BlueTongue

Great write up esoteric. I hate the pick personally but i like that you made it on your thoughts. And you may just be right. That's the nature of drafts.

 

[Jimmae]

Pick 5 - Fremantle - Jack Higgins

I'm going off piste.

Freo fans would have me take D Fogarty or Brayshaw I think. Local boy Naughton will be a ripper, but is not what Freo needs. Plenty of other quality kids come into consideration here.

I am going for a lad that I believe, in ten years time when we "Re-do the 2017 draft", will be in the top 3. I don't think he will go this high on draft night. I also don't think he will last until Carlton's Pick 10. I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up a Saint.

Has been called the most professional, best prepared, most tenacious, most dedicated young man in the draft.

No real knocks on him apart from pace. Elite kick, elite decision maker, excellent overhead.

Could he be the next Brent Harvey? I don't think that comparison is too far off the mark.

Delusional reach or inspired selection over more fancied alternatives? Time will tell.

Over to you BlueTongue

Definitely living up your username.

 

[Soapy V]

Pick 5 - Fremantle - Jack Higgins

I'm going off piste.

Freo fans would have me take D Fogarty or Brayshaw I think. Local boy Naughton will be a ripper, but is not what Freo needs. Plenty of other quality kids come into consideration here.

I am going for a lad that I believe, in ten years time when we "Re-do the 2017 draft", will be in the top 3. I don't think he will go this high on draft night. I also don't think he will last until Carlton's Pick 10. I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up a Saint.

Has been called the most professional, best prepared, most tenacious, most dedicated young man in the draft.

No real knocks on him apart from pace. Elite kick, elite decision maker, excellent overhead.

Could he be the next Brent Harvey? I don't think that comparison is too far off the mark.

Delusional reach or inspired selection over more fancied alternatives? Time will tell.

Over to you BlueTongue

WOW. I was going to say BIG Call but maybe I should be SMALL

 

[Jimmae]

2nd call for BlueTongue