Prediction 2017 Prediction Thread

[Waspy79]

1. GWS
2. Sydney
3. West Coast
4. Western Bulldogs
5. Melbourne
6. Hawthorn
7. Adelaide
8. Saint Kilda

9. Geelong
10. Richmond
11. Fremantle
12. Collingwood
13. Port Adelaide
14. Gold Coast
15. North Melbourne
16. Essendon
17. Carlton
18. Brisbane

2017 Brownlow Medallist: Sam Mitchell
2017 Coleman Medallist: JJK
2017 Grand Finalists/Premier: GWS v West Coast [GWS win]
2017 PAFC AA squad members: Ryder, Wingard
2017 PAFC B&F: Ryder
2017 PAFC Most Improved: Polec

 

[yepits2020]

Champion Data thinks Port will improve

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/cou...m/news-story/1c9d3e4c2c1b1088f34d795b4cde517f

I presume that, since Ryder did not play a game last year, he is not included in the best 22. If this is the case, we may do better than I expect. Monfries the same.

 

[TheBeardAmigos]

Ladder

1. GWS
2. Sydney
3. Hawthorn
4. Melbourne
5. St Kilda
6. West Coast
7. Geelong
8. Port Adelaide

9. Adelaide
10. Western Bulldogs
11. Richmond
12. Collingwood
13. Essendon
14. North Melbourne
15. Fremantle
16. Gold Coast
17. Carlton
18. Brisbane

2017 Brownlow Medalist: Patrick Dangerfield - Smokey: Nick Riewoldt
2017 Coleman Medalist: Josh Kennedy - Smokey: Tim Membrey
2017 Grand Finalists/Premiers: GWS v Sydney - Draw/Sydney win on replay with Buddy slotting one from 65m out on the siren
2017 Norm Smith: Josh P Kennedy (30+ and 2 goals) will break record for most tackles in a GF also
PAFC AA Squad Members: Wines, Ryder, Hombsch, Gray
PAFC BF: Jackson Trengove
PAFC Most Improved: Dan Houston

 

[Byrons Firen]

Champion Data thinks Port will improve

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/cou...m/news-story/1c9d3e4c2c1b1088f34d795b4cde517f

and they're right.

 

[JAlexG]

I'm so bad at tipping. I had us betwen 8th-12th but because I am so bad at said tipping, we will finish top 4.
No dramas. Easy peasy.

 

[philreich]

Champion Data thinks Port will improve

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/cou...m/news-story/1c9d3e4c2c1b1088f34d795b4cde517f

So in this scenario, we'd play Geelong in a home elimination final. I'd be happy with that: we owe those campaigners some September agony.

 

[ozph1870]

1 ports
2-17 not ports

Brownlow b jacobs
All Australians, all ports zero campaigners
Leading goalkicker eddy
B&f k cornes
Gf ports v not ports ports win. By 118

 

[ozph1870]

Top 8 gws Sydney wce st Kilda Hawthorn wb gold coast port

Bottom 8 adelaide geelong freo Richmond Melbourne Collingwood north Brisbane carlton

Gf gws v wce, gws win (one of the best seasons by any team ever)

Brownlow fyfe

Coleman Kennedy (83)

Port AA. Hombsch gray Wingard (wines squad of 40)

Port leading goalkicker Wingard 56

B&f top 3 gray wines hombsch

Most improved, Amon

 

[Schulzenfest]

1 ports
2-17 not ports

Brownlow b jacobs
All Australians, all ports zero campaigners
Leading goalkicker eddy
B&f k cornes
Gf ports v not ports ports win. By 118

Haha, despite knowing how illogical it would be, I would actually be so annoyed if we won a GF by 118 points.

 

[SureBuddy]

1. GWS
2. WC
3. Sydney
4. Port
5. WB
6. Hawthorn
7. St Kilda
8. Adelaide

9. Geelong
10. Melbourne
11. GC
12. Freo
13. Essendon
14. Richmond
15. Collingwood
16. North
17. Carlton
18. Brisbane

Brownlow: Fyfe
Coleman: Josh Kennedy
Rising Star: SPP
Grand Final: GWS vs WC (WC win)
Port AA: Gray, Wingard and Ryder

 

[Scholz Supremacy]

Most on SEN yesterday had us finishing bottom 4.

 

[SureBuddy]

Most on SEN yesterday had us finishing bottom 4.

I really don't understand this. Even last year we weren't amazing, but we weren't utter shit. We only just missed the 8 again, what makes us drop further? Is it the return of Ryder and actually having a ruckman? All the injured players we have returning from last year? Does this somehow make us worse? Plus our really impressive draft picks and rookies.

Most games we had at least 6-8 players who would be considered out of our best 22 playing. We got rid of some deadwood like Mitchell, Butcher and O'Shea. Now we actually look to have some really good depth.

There is absolutely nothing we did to make our list worse that would have us dropping 4-5 spots to the bottom 4. In fact with our returning fit players and recruits, you would think the opposite could easily occur.

I swear these so called professional's have no idea at all and don't actually do their research on teams that aren't in Melbourne or aren't a premiership threat in their eyes. We will not finish bottom 4, I can guarantee that. I will put my house on it.

 

[Lagooner]

Most on SEN yesterday had us finishing bottom 4.

I think they're in for a rude shock.

 

[Arsene Wenger]

Sydney
GWS
Adelaide
West coast
Bulldogs
Geelong
Hawks
St Kilda
---------------
Gold Coast
Melbourne
Port
Richmond
Essendon
Freo
Collingwood
North Melb
Brisbane
Carlton

Brownlow - luke Parker
Coleman - Josh Kennedy (WCE)
Rising star - Taranto
GF - GWS v Swans
Premiers - Swans
Port AA - Gray, Hombsch

Dew and Francou lured back to port next season



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[Robbie4PM]

1. GWS
2. Sydney
3. West Coast
4. Western Bulldogs
5. Geelong
6. Adelaide
7. Melbourne
8. St Kilda

9. Hawthorn
10. Fremantly
11. Collingwood
12. Richmond
13. Port Adelaide
14. North Melbourne
15. Essendon
16. Gold Coast
17. Carlton
18. Brisbane

2017 Brownlow Medallist: Josh Kennedy (Syd)
2017 Coleman Medallist: Josh Kennedy (WCE)
2017 Grand Finalists/Premier: GWS v Sydney (GWS win)
2017 Rising Star: Jacob Hopper (GWS)
2017 PAFC AA squad members: Gray
2017 PAFC B&F: Gray
2017 PAFC Most Improved: Dixon

 

[Garibaldi Red]

2017 Grand Finalists/Premiers: GWS v Sydney - Draw/Sydney win on replay with Buddy slotting one from 65m out on the siren

Extra time, I believe, if the GF is a draw at the end of regulation.

I would prefer your scenario though. They would be 2 epic games.

 

[Visenfest]

If we miss the 8, we'll finish somewhere between 9 and 11. It's then up to KT and Koch to determine whether that's good enough for Hinkley to keep his job. All in all though, if we keep building on the way we played against the Hawks, we should make the 8.

 

[Janus]

Most on SEN yesterday had us finishing bottom 4.

St Kilda/Collingwood/Melbourne better, fine. Don't agree, but fine.

****ing Richmond, Fremantle, Essendon, Gold Coast or North better...**** off.

 

[philreich]

Most on SEN yesterday had us finishing bottom 4.

SEN will be compulsory listening on Monday week if we manage to get over Sydney.

 

[Coobk001]

So looks like based on votes we've gone:

GWS
Sydney
WB
WCE
Geelong
Adelaide
Saints
Port

Hawthorn
Melbourne
Gold Coast
Collingwood
Fremantle
Richmond
Essendon
North Melbourne
Brisbane
Carlton

 

[1954]

It is quite possible that Port can finish higher on the ladder than any of Gold Coast, Brisbane, Carlton, Essendon, Richmond, North Melbourne, Melbourne, and Fremantle.
The actual finishing spot, and whether we play finals, may depend on our form against the likes of Adelaide, Geelong and Hawthorn.

Unless there is a monumental difference in talent ( which there isn't ), games against the crers should always be no worse than 50/50, and geebung and the dawks should not be the powerhouses they once were.

If the stars align I can see us finishing as high as 6th, if they don't maybe 10th - 12th.

If the team is heading around the S bend to Bolivar by the mid point of the season, then I expect that regardless of contracts there would be a major clean out of the coaching box at seasons end, with Kern, Voss and Nicks being the most likely to get the dcm.

 

[Steve Dore]

I hate it when people write articles with facts in them.

"Past performance is not a reliable indicator of future performance."

 

[Steve Dore]

My top eight;

GWS
Sydney
WB
WCE
Geelong
Adelaide
Hawthorn
Ports

Brownlow: Paddy Dangerfield
Rising Star: Rory "Curly" Reilly

 

[David Puddy]

1. Swans
2. GWS
3. Eagles
4. Saints
5. Dogs
6. Cats
7. Hawks
8. Port Adelaide

9. Crows
10. Demons
11. Fremantle
12. Collingwood
13. Gold Coast
14. Essendon
15. Richmond
16. Kangaroos
17. Brisbane
18. Carlton

2017 Brownlow Medallist: Luke Parker
2017 Coleman Medallist: Josh Kennedy
2017 Grand Finalists/Premier: Swans vs GWS (Swans win)
2017 PAFC AA squad members: Wines, Hombsch, Wingard, Gray
2017 PAFC B&F: Wines
2017 PAFC Most Improved: Clurey

 

[Hammer#8]

1. West Coast - They've got the number 1 midfield (Schuey, Mitchell, Gaff and Priddis), the number 1 key forward (Kennedy) and a pretty decent back six (McGovern and a future star in Barass). They could easily be 9-2 at the halfway point of the year, and they've got a good draw overall. They're the oldest list the comp, were in a GF two years ago and if Natanui comes back then they'll be very tough to beat in a home final.

2. GWS - A very good team, and a team the AFL would like to see go well. They showed they can win away from home last year and a GF berth is expected.

3. Sydney - They're basically a top 4 lock for me, most of their players have re-signed and having Franklin, Kennedy, Hannebury, Jack, Parker, Rampe, Grundy, etc means its a no brainer for them to make the top 4 again.

4. Western Bulldogs - There are three types of premierships sides; ones who have a methodical, rigid, sealed tight game plan which carries them the whole year and into September glory where they rarely drop consistency and dominate every key position on the ground (West Coast 1994, Carlton 1995, Essendon 2000, Geelong 2007). The second are the inbetween premiership teams, good teams that were par for the course of their respective years and didn't surprise nor upset any other team on the day (Brisbane Lions 2002, Port 2004, Geelong 2011, Sydney 2012). The third are the snatched-one/stole-one/fluked-one premiership teams (Essendon 1993, Adelaide 1998, Hawthorn 2008 and now Bulldogs 2016). The Bulldogs were the best team in the final month of last year, and with luck and momentum they won the flag. With or without a flag last year they'd still be in everyone's top 4 I suspect, but saying that they look the least likely back-to-back premiership side in history, but if they win it then they haven't fluked and are a great side.

5. Hawthorn - They'll get enough wins and they always seem to have luck and the bounce of the ball go there way. A charitable position I may have put them in but I'm too reluctant to write them off.

6. Adelaide - A stretched out midfield but respectible forward and backline means there's enough talent in their list to keep them in the top 8 comfortably. Riley passes to Rory, back to Reilly, Rory holds it, holds it.

7. Geelong - They lost Bartel/Enright and are too reliant on Dangerwood to win them games. They'll make finals but that's all to expect. It's there high winning record at Skilled Stadium which almost guarntees them to win 9-10 games at home, ergo a finals place.

8. St Kilda - The one spot of the top eight where a new entrant seems likely from 2016's top eight. The Saints are a good, explosive, plucky team with a good brain in the box (Richo) and I think they're slightly ahead of Collingwood and Melbourne (who they had the wood over in 2016).

9. Melbourne - Everyone expects them to be in the finals but I still feel they're too raw, inexperienced and only sporadically show high end talent that fizzles quickly. I think a 2018 finals place looks likely. In another weaker year they might get in the top 8, but they're a bit of a prodigal son for the AFL and like the Western Bulldogs they're quite chic at the moment.

10. Collingwood - They've basically loaded up on new recruits and heightened expectations in the offseason, but they're getting by on reputation and not enough output. Like Shaw before Buckley, club greats are not always the best choice for coach.

11. Port Adelaide - I've written summaries of where Port is at all over this forum. But basically I know my club way too well and I know where they'll finish up. I thought at times we were a tough club last season that could win well and dish it out on teams below us on the ladder. But the early season Showdown and the GWS loss two weeks later just showed to me that this club are very suspectible to really losing their way in a season. As an analogy, they are a F1 race car with a bad driver behind the wheel. They have all the ingredients, but they can't deliver.

12. Fremantle - They'll improve as expected but maybe not enough to get them back a spot in the top 8. Their top 5 players are very good, but past that they drop off in talent like an anchor.

13. North Melbourne - It's hard to know where to put Norf. They've lost a bunch of elders that were more overexperienced than they were actually fair dinkum finals quality. I think Norf can grind out some wins, but they'll face the slide down the ladder.

14. Essendon - They're back and I don't expect them to really do much. They may have a few 'inspiring' moments where the broadcasters really ham up an average win in a journalistically dreamy and happy way, but they'll be rusty in their performances and they're a broken club mending itself organisationally as well as on the field.

15. Richmond - Their 2016 season was back to their norm I thought. They're the pampered, big 4 Victorian club who get overexposed, overdiscussed and overanalysed every season but never really amount to much.

16. Carlton - They'll still find the heart and desire to rise up and beat us but other than that they're just a list of recycled Crews players, youth and one superstar in Cripps but I can't really see them doing much.

17. Gold Coast - They get Ablett back but he's really the shell of a once GOAT player. Besides May, Hall and Lynch who are talented, the rest of their list seem like QFL fill in players.

18. Brisbane - Objectively the worst team in the comp. Their forward line and backline are absolute bare-bone L-platers of inexperience and youth. They'll find a quarter of competitiveness against a top-4 team at home to be the highlight of their season.

Brownlow: Marcus Bontempelli
Coleman: Josh Kennedy (WCE)
Grand Finalists/Premier: West Coast vs Greater Western Sydney (West Coast win)
Port AA Squad Members: Nil
Ports B&F: Ollie Wines
Ports Most Improved: Tom Clurey