Position 2017 Rucks

[The Lemon]

Take Sandi at R2 and Nankervis at F4

Currently running Sandi at R2 and w***ervis at F5.

Don't want to part with my F1-4

 

[vast]

Grundy anyone? Finished the year really strong

 

[Gerald Preston]

Currently running Sandi at R2 and ******vis at F5.

Don't want to part with my F1-4

Same. Dahl, Bud, Greene, Ruff for me with Nank/Bowes F5/6

 

[Pea Nut]

Grundy anyone? Finished the year really strong

Surely the set and forget ruck combo is Gawn & Grundy. Looking for value in the ruck is dicey to say the least.

 

[Sydney Kicker]

Surely the set and forget ruck combo is Gawn & Grundy. Looking for value in the ruck is dicey to say the least.

I strongly disagree with the concept of set and forget. As we all know the best rucks change from year to year and rucks (all rucks) are exposed to high injury risk. You look for value on all lines and take the best rookies where they are available regardless of the line and then fit the premos and the midpricers. Yes with only 2 starters on the line and one reserve rucks are somewhat a special case but not enough to overcome this basic rule IMHO. Gawn is only a must have if you see him as one of the best 2 or 3 C/VC options.

Sure Gawn and Grundy are way less risky from an injury or selection perspective than Sandi or Witts or Cameron etc. But you have to consider the converse risk. That is that Sandi pumps out a series of triple figure scores in the first 7 or 8 rounds giving those who started with him a priceless advantage. Or Grundy performs ok but not as well as some other player having a break out year and you're locked into the second best.

Rucks are dicey no matter which way you go.

 

[stevebbb]

I'm taking Sandi with the idea that if he doesn't get a major injury, he could easily play 20 games and if he's playing, he's going to average around 100

Even the first 6-8 weeks will do, not ideal, but it won't be the worst thing in the world. He'll get close to $450k and we get a look at the rest of rucks. There's always a rookie who flies out of the blocks, then slows down and gets dropped, so an early upgrade/downgrade will be fine.

Nankervis/Ryder are my insurance if Sandi goes down very early. There won't be 110 averaging forwards this year, I think 90 will be fine for a forward premo, so taking them and having them sit at F6 averaging 80s won't be that bad.

 

[Feerits Elf]

I'm taking Sandi with the idea that if he doesn't get a major injury, he could easily play 20 games and if he's playing, he's going to average around 100

Even the first 6-8 weeks will do, not ideal, but it won't be the worst thing in the world.

No, the first 6-8 weeks would be ideal.

 

[blackshadow]

ATM my rucks are sitting as Sandi and Nank. Preuss at R3.

The Nanklands combo has freed up cash for me to bolster other lines - defence in particular so should still be pumping out points. Have over $100K in the bank at the moment.

The plan is to upgrade Sandi or Nank at round 9 and assess whether to upgrade Nank or move him to the forward line during the bye rounds.

Just got to hope Sandi stays on the park.

I'm also very keen to have a good look at Lycett.

 

[Here2tellyouwhy]

ATM my rucks are sitting as Sandi and Nank. Preuss at R3.

The Nanklands combo has freed up cash for me to bolster other lines - defence in particular so should still be pumping out points. Have over $100K in the bank at the moment.

The plan is to upgrade Sandi or Nank at round 9 and assess whether to upgrade Nank or move him to the forward line during the bye rounds.

Just got to hope Sandi stays on the park.

I'm also very keen to have a good look at Lycett.

Super risky strategy. I like it. Balls like rundle mall for dayz.

Lycett is an injury risk too though.

 

[CotchyPls]

I'm taking Sandi with the idea that if he doesn't get a major injury, he could easily play 20 games and if he's playing, he's going to average around 100

Even the first 6-8 weeks will do, not ideal, but it won't be the worst thing in the world. He'll get close to $450k and we get a look at the rest of rucks. There's always a rookie who flies out of the blocks, then slows down and gets dropped, so an early upgrade/downgrade will be fine.

Nankervis/Ryder are my insurance if Sandi goes down very early. There won't be 110 averaging forwards this year, I think 90 will be fine for a forward premo, so taking them and having them sit at F6 averaging 80s won't be that bad.

Seems like you've done the ol' 180 regarding Sandi

 

[InFiction]

I wouldn't mind saying Sandi is a risk worth taking if he were a few years younger. For me he's just a ticking timebomb though.

Even to go traditional, 1 up, 1 down, you'd need Goldstein to drop 150k, a rookie to generate 150k within the timeframe that it takes Sandi to breakdown. (IF he breaks down!)

IF he averages 100 up until R8, he still wouldn't have gone up by 150k. That's being really optimistic as well.

Very tempted to start him, but I can see it ending badly.

 

[Significant]

I wouldn't mind saying Sandi is a risk worth taking if he were a few years younger. For me he's just a ticking timebomb though.

Even to go traditional, 1 up, 1 down, you'd need Goldstein to drop 150k, a rookie to generate 150k within the timeframe that it takes Sandi to breakdown. (IF he breaks down!)

IF he averages 100 up until R8, he still wouldn't have gone up by 150k. That's being really optimistic as well.

Very tempted to start him, but I can see it ending badly.

100 average for 8 rounds will surely get his price over $450k!

 

[russ]

been burnt far too often in the rucks by not taking best available, hopefully this is the yr i learn my lesson.

 

[Acinath]

Relatively SuperCoach newbie, I don't understand having Sandi at R2 and Nank as ruck coverage at F4/5...?

I'm starting with Gawn and Nank, can someone explain the purpose of this to me?

 

[Pea Nut]

Relatively SuperCoach newbie, I don't understand having Sandi at R2 and Nank as ruck coverage at F4/5...?

I'm starting with Gawn and Nank, can someone explain the purpose of this to me?

The idea is to have your player at R3 (ruck bench) to have ruc/fwd status, and pick Nank in the forward line who can then be interchanged into the ruck line. People wanting to go with this set up are trying to get maximum value from both players who are potentially under-priced, and want the cover if Sandilands was to go down injured.

 

[stevebbb]

Seems like you've done the ol' 180 regarding Sandi

Initial reports was that he wouldn't play any JLT and possibly even be in doubt for Round 1; he ended up playing JLT 2 and I'm assuming will play JLT 3, so it was obviously a less severe injury

 

[Huttabito]

100 average for 8 rounds will surely get his price over $450k!

Constant 100 will see him pretty much smack on $450k! 80 against Goldy/Gawn and 120 against the rest will see his price around $475k after 8 rounds.

 

[Here2tellyouwhy]

Constant 100 will see him pretty much smack on $450k! 80 against Goldy/Gawn and 120 against the rest will see his price around $475k after 8 rounds.

That's not the only thing that will rise...

 

[Kadog]

Initial reports was that he wouldn't play any JLT and possibly even be in doubt for Round 1; he ended up playing JLT 2 and I'm assuming will play JLT 3, so it was obviously a less severe injury

Initial reports said it was a minor calf. Don't know where you read he'd miss JLT and possibly rd1.

 

[stevebbb]

Initial reports said it was a minor calf. Don't know where you read he'd miss JLT and possibly rd1.

100% sure I read that he'd miss JLT, with a chance at playing JLT3
Maybe I read it on BF, hearsay

 

[Seymour Skinner]

Rucks are so bad that I'm already starting to play my team for 2018. I'll take NN at a bit over 400k, a 102k DPP rookie and The Mighty Nank at 750k.
I know 1.25mil is a bit much to pay for 3 players but I really just wanna set and forget.

 

[Sydney Kicker]

Rucks are so bad that I'm already starting to play my team for 2018. I'll take NN at a bit over 400k, a 102k DPP rookie and The Mighty Nank at 750k.
I know 1.25mil is a bit much to pay for 3 players but I really just wanna set and forget.

I know nobody's mentioned him but how about Gawn. Just 470k - obviously a huge risk after his horror 2017 but could potentially go big. Yes I know Nanks the safe pick but Gawn could be worth a punt?

 

[Here2tellyouwhy]

Rucks are so bad that I'm already starting to play my team for 2018. I'll take NN at a bit over 400k, a 102k DPP rookie and The Mighty Nank at 750k.
I know 1.25mil is a bit much to pay for 3 players but I really just wanna set and forget.

Nank at 750k is only an average of 150.

I think your underselling him a bit

 

[Seymour Skinner]

I know nobody's mentioned him but how about Gawn. Just 470k - obviously a huge risk after his horror 2017 but could potentially go big. Yes I know Nanks the safe pick but Gawn could be worth a punt?

I don't think I could do it after his 34th knee op, love the bloke, but too risky.

Nank at 750k is only an average of 150.

I think your underselling him a bit

I tried to undersell him on purpose, didn't want people accusing me of wearing yellow and black tinted glasses.

 

[Huttabito]

Speaking to @TomMcDonald92 on @SportsdayRadio. Says dual ruckmen Gawn-Spencer was a long shot start of pre-season... every chance now for R1

Change anyones mind?