2017 trade/draft thread

[bl4ke]

resigned from my job and starting another one on monday of course.

no one saw sammy mitchell coming to us did they?

But I support your drinking

 

[Hap Hapablap]

Much different circumstances

even so i just have this feeling wce will want to try and remove their ultra conservative image prior to moving to the new stadium. they have money and they need to build a squad asap to keep the stadium full

 

[bl4ke]

I think something that is often over looked is Wellingham's contract. That struggler is on so much bloody money it's not funny. His contract coming to an end is a very big blessing

 

[Hap Hapablap]

I think something that is often over looked is Wellingham's contract. That struggler is on so much bloody money it's not funny. His contract coming to an end is a very big blessing

this is also another good sign a lot of the deadwood on heaps of cash will be forced into lower contracts.

 

[The Original Swooper]

Caleb Daniel would

I think he is on the untouchable list.

 

[amazingjoshy]

Up to five retirements of what we assume would be well paid players, plus we supposedly are one of a handful of clubs that will benefit massively from the cap increase due to the nature of our contracts. Plus maybe trading a Gaff or the like for picks (first round plus Acres please) we could potentially be sitting a fortune of cap space.

 

[bl4ke]

If we were to get rid of Gaff I wouldn't mind having a look at Billy Hartung

 

[bl4ke]

"There's a number of reasons (to retire) from list management, to my form, to my role going forward," he said.

"I put my own hand up and say I can't make enough of a contribution to the team in the forward line.

"Speed is probably something that is one of the most important things up there."

 

[dajesmac]

If memory serves dajesmac was into Honeychurch at the time? Someone round these parts definitely was

Don't think it was me

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

I do not really like the guy but if we want an centre clearance extractor, then Rockliff is about the only FA I can see as filling the brief. I had a look at the FA listing on the AFL site and a surprisingly small list.

Tom could potentially cost us nothing in picks and if we have plenty of cap, he may fill the need for a couple of years. I expect Brisbane to have plenty of cap space this year but will get tighter in the next 2 to 3 years which is probably the deal he would want.

So the question for Vozzo is does he think we are a genuine title team in the next 2 years. If not, stay away from Tom. If yes, we may be interested and we would possibly be looking for a trade. On balance, a pass from me.

 

[lewigie]

So wait is Mitchell retiring or has the media ****ed up

 

[WCE_phil]

Really think we should go very hard at both rockliff and zaharakis. Both cost nothing but money which we will have a punt load of. Can then look at offloading gaff and or masten and look at using our then very strong draft position to potentially trade in a few other players and still take some talent from the draft.

Could very well in theory trade out gaff, masten and our first, second and third round picks and grab rockliff, zaharakis, dave swallow, acres, mcgovern and matera.

Matera isn't worth more than a third.
Gov jnr is really a second rounder plus change.
Dave swallow would likely be a first rounder.
Gaff + our second swaps for acres + saint later first rounder.


Gaff + 30 for Acres + 9
dave swallow + 21 + 25 for pick 9 + pick 10
matera for our third rounder
Gov jnr for 25 + karpany or similar.

FB Sheppard Barrass Hurn
HB Duggan Mcgovern Yeo
C Zaharakis Rockliff Acres
HF Jetta Darling Venables
FF Mcgovern Kennedy Matera
R Nicnat Swallow Shuey
I Sheed Redden Cripps Vardy/Lycett
E Emac, Cole, Nelson, Hutchings, Partington, Wellingham Vardy/Lycett

Looks a good core of 31 afl ready players to me. Wish in one hand, piss in the other and pray for a miracle.

 

[Mickey Rae]

Really think we should go very hard at both rockliff and zaharakis. Both cost nothing but money which we will have a punt load of. Can then look at offloading gaff and or masten and look at using our then very strong draft position to potentially trade in a few other players and still take some talent from the draft.

Could very well in theory trade out gaff, masten and our first, second and third round picks and grab rockliff, zaharakis, dave swallow, acres, mcgovern and matera.

Matera isn't worth more than a third.
Gov jnr is really a second rounder plus change.
Dave swallow would likely be a first rounder.
Gaff + our second swaps for acres + saint later first rounder.


Gaff + 30 for Acres + 9
dave swallow + 21 + 25 for pick 9 + pick 10
matera for our third rounder
Gov jnr for 25 + karpany or similar.

FB Sheppard Barrass Hurn
HB Duggan Mcgovern Yeo
C Zaharakis Rockliff Acres
HF Jetta Darling Venables
FF Mcgovern Kennedy Matera
R Nicnat Swallow Shuey
I Sheed Redden Cripps Vardy/Lycett
E Emac, Cole, Nelson, Hutchings, Partington, Wellingham Vardy/Lycett

Looks a good core of 31 afl ready players to me. Wish in one hand, piss in the other and pray for a miracle.

But you're not playing the kids!!!! Where's Parto, Nelson and Cole???

 

[Chris_6678]

I wonder if we will develop Duggan back into a midfield over the summer with Mitchell's tutelage. I want Yeo to continue to play down back where he play he plays his best footy with a few mid rotations though out the game.

 

[WCEbrody]

I want Yeo to continue to play down back where he play he plays his best footy with a few mid rotations though out the game.

So do i but with Mitchell & Priddis gone at the end of the year i'd be surprised if he's not a full-time midfielder by the end of next season.

Whether or not he's good enough to be one, i don't know.

 

[bl4ke]

Really think we should go very hard at both rockliff and zaharakis. Both cost nothing but money which we will have a punt load of. Can then look at offloading gaff and or masten and look at using our then very strong draft position to potentially trade in a few other players and still take some talent from the draft.

Could very well in theory trade out gaff, masten and our first, second and third round picks and grab rockliff, zaharakis, dave swallow, acres, mcgovern and matera.

Matera isn't worth more than a third.
Gov jnr is really a second rounder plus change.
Dave swallow would likely be a first rounder.
Gaff + our second swaps for acres + saint later first rounder.


Gaff + 30 for Acres + 9
dave swallow + 21 + 25 for pick 9 + pick 10
matera for our third rounder
Gov jnr for 25 + karpany or similar.

FB Sheppard Barrass Hurn
HB Duggan Mcgovern Yeo
C Zaharakis Rockliff Acres
HF Jetta Darling Venables
FF Mcgovern Kennedy Matera
R Nicnat Swallow Shuey
I Sheed Redden Cripps Vardy/Lycett
E Emac, Cole, Nelson, Hutchings, Partington, Wellingham Vardy/Lycett

Looks a good core of 31 afl ready players to me. Wish in one hand, piss in the other and pray for a miracle.

Way overs for Swallow

 

[Chris_6678]

So do i but with Mitchell & Priddis gone at the end of the year i'd be surprised if he's not a full-time midfielder by the end of next season.

Whether or not he's good enough to be one, i don't know.

With Priddis and Mitchell out of the side there is a big chance to play in the guts without having to be plonked on a HFF.

I think we might also see a good year from Redden who along with Shuey will be the senior mids for the next few years ( Both are 27).

 

[Mickey Rae]

I wonder if we will develop Duggan back into a midfield over the summer with Mitchell's tutelage. I want Yeo to continue to play down back where he play he plays his best footy with a few mid rotations though out the game.

After the lack of awareness he showed in the last quarter "incident" against Collingwood it may be a while before he gets thrown into the heat of the battle in the midfield where you need a fair bit of peripheral vision and leg speed off the mark.

 

[JADED]

I know, it's Gossage being Gossage...but it is good to think about. Plus he stole my idea about 5 pages back.

The pipedream gathers motion.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

I wonder if we will develop Duggan back into a midfield over the summer with Mitchell's tutelage. I want Yeo to continue to play down back where he play he plays his best footy with a few mid rotations though out the game.

Yeo allows us to play only 2 talls in defence and we are considerably quicker.

I am yet to see Yeo take on a game in midfield like he has from HBF. Seems wrong to gain an average mid and lose a gun defender. Have a look at Yeo in at stoppages. He is not that great at getting his hands from bounces/toss ups.

Now I think this last bit would hopefully give Duggan the confidence he needs. Let's see what a season with a proper midfield/stoppage coach in Mitchell will do for Duns and Nelson. I think Mitchell will be able to impart a lot into Duggan.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

After the lack of awareness he showed in the last quarter "incident" against Collingwood it may be a while before he gets thrown into the heat of the battle in the midfield where you need a fair bit of peripheral vision and leg speed off the mark.

I was not angry at Duggan getting caught. He was one of the few who tried to take the game on as many of his colleagues had started stalling for time. Yes the holding the ball hurt us but we were inflicting our own pain prior to that incident.

 

[Chris_6678]

Yeo allows us to play only 2 talls in defence and we are considerably quicker.

I am yet to see Yeo take on a game in midfield like he has from HBF. Seems wrong to gain an average mid and lose a gun defender. Have a look at Yeo in at stoppages. He is not that great at getting his hands from bounces/toss ups.

Now I think this last bit would hopefully give Duggan the confidence he needs. Let's see what a season with a proper midfield/stoppage coach in Mitchell will do for Duns and Nelson. I think Mitchell will be able to impart a lot into Duggan.

100% agree.

I have always been a massive fan of two tall defenders instead of the three we have been trying all year. Shep and Yeo offer some height to go along with Gov And Barrass. Duggan as a mid also allows us to develop Watson along with Cole and Nelson down back.

Ideally round 1 backline:

Nelson Barrass Shep
Hurn Gov Yeo

Bench: Cole

 

[Mickey Rae]

I was not angry at Duggan getting caught. He was one of the few who tried to take the game on as many of his colleagues had started stalling for time. Yes the holding the ball hurt us but we were inflicting our own pain prior to that incident.

Agree ...

 

[matt_bas]

I know, it's Gossage being Gossage...but it is good to think about. Plus he stole my idea about 5 pages back.

 

[random260]

I reckon we should throw some big bucks at scott thompson