2017 trade/draft thread

[Falco]

Should have taken Banfield but agree that Ryan would have been a better selection than Gorter

I hope we pick up Banfield this year. How to you rate Guelfi?

 

[Agent93]

Left field - Kieren Jack has a Perth girlfriend and his parents in Sydney and he don't talk. Not getting a game in Sydney. How about Jetta for Jack? Or Masten for Jack?

Strangely, I think they'd like a Schofield type. Given that he's not best 22, maybe worth a crack at unloading some of our junk on Sydney.

Looking at that list, we should have a crack at landing Zaha and Rocky, could get both for nothing but salary space.

Zaka and Shuey are good mates. I wouldn't mind him at our club TBH.

 

[mattyc75]

Strangely, I think they'd like a Schofield type. Given that he's not best 22, maybe worth a crack at unloading some of our junk on Sydney.

Zaka and Shuey are good mates. I wouldn't mind him at our club TBH.

Every year people on here suggest zaharakis because him.and shuey are mates,hasn't happened yet.if it didnt happen during the supplements scandal I'm guessing it won't at all

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[Keys]

I hope we pick up Banfield this year. How to you rate Guelfi?

You're asking the wrong person I'm afraid - I don't know even vaguely enough to offer a view on Guelfi

I only know a bit about Banfield because I followed his progression last year as I'd watched him play against my son in Broome years ago. Other posters like Monocle and AsterixTheGaul who saw him first hand confirmed what he played like sufficiently to convince me he'd have been a good rookie selection

 

[Agent93]

Every year people on here suggest zaharakis because him.and shuey are mates,hasn't happened yet.if it didnt happen during the supplements scandal I'm guessing it won't at all

Difference is he's not under contract now, so he may believe he's fulfilled his obligations, and WCE do not need to trade for him as a free agent.

 

[mattyc75]

Difference is he's not under contract now, so he may believe he's fulfilled his obligations, and WCE do not need to trade for him as a free agent.

That would be good but he has probably signed new contracts since the scandal too( just a guess).
He's back in form but hasn't been too good this year so I'd see how he goes for the rest of the year

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[donpyke92]

No from me for Zaharakis. The description of inconsistent seems spot on.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

You're asking the wrong person I'm afraid - I don't know even vaguely enough to offer a view on Guelfi

I only know a bit about Banfield because I followed his progression last year as I'd watched him play against my son in Broome years ago. Other posters like Monocle and AsterixTheGaul who saw him first hand confirmed what he played like sufficiently to convince me he'd have been a good rookie selection

I rate Banfield above Guelfi but like both. How the F### we took Gorter is beyond me. I know Keys likes him but with Rotham I though we have that covered.

Banfield is a blue collar midfielder. I would have though him a better bet than another HBF'er or 3rd tall defender. He is having a decent year at Claremont and maturing nicely. Guelfi has been good but a little less consistent.

 

[Keys]

I rate Banfield above Guelfi but like both. How the F### we took Gorter is beyond me. I know Keys likes him but with Rotham I though we have that covered.

Banfield is a blue collar midfielder. I would have though him a better bet than another HBF'er or 3rd tall defender. He is having a decent year at Claremont and maturing nicely. Guelfi has been good but a little less consistent.

I like him insofar as he's a good kid with a solid work ethic who'll do everything he can to get the most out of his talent. But I'm not convinced his talent is anything more than a solid WAFL player and as you say he didn't fill a list need. Furthermore he wasn't likely to make giant strides this year so we could have continued to monitor his development at EP this year and pulled the trigger this year to rookie him - he was never likely to be in great demand

Had a sneaking suspicion last year that we would rookie him but had a preference for Banfield

 

[Falco]

I like him insofar as he's a good kid with a solid work ethic who'll do everything he can to get the most out of his talent. But I'm not convinced his talent is anything more than a solid WAFL player and as you say he didn't fill a list need. Furthermore he wasn't likely to make giant strides this year so we could have continued to monitor his development at EP this year and pulled the trigger this year to rookie him - he was never likely to be in great demand

Had a sneaking suspicion last year that we would rookie him but had a preference for Banfield

I assume you're talking about Guelfi? I have heard its a shallow draft year and perhaps we may use the rookie list a little better and pick kids up from the WAFL with potential.

 

[Keys]

I assume you're talking about Guelfi? I have heard its a shallow draft year and perhaps we may use the rookie list a little better and pick kids up from the WAFL with potential.

Sorry for not being clear - I was referring to Gorter

My knowledge on Guelfi is limited to knowing he plays for Claremont

 

[Monocle]

You're asking the wrong person I'm afraid - I don't know even vaguely enough to offer a view on Guelfi

I only know a bit about Banfield because I followed his progression last year as I'd watched him play against my son in Broome years ago. Other posters like Monocle and AsterixTheGaul who saw him first hand confirmed what he played like sufficiently to convince me he'd have been a good rookie selection

Guelfi is a good kid but I doubt that he will ever be AFL standard, that said he is going to forge out a very tidy WAFL career for himself.
I rated him pre draft as a rung under Declan Mountford ( different year I know but I use the two players for a comparison only ). Mountford has been on Norths list a while now and is finding it hard to cement a regular berth, so thats a bit of an indicator for me. There are several WAFL player that i rate a lot higher in AFL potential than Guelfi. Just my two cents worth to help contribute to the discussion.

As for Banfield:

Like Asterix I am a Claremont Member and I have seen a lot of Banfield ( and again like Asterix ) I am befuddled as to why he is not on an AFL list.
Closer to home the selection of Gorter ahead of him..... simply beggars belief. A real WTF decision .
Not only is Banfield already a better football than Gorter , he is also two years younger.
Gorter is a player who's position we are long on, whilst Banfield plays a role we are short on.

Go figure.

 

[dajesmac]

Mountford has been on Norths list a while now and is finding it hard to cement a regular berth, so thats a bit of an indicator for me.

Same age and draft range as Mutimer so it's early days.

 

[Monocle]

Same age and draft range as Mutimer so it's early days.

Be that as it may I don't see how that relates to the Guelfi question that was posed by Falco.
Let me be clear I don't rate Mountford as a bad selection by North.
Rather my opinion was that I didn't rate Guelfi as good a player as Mountford, I still hold that view and have seen nothing to make me waver in that assessment.

Being WA kids and Claremont juniors I would actually love all three to have great AFL careers , however at this point in time I just cant see that happening.

In terms of talent I rate the three young Claremont player in this order.

Banfield.





Mountford.

Guelfi.

As I said just my thoughts.

 

[dajesmac]

Be that as it may I don't see how that relates to the Guelfi question that was posed by Falco.
Let me be clear I don't rate Mountford as a bad selection by North.
Rather my opinion was that I didn't rate Guelfi as good a player as Mountford, I still hold that view and have seen nothing to make me waver in that assessment.

Being WA kids and Claremont juniors I would actually love all three to have great AFL careers , however at this point in time I just cant see that happening.

In terms of talent I rate the three young Claremont player in this order.

Banfield.





Mountford.

Guelfi.

As I said just my thoughts.

Nah, I just thought the fact that Mountford hasn't cemented his spot in North's lineup isn't too much of a knock - he's performing quite well against alot of other draftees of the same age.

Wasn't trying to criticise or contradict your comparison to Guelfi.

 

[Monocle]

Nah, I just thought the fact that Mountford hasn't cemented his spot in North's lineup isn't too much of a knock - he's performing quite well against alot of other draftees of the same age.

Wasn't trying to criticise or contradict your comparison to Guelfi.

All good dajesmac I didn't take it as a criticism , more so I was just trying to give it the right perspective.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

I assume you're talking about Guelfi? I have heard its a shallow draft year and perhaps we may use the rookie list a little better and pick kids up from the WAFL with potential.

I disagree on the shallow draft in 2017 comment. WA talent is shallow (correction - really light on) but my contacts in Melbourne are saying that the draft this year is really good and has something of everything with both Vic teams.

You can expect to see a few bottom age in the WA U18 team

 

[Woobla Stainz]

I disagree on the shallow draft in 2017 comment. WA talent is shallow (correction - really light on) but my contacts in Melbourne are saying that the draft this year is really good and has something of everything with both Vic teams.

You can expect to see a few bottom age in the WA U18 team

Ian Hill?

 

[eagles rule]

Should have just taken Liam Ryan instead of Gorter ,no real need for Banfield plenty of similar players around imo ..

 

[avishka5]

no to Zaha. Last thing we need is another peahearted mid that turns to water under pressure. The best thing he can do for him self is stay at essendon and look a million bucks when the bomber mids and the rest of the team become contenders in the next few years.

 

[Falco]

I disagree on the shallow draft in 2017 comment. WA talent is shallow (correction - really light on) but my contacts in Melbourne are saying that the draft this year is really good and has something of everything with both Vic teams.

You can expect to see a few bottom age in the WA U18 team

I've heard that it drops off after the top 30 much like 2015 and that there are more KPPs to choose from. Happy to be wrong, I foresee this draft being especially important for us given the amount of turnover coming on our list.

Do you know much about Oscar Allen? He seems to be mentioned with Aaron Naughton as the best of the WA crop.

 

[Falco]

Watching Shai Bolton in the first half of the Dreamtime at the 'G game makes me sad we dont have him zipping around.

 

[porttoport]

Watching Shai Bolton in the first half of the Dreamtime at the 'G game makes me sad we dont have him zipping around.

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[dajesmac]

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He probably just lacks the tank still. He'll have 1 game in 3 weeks now for the Royals, hopefully we increase his running loads to somewhat compensate because I'd really like to see him debut this year.

 

[Monocle]

I've heard that it drops off after the top 30 much like 2015 and that there are more KPPs to choose from. Happy to be wrong, I foresee this draft being especially important for us given the amount of turnover coming on our list.

Do you know much about Oscar Allen? He seems to be mentioned with Aaron Naughton as the best of the WA crop.

Bit to early to limit the top end talent to 30 at this point in time.
I say that because almost every year there are four to five tall's who emerge from seemingly nowhere ( pre State 18's ) to push their way up draft boards, often into the first round. Example this time last year Griffin Logue was considered an outside chance to be drafted , however a first round grade on him was unheard of.

My information stacks up with some of the info you have as there are indeed quite a lot of quality KPP in this years draft and when you consider that there will be half a dozen more that emerge and announce themselves at the State 18's, then the KPP numbers will swell.

Just because there are more KPP player than usual at the top end of this years draft don't think for one moment that the mids are not as good as usual.
There are up to 15 mids who would in any other year be quality first rounders and some of these will be pushed down the draft board a bit due to eager Clubs wanting to restock with tall's.

This years mids come in all varieties inside / outside and those rare gems who play both rolls well. Likewise speed and endurance is also plentiful in this years cohort of mids.

Its a sensational year to go into the first round with two picks as St Kilda , Richmond and Brisbane do , as they get a chance to nab both a quality tall and small.

I see three very good rounds of draft picks in this years cohort and after that I do see there being a good chance for the Banfield / Ryan types who had previously been overlooked to come into contention.