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2017 trade/draft thread

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JJ would be nice, but he is a running half back who we actually don't have a need for. And I have seen enough failed "oh he could push into the midfield" attempts to last a life time. Also a premiership norm smith winning player normally does not come cheap. One who is also very happy in Melboune. So would not be a steal at all.

Gov Jnr would be nice also. But again really does not fill a need right now.

A grade mid or nothing.
Who is this running half back we have in our team?
 
Oh, I'll jump in.

Wellingham, Sheppard and Nelson.

Sure, how well they go in that role depends on their form, but they all (try to) do it.
Sheppard and Wellingham barely run and carry. They should more, when they did in 2015 they were significantly better. I don't know what games you've watched this year but our ball movement out of the backline has been stagnate, slow and long down the line. Nelson has been the only one who runs with pace out of the backline.
 

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Sheppard and Wellingham barely run and carry. They should more, when they did in 2015 they were significantly better. I don't know what games you've watched this year but our ball movement out of the backline has been stagnate, slow and long down the line. Nelson has been the only one who runs with pace out of the backline.

I think we're on the same page. We have players capable of run and carry but they're not in top form at the moment.

That changes though, so I wouldn't be suggesting we have no running half backs.

Having said that, I'm all for getting JJ but strongly doubt he's actually interested and that the price would be right.
 
Rule of thumb for me this year would be to keep our first at all costs, and don't target anyone over 25 :handfist::mad:

That up and coming mid who's yet to establish himself but has shown potential (Cal Ward circa 2011, Acres, Hopper etc) I suppose Sheed would be our version of this player, it should be Duggan but he's still just running on reputation right now rather than performance.

If we could entice someone like that, just like the way St Kilda recruited Jack Steele for very little (future 2nd rounder it turned out to be, currently pick #27) i'd say that would be a good first step to building our new midfield.



On our current list, i'd say it's time to cut some of the boys club at years end :scissors::scissors::scissors::scissors:
 
Re: JJ, would love his speed across half back but have some serious concerns about his disposal. Don't want him especially if it takes $800k pa to get him across.

AFL‏ @AFLtradetalk 13h13 hours ago
Jason Johannisen(WB) joins Mitch McGovern(ADL) as top priority signings this year. JJ wants $800k. WCE offer at $650k over 4 yrs

Other players we are into:
Mitch McGovern
AFL‏ @AFLtradetalk May 14
Mitch McGovern for Eagles second round pick should get done this year.

Paul Puopolo
AFL‏ @AFLtradetalk 13h13 hours ago
WCE, Brisbane & Geelong inquiring about small forward Paul Puopolo(HAW)

Tom Rockliff
AFL‏ @AFLtradetalk May 15
Tom Rockliff has showed interest in joining West Coast with best mate Jack Redden. Adelaide, Essendon and Saints are other clubs in the race

Brandon Matera
AFL‏ @AFLtradetalk May 15
Brandon Matera will seek a trade this year. His preferred destination is WCE. WC are yet to make a commitment to him.
- I'd be happy with this at the right price, especially if we lose Lecca​

Mitch Duncan
AFL‏ @AFLtradetalk May 14
Both Eagles and Freo are wanting to lure WA boy Mitch Duncan back to Perth.
- Yes please, prob my favourite target for us so far.​

Nathan Wilson
AFL‏ @AFLtradetalk May 14
West Coast and Fremantle asking questions about the services of GWS defender Nathan Wilson.
- Went alright against us on the weekend but don't know enough about him...​

Other news (had a quick look in this thread and couldn't see a lot of it here:
AFL‏ @AFLtradetalk 13h13 hours ago
Essendon are also inquiring about Josh Kelly(GWS) and Mark LeCras(WCE)
AFL‏ @AFLtradetalk 13h13 hours ago
Bombers offer $500k/2yrs for LeCras(WCE)
- Would be a free agent so would get nothing for him​

AFL‏ @AFLtradetalk May 14
Geelong looking at out of favour West Coast defender Eric Mackenzie as a replacement for Lonergan.

AFL‏ @AFLtradetalk May 15
Andrew Swallow's career seems up in the air. He will most likely be delisted at seasons end because of minimal interest from rival clubs.
- Too old too slow but is from WA and we've been linked to him forever​

AFL‏ @AFLtradetalk May 14
Marcus Adams will again seek a trade back to WA this year for personal reasons.
- Could be a good replacement for someone we may need to lose to get McGovern etc, we were reportedly interested last year.
On a side note, not too sure who '@AFLtradetalk' is but they were on the money around several trades last year so I've been following them since.
 
Marcus Adams has just re-signed with the Bulldogs for 3 years so scratch him

I'd prefer Nathan Wilson to johannsen
 
Re: JJ, would love his speed across half back but have some serious concerns about his disposal. Don't want him especially if it takes $800k pa to get him across.



Other players we are into:
Mitch McGovern


Paul Puopolo


Tom Rockliff


Brandon Matera

- I'd be happy with this at the right price, especially if we lose Lecca​

Mitch Duncan

- Yes please, prob my favourite target for us so far.​

Nathan Wilson

- Went alright against us on the weekend but don't know enough about him...​

Other news (had a quick look in this thread and couldn't see a lot of it here:


- Would be a free agent so would get nothing for him​




- Too old too slow but is from WA and we've been linked to him forever​


- Could be a good replacement for someone we may need to lose to get McGovern etc, we were reportedly interested last year.
On a side note, not too sure who '@AFLtradetalk' is but they were on the money around several trades last year so I've been following them since.
Marcus Adams just re-signed yesterday. Duncan is contracted until 2020, no chance. Rockliff has verbally recommitted to Brisbane. Read an article yesterday saying Wilson is finally settled in Sydney after wanting out for a few years with homesickness, think we've missed the boat on him. 800k is way too much for JJ, and do we really need him with Francis Watson coming through? Realistically we'll get Mitch McGovern for a 2nd rounder, Brandon Matera for 3rd/4th and keep our 1st. LeCras and MacKenzie can go for all I care
 
One that I would be keen on is David Cuningham from Carlton
 
Re: JJ, would love his speed across half back but have some serious concerns about his disposal. Don't want him especially if it takes $800k pa to get him across.



Other players we are into:
Mitch McGovern


Paul Puopolo


Tom Rockliff


Brandon Matera

- I'd be happy with this at the right price, especially if we lose Lecca​

Mitch Duncan

- Yes please, prob my favourite target for us so far.​

Nathan Wilson

- Went alright against us on the weekend but don't know enough about him...​

Other news (had a quick look in this thread and couldn't see a lot of it here:


- Would be a free agent so would get nothing for him​




- Too old too slow but is from WA and we've been linked to him forever​


- Could be a good replacement for someone we may need to lose to get McGovern etc, we were reportedly interested last year.
On a side note, not too sure who '@AFLtradetalk' is but they were on the money around several trades last year so I've been following them since.
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Marcus Adams just re-signed yesterday. Duncan is contracted until 2020, no chance. Rockliff has verbally recommitted to Brisbane. Read an article yesterday saying Wilson is finally settled in Sydney after wanting out for a few years with homesickness, think we've missed the boat on him. 800k is way too much for JJ, and do we really need him with Francis Watson coming through? Realistically we'll get Mitch McGovern for a 2nd rounder, Brandon Matera for 3rd/4th and keep our 1st. LeCras and MacKenzie can go for all I care
That would be a very good result imo.
Trade Mackenzie or schofield Whichever nets us more for a 2nd/3rd rounder and we would be adding.

A readymade AFL level crumber
A good quality AFL forward with upside who could cover for JK in a few years time until we find a true FF
A first rounder (pray we nail it)
A fourth rounder
Late pick for our Uneeded and aging KPD depth.
 
Good to have you back BOND 007
My reading with the draft this year is that it is shallow in WA but really good in Vic with good talls at either ends and excellent midfield. I would make sure any trading for picks takes that into account.

Any chance of trading next years 1st for one this year?

You don't need to read too much the composition of the Academy squads says much


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Why would Essendon want lecca?
 
Watch his game on the weekend? Very impressive for a second year midfielder with pace to burn. Gets into the contest and loves the hard stuff, a real competitor as seen by his 7 tackles. Topped it off with 2 sausage rolls. Went at 100% DE in the VFL a few weeks ago. A fast, hard at it midfielder who can hit targets and score goals, why would we not want him? Would cost a packet of chips and easily more upside than Hutch/Redden/Mutimer
 
I think we said this last year but we'd have a good squad on paper if we pick up a few players.... ie M McGovern, JJ, Matera

Hurn Barrass Shepp
JJ McGovern Wellingham
Jetta Sheed Gaff
Darling McGovern Cripps
Rioli Kennedy Matera
Nic Nat Shuey Yeo

Nelson Venables Vardy Hill

Lycett, Watson, Duggan and Masten there abouts.

Plenty of speed and skill
 
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Club line says they'll be talking to as many who will listen. Reality is they target select players & JJ is certainly one who is of interest. Can't see why you think a kid of 22 is only of value if in premiership contention.
He's 25 this year, if that changes anything. He will also be older than both Redden and Wellingham, and even Tyson Stenglein had been at the point they were traded to the club. Born same year as Gaff, Cripps, Darling, McGovern, and Lycett, with Lycett being closest in age to him.

The 2011 draft class is in their 7th season of AFL footy, and most don't last longer than 12 years so we'd be getting the last 5 years of JJ's career, when he is at peak value. Is the club at, or nearing peak compete in the next few seasons? Probably not, so losing a 1st rounder for JJ doesn't seem like a good bet.

If we end up with pick 13 I'd love to see us take another 200 gamer a la Bunga.
 
Other players we are into:
Mitch McGovern - Or, we could have drafted him instead of Lamb
Paul Puopolo
- Or, we could have drafted him instead of Jacob Brennan but the club had such a hard on for getting a Father-Son recruit
Tom Rockliff
- ditto Jordan Jones.
Brandon Matera
- no chance at him
Mitch Duncan
- Gerrick ****ing Weedon, or Koby Stevens. Pick one.
Nathan Wilson
- no chance at him

Hindsight is great and all, and ignoring the Rockliff draft where he was unfashionable due to being in his second eligible year, the club has made some shocking picks. ****ing Weedon man...
 
You don't need to read too much the composition of the Academy squads says much
The academy is always talked up and not enough people get input from outside their state. I do attend Perth colts games and watch the U18 carnival plus still connected with tragics in Perth and Melbourne that are in and about U18. I have also learnt to listen to other BF posters who provide good insights (eg Monocle, Quiggly, Snoopdog, etc). SO I would back in my judgement on the draft strength and believe 2017 will be a good one.
 
I would like the Club to keep its 1st and 2nd round picks, get rid of Priddis, Lecras, Mackenzie, Schofield, Butler and Redden that should give us some spare cash and just go hard at free agents over the next couple of years so we can keep bringing in quality kids with our draft picks
 
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