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2017 trade/draft thread

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Still think duggan will come good, technically he is slightly more consistent so far this year... (looking for positives) still very young.

I agree i mean not all players look like guns early on. He showed he can do it in 2015 and now he just needs to mature but we also need him to spend more minutes in the center and not on a flank.
 
I agree i mean not all players look like guns early on. He showed he can do it in 2015 and now he just needs to mature but we also need him to spend more minutes in the center and not on a flank.

Don't agree with that, he is (2015 model) a good kick and spreads well so don't really expect him to be dishing out hard ball gets in the guts like Sheed. Doesn't seem quite fit enough at the moment to get to the contest every time also.
 
Would fit right in with how poor he was.
Absolutely useless after they scragged and bumped him a bit.
1 handball in the second, 2 kicks in the third, nothing in the last.
Someone posted in the dogs board that Essendon 7 & 24 for J.J..
Even at his best, that's overs.

To many JJs Norm Smith seemed fortunate . His disposal in GF was awful , often directly hit a Swanee.




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The News of Priddis re-signing and the load of requests from work colleges increasing by the minute, I've turned into an irrational mess. Behold the window of my madness.


Below is some realistic/not so realistic targets from clubs that i think will help depth and starting spots.

Adelaide


Charlie Cameron

Mitch McGovern

Collingwood

Ben Crocker

Jackson Ramsey

Adam Oxley

Gold Coast

Brayden Fiorini

Darcy MacPherson

Jack Martin

Geelong

Corey Gregson

Sam Menagola

Mitch Duncan

GWS

Kennedy of the Matthew variety

Jacob Hopper

St Kilda

Blake Acres

Sydney

Aliir Aliir

Harry Marsh

Bulldogs

Lukas Webb

Bailey Williams

Tom Liberatore

From this I'll give you what I'd like our 22 to look like (dreamland) within 2-3 period

B: Shepard Barrass Aliir
HB: Nelson J. McGovern Hurn (only here cause he has the captaincy)
C: Gaff Shuey Duncan
HF: M. Kennedy M. McGovern Acres
FF: Gregson J.Kennedy Cripps
R: Naitanui Menagola Partington

Int: Wellingham, Venables, Jetta, Lycett
 
Mitch Duncan signed a new deal in February keeping him at Geelong until the end of 2020.

People need to stop naming him as a trade target. It's about as likely as Priddis winning the board's MVP award.
 
Duggan is certainly not a first round pick anymore... So it would be a first round pick and a downgrade to a second next year. Need to be realistic as to what carlton would want. Cripps projects as the best contested mid for the next ten years.

In 2013 we took Sheed over Cripps. If we did the trade you suggested then our recruiters are basically admitting that they have monumentally ****** up not only the 2013 draft but 2014 draft (our first rounder that year is steak knives in trade where we are giving away two other first round picks) too. In any case what you suggested is a lot to give up for a player who is very limited in some aspects. FWIW I think Sheed will be better than Cripps.

Have a look at the following list which shows what we have done with our first round picks since 2011 ( assuming we did the trade you suggested).

2011 Newman (no longer at the club)
2012 traded for Wellingham (29 next month)
2013 Sheed
2014 Duggan (traded for Cripps)
2015 traded for Redden (not best 22 based on past performances as an Eagle)
2016 Vennables
2017 traded for Cripps
2018 traded for Cripps

Potentially we could have had 8 best 22 players (all below 25 years) at the start of 2019 season but as it turns out we may only have two (Sheed and Cripps - may be three if Vennables stays beyond next year). If people think that this type of drafting or trading is not going to create a huge imbalance in player ages and hamper team performance down the track then they are only kidding themselves.
 
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In retrospect, 2 firsts is overs for Cripps. As others have said, it's more then Carlton paid for Judd.

This would probably be a more realistic deal:

Trade:
WCE 2017 First
WCE 2017 Third
Liam Duggan

Receive:
Patrick Cripps
Carlton 2017 Second

Your 1st and Gaff for Cripps is more like it.
 

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We don't need Cripps. Sheed will be fine thanks anyway. We need an outside explosive goal kicker ! I have been on Gaff's back, but the fact is, none of our outside players have that hurt factor . Rosa was better at it than both Masten and Gaff. Was a good mark and played tough. Couldn't kick though :D So who is the player we should be going after ? Kelly would be great, but he isn't coming West nor is Martin. That is why we have to focus on WA boys, unfortunately.
 
We don't need Cripps. Sheed will be fine thanks anyway. We need an outside explosive goal kicker ! I have been on Gaff's back, but the fact is, none of our outside players have that hurt factor . Rosa was better at it than both Masten and Gaff. Was a good mark and played tough. Couldn't kick though :D So who is the player we should be going after ? Kelly would be great, but he isn't coming West nor is Martin. That is why we have to focus on WA boys, unfortunately.

Go hard for Jack Martin
 
We don't need Cripps. Sheed will be fine thanks anyway. We need an outside explosive goal kicker ! I have been on Gaff's back, but the fact is, none of our outside players have that hurt factor . Rosa was better at it than both Masten and Gaff. Was a good mark and played tough. Couldn't kick though :D So who is the player we should be going after ? Kelly would be great, but he isn't coming West nor is Martin. That is why we have to focus on WA boys, unfortunately.
We do need Cripps,our entire midfield needs a reboot.once priddis and Mitchell go we dont have anyone who can fill the void.I dont think sheed is that guy.yes we also need outside players too

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