2017 trade/draft thread

[the early bird]

Can we stop rehashing hacks that no one wants! They clog up lists and get gifted games based on reputation. Either cough up something worth trading for an A grader or go to the draft

 

[jesterwester]

F##k No !! Just what we need another pea hearted player on the list...........

I'd have him on the list, if only to avoid his annual (sometimes bi-annual) 4 goal game against us when we play the cats.

he's also lost a yard or two of pace, so he would fit in well here.

 

[southerneagles]

Interesting thought:

The Rover:
There’s going to be a big clean out at West Coast come season’s end with veterans like Sam Butler, Mark LeCras, Matt Priddis, Sam Mitchell and Drew Petrie either already announcing their retirements or soon to do so.

Which is why I find it hard to believe a rumour I’ve heard over the past couple of weeks from three different sources.

Word is there’s a super-trade under consideration of Andrew Gaff going to Carlton, Bryce Gibbs to Adelaide and Mitch McGovern to the Eagles, with a couple of draft picks moving around too.

Gaff’s been a gun for the Eagles the past three years and it’s hard to see the logic in moving him on, other than that he’s a free agent at the end of 2018 and West Coast may want to trade him while they can get a fair price.

The other two components – Gibbs and McGovern moving home – are both likely to happen, so maybe Gaff could be worked in to the package, but personally I’d rate him the best player in this deal so any ‘steak knives’ thrown in would have to be pretty fancy ones.


http://www.sportingnews.com/au/afl/...coast-suns/1f2rl99d942ff1qw5y2uu4cd5d/slide/2

 

[ArdentEagle]

Interesting thought:

The Rover:
There’s going to be a big clean out at West Coast come season’s end with veterans like Sam Butler, Mark LeCras, Matt Priddis, Sam Mitchell and Drew Petrie either already announcing their retirements or soon to do so.

Which is why I find it hard to believe a rumour I’ve heard over the past couple of weeks from three different sources.

Word is there’s a super-trade under consideration of Andrew Gaff going to Carlton, Bryce Gibbs to Adelaide and Mitch McGovern to the Eagles, with a couple of draft picks moving around too.

Gaff’s been a gun for the Eagles the past three years and it’s hard to see the logic in moving him on, other than that he’s a free agent at the end of 2018 and West Coast may want to trade him while they can get a fair price.

The other two components – Gibbs and McGovern moving home – are both likely to happen, so maybe Gaff could be worked in to the package, but personally I’d rate him the best player in this deal so any ‘steak knives’ thrown in would have to be pretty fancy ones.


http://www.sportingnews.com/au/afl/...coast-suns/1f2rl99d942ff1qw5y2uu4cd5d/slide/2

We need to make our midfield stronger.
It'd be nuts to weaken it further to get Gov Jr.

 

[Altum Volantes]

Gaff is replaceable and rarely stands up when the chips are down...

 

[Godfather32]

Interesting thought:

The Rover:
There’s going to be a big clean out at West Coast come season’s end with veterans like Sam Butler, Mark LeCras, Matt Priddis, Sam Mitchell and Drew Petrie either already announcing their retirements or soon to do so.

Which is why I find it hard to believe a rumour I’ve heard over the past couple of weeks from three different sources.

Word is there’s a super-trade under consideration of Andrew Gaff going to Carlton, Bryce Gibbs to Adelaide and Mitch McGovern to the Eagles, with a couple of draft picks moving around too.

Gaff’s been a gun for the Eagles the past three years and it’s hard to see the logic in moving him on, other than that he’s a free agent at the end of 2018 and West Coast may want to trade him while they can get a fair price.

The other two components – Gibbs and McGovern moving home – are both likely to happen, so maybe Gaff could be worked in to the package, but personally I’d rate him the best player in this deal so any ‘steak knives’ thrown in would have to be pretty fancy ones.


http://www.sportingnews.com/au/afl/...coast-suns/1f2rl99d942ff1qw5y2uu4cd5d/slide/2

I'm not opposed to trading Gaff, but trading him for Mitch McGovern would be beyond stupid.

 

[the early bird]

By getting gov junior we basically keep gov senior which is an added bonus. I like the trade if we get an extra pick. Duggan is primed to move into the middle and covers plenty of territory already he can do Gaffs job. My dream trade would be keeping our first pick and using it on best available genuine midfielder, getting MMcGovern if he wants to come home and grabbing Liam Ryan and Tim Kelly from the WAFL

 

[Godfather32]

By getting gov junior we basically keep gov senior which is an added bonus. I like the trade if we get an extra pick. Duggan is primed to move into the middle and covers plenty of territory already he can do Gaffs job. My dream trade would be keeping our first pick and using it on best available genuine midfielder, getting MMcGovern if he wants to come home and grabbing Liam Ryan and Tim Kelly from the WAFL

But we can do all that without trading Gaff, or using Gaff to get something better

 

[new breed]

What happens if McGovern re-signs which is the most likely ...do we get Carlton's first round pick for Gaff somehow , just throwing a spanner in the works .

Gaffy seems really settled in Perth don't think he is going , hope he stays .

 

[the early bird]

But we can do all that without trading Gaff, or using Gaff to get something better

We're gonna need an extra second round pick if we want Kelly and Ryan I doubt they last to our third round pick. MMcgovern will cost a bit too Gaff is worth it if we draft wisely

 

[Godfather32]

We're gonna need an extra second round pick if we want Kelly and Ryan I doubt they last to our third round pick. MMcgovern will cost a bit too Gaff is worth it if we draft wisely

I'm not saying I don't want to trade Gaff, I'm saying I want more for Gaff than Mitch McGovern and a second round pick. More than happy to draft Kelly and Ryan as well, but it's a shame we didn't take the risk on Ryan in the rookie draft last year.

 

[southerneagles]

I'm not saying I don't want to trade Gaff, I'm saying I want more for Gaff than Mitch McGovern and a second round pick. More than happy to draft Kelly and Ryan as well, but it's a shame we didn't take the risk on Ryan in the rookie draft last year.

I can't help but wonder if the "steak knifes" = an upgrade on a first

 

[avishka5]

**** that. We get bent over hard for that. Gaff is 25 and at his best a very good mid. Gov jr on the other hand is the 4th best forward in the best team in the comp an he hasn't had a super season to warrant a high price.

 

[Godfather32]

I can't help but wonder if the "steak knifes" = an upgrade on a first

So you're thinking we go from say pick 10 to pick 2? I just don't see why Carlton do that, Gibbs for Gaff is basically a wash for them. We would need something extra from Adelaide in this scenario.

 

[new breed]

So you're thinking we go from say pick 10 to pick 2? I just don't see why Carlton do that, Gibbs for Gaff is basically a wash for them. We would need something extra from Adelaide in this scenario.

No we give Carlton pick 9 and Gaff we get McGovern and pick 2 !!!!!

 

[southerneagles]

So you're thinking we go from say pick 10 to pick 2? I just don't see why Carlton do that, Gibbs for Gaff is basically a wash for them. We would need something extra from Adelaide in this scenario.

Yeah have been contemplating the dynamics of it, given he is under contract and previous they have wanted two first rounders think it could mean they get adelaide first rather than ours, we get their first and McGovern and Adelaide get ours and Gibbs

 

[Godfather32]

No we give Carlton pick 9 and Gaff we get McGovern and pick 2 !!!!!

Yeh, that's what I said pretty much, and it's not enough imo

 

[Godfather32]

Yeah have been contemplating the dynamics of it, given he is under contract and previous they have wanted two first rounders think it could mean they get adelaide first rather than ours, we get their first and McGovern and Adelaide get ours and Gibbs

Is there an absolute gun midfielder we can target at 2? (I haven't looked at the draft much at all yet). That's the only way I'd do this trade but I'd rather do Lycett for McGovern and deal with Carlton directly.

 

[Jimmy_the_Gent]

Is there an absolute gun midfielder we can target at 2? (I haven't looked at the draft much at all yet). That's the only way I'd do this trade but I'd rather do Lycett for McGovern and deal with Carlton directly.

Yes, probably one of Rayner or Davies-Uniacke.

 

[Godfather32]

Yes, probably one of Rayner or Davies-Uniacke.

Just looking at a mock draft now, Rayner had me at "powerful fend off".
No love for Dow? Has comparisons to Shuey which would mean we'd have 3 x Shueys in the team.

 

[Falco]

Carlton
Receive: Gaff, Adelaide 2nd rd pick
Lose: Pick 2, Gibbs

West Coast
Receive: Gov Jr, Pick 2
Lose: Gaff

Adelaide
Receive: Gibbs
Lose: McGov Jr, 2nd rd pick

We win that trade, but it seems like Adelaide lose out.

 

[Godfather32]

Carlton
Receive: Gaff
Lose: Pick 2

West Coast
Receive: Gov Jr, Pick 2
Lose: Gaff

Adelaide
Receive: Gibbs
Lose: McGov Jr

We win that trade, but it seems like Adelaide lose out.

Adelaide make out like bandits in that scenario and Carlton lose Pick 2 and Gibbs, not going to happen

 

[Falco]

Adelaide make out like bandits in that scenario and Carlton lose Pick 2 and Gibbs, not going to happen

Good point - updated.

Adelaide are going to have to give something else to Carlton - a second rounder for Gibbs?

 

[WCErevival]

2 and GovJu for Gaff? I dont think so.

 

[Jootube]

Would trade Gaff for Gov Jr (+ pick swap) in a heartbeat.
No pick swap = no deal.
Example: Our 3rd for Adelaide's first? I would pay for Gaff's flight myself.