2017 trade/draft thread

[Carbine Chaos]

I'm really keen to explore Rockliff as a FA. Think he's exactly what we need.

 

[liam123]

Would people be happy with:

Retire: Giles priddis, lecras, butler, mitchell, McInness

Trade out: Masten(4th rounder) gaff(1st rounder) schoey(3rd rounder),

Free agents: eMac (3rd round compo?)

These changes would significantly change the age profile of our list and bring in a bunch of fresh faces to try and reboot (5 picks in the first three rounds). Time to recruit some campaigners

??

 

[Quinz]

IF you could get a first for Gaff... maybe. I'm still not keen on trading him out.

 

[kranky al]

Ridd us

Club were up fron tiwh Sinclair - they weren't going to pay as much or offer as long a contract as Sydney for a ruck 3.

english mate

On this board we speak english not welsh

 

[kranky al]

I'm really keen to explore Rockliff as a FA. Think he's exactly what we need.

Brisbane

The west coast midfield development sub club

Have we gamed the system or what

We have east perth and brisbane as our 2's

 

[kranky al]

Their point was also invalid.

If it wasn't completely irrelevant to this thread, which is about this upcoming trade period and not what we hypothetically could have done six or seven years ago, and if I hadn't already pointed it out several times previously, I'd point out that it's a complete fantasy that we could have gotten anything of value for Priddis, or Masten, or any other whipping boy de jour, because neither Gold Coast nor GWS were at all interested in giving up anything of value for existing players in their first couple of years. They got a handful of mature players as free agents and they very occasionally traded in key position players like Warnock and Gilham for minor pick swaps and that was it.

But it's completely irrelevant to the thread so I won't bother pointing it out.

Actually clubs offered them their second and third stringers trying to kick loose some of their top draft pick / 17 year old concessions and gold coast / gws told them politely no.

Name one top shelf player that was rejected?

 

[Quinz]

Actually clubs offered them their second and third stringers trying to kick loose some of their top draft pick / 17 year old concessions and gold coast / gws told them politely no.

Name one top shelf player that was rejected?

Priddis has never been a top shelf player tho...

 

[ArdentEagle]

Whatever loose change the guys had in the bottom of their footy bags and a Golden shower from Here2tellyouwhy

Edit for accuracy...This is closer to the truth..Too far?

 

[ArdentEagle]

I'm really keen to explore Rockliff as a FA. Think he's exactly what we need.

 

[Godfather32]

Whatever loose change the guys had in the bottom of their footy bags and a Gatorade shower

 

[sey666]

We should offer Daniel Menzel a 2-3 year deal. He has done better (36 goals at 2.3 goals per game) than all our forwards bar Kennedy. Won't cost us anything in terms of draft picks.

 

[kranky al]

Priddis has never been a top shelf player tho...

That would be the crux of the matter wouldnt it

Be interesting to have seen after his brownlow year exactly how highly other clubs rated him at the trade table.


With 20/20 hindsight i think id have traded nn to gws - we could have absolutely cleaned up with nn

 

[pantskyle]

We should look at signing the better players in the league.

 

[Godfather32]

We should offer Daniel Menzel a 2-3 year deal. He has done better (36 goals at 2.3 goals per game) than all our forwards bar Kennedy. Won't cost us anything in terms of draft picks.

Seems very odd that Geelong aren't going to offer him a contract, I thought he was nearly 30 but he's only just about to turn 26 next month.

 

[Godfather32]

We should look at signing the better players in the league.

*As long as they have half back flank potential

 

[kranky al]

*As long as they have half back flank potential

Pffft potential

We pick goat hbfers not "potentials"

 

[Chris_6678]

Seems very odd that Geelong aren't going to offer him a contract, I thought he was nearly 30 but he's only just about to turn 26 next month.

Thought the same thing the other day. Wasn't he one of their up and coming stars? I mean yes he has struggled with his knees but he is back on track and having a decent year.

 

[sey666]

Seems very odd that Geelong aren't going to offer him a contract, I thought he was nearly 30 but he's only just about to turn 26 next month.

Yeah very odd. Kicked 69 goals in 34 games since the start of 2016 which is better than what Darling, Lecras, Cripps or Hill has done for the past 2 seasons.

 

[Obeanie1]

Better chance this year than any other year of late.

Priddis and mitchell are gone - leaves a big vacuum

We have the likes of Petrie, Mitchell, Simo and other Vics selling the advantages. A state of the art stadium to walk them around, new training facilities within 12 months and bucket loads of cash. With the right trades and drafting we will be right in the mix for finals.

So yes not a bad time to attract tallent.

 

[Godfather32]

Thought the same thing the other day. Wasn't he one of their up and coming stars? I mean yes he has struggled with his knees but he is back on track and having a decent year.

Yeah very odd. Kicked 69 goals in 34 games since the start of 2016 which is better than what Darling, Lecras, Cripps or Hill has done for the past 2 seasons.

Wonder if they know something we don't about his injuries. It's weird that they would stick by him for so many years, he finally gets back to playing some decent and fairly consistent football and then they don't even offer him a contract. Something not right here.

 

[Chris_6678]

Wonder if they know something we don't about his injuries. It's weird that they would stick by him for so many years, he finally gets back to playing some decent and fairly consistent football and then they don't even offer him a contract. Something not right here.

Possible they have offered him a one year deal and he wants a lot more?

 

[Godfather32]

Possible they have offered him a one year deal and he wants a lot more?

Apparently been no offer at all, but this might shed some light on it:
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-08-24/no-new-deal-for-dan-its-down-to-gazza

 

[RookiePick]

Is it just me or does it seem like
Karpany and mutimer are pretty average footballers and won't cut it??
Or have we not seen enough of them to make a call?

Our development is pretty suspect so it's hard to know where these fringe guys are at in the clubs view.

Karpany - I'm just worried his combination of timidness and slight build is going to make it hard for him to succeed at AFL level. Really needs a mongrel injection if he is going to battle to get 15 touches. Seems a confidence player and needs to hit the weights if he wants to succeed.

Mutimer - Growing into a fair sized body and the bulk cost him run in his AFL matches from what I saw. Got into some dangerous spots and had a good number of shots for a youngster in our HHF death-trap position but let him self down with poor defensive running. Definitely worth persisting with and looks like he could give us a much harder edge around the ball in time.

Our midfield was very dysfunctional this year in most ways. I think that makes it tougher for the fringe guys when they get a crack in the seniors as our whole game plan is under duress from the get go.

 

[Chris_6678]

Our development is pretty suspect so it's hard to know where these fringe guys are at in the clubs view.

Karpany - I'm just worried his combination of timidness and slight build is going to make it hard for him to succeed at AFL level. Really needs a mongrel injection if he is going to battle to get 15 touches. Seems a confidence player and needs to hit the weights if he wants to succeed.

Mutimer - Growing into a fair sized body and the bulk cost him run in his AFL matches from what I saw. Got into some dangerous spots and had a good number of shots for a youngster in our HHF death-trap position but let him self down with poor defensive running. Definitely worth persisting with and looks like he could give us a much harder edge around the ball in time.

Our midfield was very dysfunctional this year in most ways. I think that makes it tougher for the fringe guys when they get a crack in the seniors as our whole game plan is under duress from the get go.

With Mitchell and Priddis both out next year that at least opens up two spots for a player like Muitmer/Snadden/Venables/Partington to be given a chance in the center. Where as this year Muitmer and Partington have been played on the HHF.

 

[swingdog]

Apparently been no offer at all, but this might shed some light on it:
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-08-24/no-new-deal-for-dan-its-down-to-gazza

We should definitely be helping them out.