2017 trade/draft thread

[Monocle]

Surely we can so something with Gaff and our first and their second to bolster our position. If we can maximise our top 30 position and give up later picks (third and fourth round) then we can bank three good picks and then go deep in the ND and RD.

Agree.
However I want a pick in the top 10 so that we get a genuine midfielder, sure after that consolidate as many top 30 picks as we can get.

 

[Monocle]

Let them have all them. We need mids and small fwds. We should focus on Acres, Mountford and Matera of the WA lads wanting to return home.

And in that order.

 

[Brave Sir Robin]

Colyer runs faster than he can think - sure his pace is good but he's a sloppy footballer. If Myers gives us depth that's kind of not addressing the problem we have - OK depth but not enough top end talent.

If that's what we're talking about for Gaff I'm not really interested. Trading Gaff has to give us a shot at an A-grader.

 

[avishka5]

To be fair, Myers gives you that depth your fans are crying out for and Colyer gives you some serious leg speed.

The deal clincher (in Dodoro's eyes) is the first round pick on offer (currently pick 12)

We are in the verge of a rebuild and we don't need depth players. Myers would probably wouldn't be there in 4 years time or so. Colyer is a cream on top of the cake sort of player again. No thanks and I pass. Gaff is hugely underrated by eagles fans and when he is at his best we tend to win and he is a vital cog of our midfield. I want a high pick that would get me a probable elite player.

 

[Falco]

Agree.
However I want a pick in the top 10 so that we get a genuine midfielder, sure after that consolidate as many top 30 picks as we can get.

Agree - a scenario I put up earlier had us coming out with 4, 8, 27, 66, 84. You'd be happy with that.

 

[new breed]

Jake Patmore rising in the draft stakes maybe .....

Claremont Colts v SD rd 22 ...48 disposals 26 k 22h

Sounds like Fremantle are interested with Brad Lloyd being quizzed about him recently on Footy WA , could be a handy wingman down the track .

https://thewest.com.au/sport/wafl/wa-draft-watch-jake-patmore-bc-5505617633001

 

[Yoda_]

Nice input and interested if the rumour has credibility. I would be OK with Colyer and your first for Gaff and our second but that is about it.

If you want to off-load Myers, I would consider Masten for Myers.

As said this is all second hand info that apparently West Coast have put Gaff up for trade. Would not be at all surprised to see him traded if you could garner a first for him

 

[Yoda_]

ATG I would take what Yoda_ posted as good information as he is a reliable long standing source of info.
I get the idea of trading Gaff if either he has indicated or the Club feels he may be off at the end of his contract after next season.

Their first rounder plus a player would be a good start ....and if a more complexed trade involved Masten to the Dons that would be even better.

thanks for the kind words Mon

As Falco said, it would essentially be a band aid solution but the Eagles have shown there hand with the recruitments of Lewis Jetta, Drew Petrie and even those homesick boys (Sharrod Wellingham, Elliot Yeo, Jamie Cripps) in recent years. The guys in question would be clear best 22 who may not be top end talent (Myers is still in the very borderline of becoming a very good AFL player) but both would be upgrades on what you have currently in your side (in 2018 anyways).

 

[bl4ke]

Trade rumour floating that West Coast Eagles have put Andrew Gaff on the trade table in order to gain another high draft pick.

Essendon were the first to make contact but were politely asked for David Myers (190cm big bodied inside midfielder) and Trav Colyer (174cm lightening quick outside runner) plus the addition of our first rounder with something coming back our way (presumably be your second - [28])


Not sure I would do it to be perfectly honest, both key ingredients to our current best 22 but Andrew Gaff would offset the loss of Colyer.


Both W.A boys

East Perth would love that trade

 

[avishka5]

thanks for the kind words Mon

As Falco said, it would essentially be a band aid solution but the Eagles have shown there hand with the recruitments of Lewis Jetta, Drew Petrie and even those homesick boys (Sharrod Wellingham, Elliot Yeo, Jamie Cripps) in recent years. The guys in question would be clear best 22 who may not be top end talent (Myers is still in the very borderline of becoming a very good AFL player) but both would be upgrades on what you have currently in your side (in 2018 anyways).

Other than Petrie we really haven't gone for players around 30 or older. We are no longer a contender so I doubt we would look at a 28 year old.

Cripps was 21 when he came to us, Weller's was 24, redden was 25, Jetta was 26, Yeo was 20 and Hill was 22. All these guys were in their early 20's to mid 20's

 

[Falco]

thanks for the kind words Mon

As Falco said, it would essentially be a band aid solution but the Eagles have shown there hand with the recruitments of Lewis Jetta, Drew Petrie and even those homesick boys (Sharrod Wellingham, Elliot Yeo, Jamie Cripps) in recent years. The guys in question would be clear best 22 who may not be top end talent (Myers is still in the very borderline of becoming a very good AFL player) but both would be upgrades on what you have currently in your side (in 2018 anyways).

Fair point - but the approach may be different in the admission that we are seeking to continue to rebuild our midfield via the draft. Simpson has been getting more traction in building the team towards his vision, but recruiting hasn't been supporting him very well. The problem is that Wellers, Yeo and Cripps were all younger than both Myers and Colyer. If we elect to pursue a rebuild in the next two years, then these guys aren't going to be attractive to us. I can't see us being interested unless it was something like 12 + Mutch for Gaff, which is probably not attractive to you.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Gaff and pick 28 for Acres and pick 7?

Gives us a top-10 pick (with two in the top 12) and a young best-22 player.

 

[Bender_]

Is Acres an inside contested bull though?

Coz that's what we need, 22 of them. 22 inside contested bulls.

 

[dajesmac]

Gaff and #28 for Myers, Colyer and #12...I'm not keen on that at all.

For a start I'd say keep Colyer and we'll hang on to 28. Then it's Myers and #12 for Gaff.

We'd really want to nail that pick to make it worth it.

 

[jesterwester]

Gaff and pick 28 for Acres and pick 7?

Gives us a top-10 pick (with two in the top 12) and a young best-22 player.

If Gaff wanted out- that would be as good a trade as what we could ask for.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Is Acres an inside contested bull though?

Coz that's what we need, 22 of them. 22 inside contested bulls.

If we're losing Gaff we'll need some outside run.

 

[dajesmac]

Gaff and pick 28 for Acres and pick 7?

Gives us a top-10 pick (with two in the top 12) and a young best-22 player.

This is more palatable. If you break it down it'd be:

Gaff -> Pick 7
Pick 28 -> Acres

St Kilda would probably baulk at that deal, but it does help that they do have a second top ten pick in their pocket.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

This is more palatable. If you break it down it'd be:

Gaff -> Pick 7
Pick 28 -> Acres

St Kilda would probably baulk at that deal, but it does help that they do have a second top ten pick in their pocket.

I'd even take pick 8 and let them choose first, a fair chance they go tall with that pick so they wouldn't be taking the guy we want.

 

[Bender_]

If we're losing Gaff we'll need some outside run.

As long as they're inside/outside contested bull runners I'll allow it.

 

[dajesmac]

I'd even take pick 8 and let them choose first, a fair chance they go tall with that pick so they wouldn't be taking the guy we want.

Yeah I think we'd be a better chance at acquiring #8.

I don't think Gaff will leave personally. But if we turned him into Blake Acres, Hunter Clark and one of Jack Higgins or Sam Hayes in the draft we'd have done well.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

thanks for the kind words Mon

As Falco said, it would essentially be a band aid solution but the Eagles have shown there hand with the recruitments of Lewis Jetta, Drew Petrie and even those homesick boys (Sharrod Wellingham, Elliot Yeo, Jamie Cripps) in recent years. The guys in question would be clear best 22 who may not be top end talent (Myers is still in the very borderline of becoming a very good AFL player) but both would be upgrades on what you have currently in your side (in 2018 anyways).

Thanks for the input - not a wild idea.

In terms of Myers, he feels like he is borderline best 22 at present and not borderline becoming a very good AFL player so I am feeling meh about him. I am not sure why our list manager would rate him. Colyer looks to be a solid AFL in the same way our Cripps is solid and has pace which may elevate him slightly.

Let's watch on. Like others, I think St Kilda are the team I would like to do business with this year. I see Gaff at St Kilda as a more urgent need.

 

[Yoda_]

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Thanks for the input - not a wild idea.

In terms of Myers, he feels like he is borderline best 22 at present and not borderline becoming a very good AFL player so I am feeling meh about him. I am not sure why our list manager would rate him. Colyer looks to be a solid AFL in the same way our Cripps is solid and has pace which may elevate him slightly.

Let's watch on. Like others, I think St Kilda are the team I would like to do business with this year. I see Gaff at St Kilda as a more urgent need.

All comes down to where the WCE feel the list is at. With the best KPF in the game (Josh Kennedy), arguarbly the best (when fit) ruck in the game (Nic Naitanui) and a plethora of running utilities at their disposal, do they feel they are close to a flag?

If so, players of the calibre of Colyer and Myers would be much more valuable than that of draft picks.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Yeah I think we'd be a better chance at acquiring #8.

I don't think Gaff will leave personally. But if we turned him into Blake Acres, Hunter Clark and one of Jack Higgins or Sam Hayes in the draft we'd have done well.

A draft where we lose Gaff and pick 28 while getting in Acres, Hunter Clarke, Jack Higgins/Andrew Brayshaw for me. Hayes still has not proven he is more than a ruck and hence reluctance to go for him in R1 unless late teens.

 

[Wadsworth]

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All comes down to where the WCE feel the list is at. With the best KPF in the game (Josh Kennedy), arguarbly the best (when fit) ruck in the game (Nic Naitanui) and a plethora of running utilities at their disposal, do they feel they are close to a flag?

If so, players of the calibre of Gaff would be much more valuable than that of draft picks.

Fixed it for yah.

I know you're only passing on information... and it makes good discussion. But I don't like the trade for us.

 

[dajesmac]

A draft where we lose Gaff and pick 28 while getting in Acres, Hunter Clarke, Jack Higgins/Andrew Brayshaw for me. Hayes still has not proven he is more than a ruck and hence reluctance to go for him in R1 unless late teens.

Fair call on Hayes although I do have a preference for not waiting until the 40s before looking at a KPF.

If Brander slid I wouldn't be opposed to us pulling the trigger if we have a second first rounder. Granted, he may also be a KPD at he next level.