2017 trade/draft thread

[WCErevival]

His skill dropped off and with the rise of plenty of HBF options means Wellers isn't required. Duggan almost single handedly killed his career. He turns 30 net year too so is no spring chicken

 

[CM9000]

His skill dropped off and with the rise of plenty of HBF options means Wellers isn't required. Duggan almost single handedly killed his career. He turns 30 net year too so is no spring chicken

If he's become obsolete as a HBF, why don't we try him in the midfield then? It's what we recruited him for.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

I just don't get the Acres love...

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Don't get the Acres love yet this is the same person who volunteered to be sponsor WA Ink!!!!

 

[bh90210fan]

Isn't That exactly what the Pies recruited him for ?

The pies have a bog average forward line and I think Mayne was expected to kick more goals for them with his big contract. At WC we don't need him to kick plenty of goals just provide some depth and experience if Lecras and Hill are gone. Would probably prefer Lecras to play another year but the problem with that is he might not be willing to play with EP and we end up with another Priddis situation

 

[Monocle]

I disagree strongly with this assessment of Wellers. His attack on the footy has been manic, particularly at the start of the season.

His disposal is what has really dropped off in my opinion. He made a lot of good play to win the ball and then gave the ball straight back which is frustrating to watch.

The whole side has dropped the standard of skill execution since 2015 and is the main reason we look like an also ran currently.

Well then lets agree to disagree.

His disposal has dropped of because he doesn't concentrate and just bangs it on his boot and that to me is an indication of lack of desire and intent...ala just going through the motions. Note the times he has kicked out on the full because of his nonchalant attitude.

When he goes on a run he doesn't go all the way and accepts that after he has run 30 meters he has done his job and then just kicks it further down the ground for someone else to do their bit.

When Wellers was at his best he agressively ran the lines to the limit and broke games open.... its been a long time since he has done that.

 

[former lurker]

The pies have a bog average forward line and I think Mayne was expected to kick more goals for them with his big contract. At WC we don't need him to kick plenty of goals just provide some depth and experience if Lecras and Hill are gone. Would probably prefer Lecras to play another year but the problem with that is he might not be willing to play with EP and we end up with another Priddis situation

Reading the Herald sun, Mayne was recruited for his manic like pressure to lock the ball in. Which I admit has its appeal. Lecca, isn't what he was, but he is still a very clever and classy forward. Unfairly maligned on this board I think.

 

[boondy]

Marsden for Colyer it will be

 

[The Gov]

A no from me. Motlop is too inconsistent for my liking. We have a job to eradicate the "Downhill Skiers" mentality and he would be more of the same.

Masten isn't best 22 atm so being an upgrade on him isn't saying much. Motlop would be in better shape than Lecras but Lecras has about twice the output in front of goals even with his poor season this year. I don't think he would be worth getting.

He has the potential to be very very good though - a change of environment might suit him and at his best he's pacy, fast and dangerous - qualities that are lacking in our side. Lots of talk on here about getting Mayne - Motlop surely has a higher ceiling and certainly has more midfield ability than a player who can't break into a forward line worse than ours. He's also regularly getting games in a stronger side than we are currently even though he's down on form.

It sounds like a lot of list spots will open up (potentially up to 8) and they can't all be filled with draft picks - at worst he'll be a downhill skier that is in and out of the side but at best he could be electrifying for us (a similar description to Wellers and Jetta but unlike those two wouldn't cost us draft picks)

We have salary cap space to burn.. not worth a punt at least?

 

[Beutbrute]

Whoever Marsden joins is my new favourite team.

The good news is they already have a forum AND they are located West of the western suburbs
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/forums/fremantle.23/

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

He has the potential to be very very good though - a change of environment might suit him and at his best he's pacy, fast and dangerous - qualities that are lacking in our side. Lots of talk on here about getting Mayne - Motlop surely has a higher ceiling and certainly has more midfield ability than a player who can't break into a forward line worse than ours. He's also regularly getting games in a stronger side than we are currently even though he's down on form.

It sounds like a lot of list spots will open up (potentially up to 8) and they can't all be filled with draft picks - at worst he'll be a downhill skier that is in and out of the side but at best he could be electrifying for us (a similar description to Wellers and Jetta but unlike those two wouldn't cost us draft picks)

We have salary cap space to burn.. not worth a punt at least?

It was asked did people see a desire for Mayne. The answer was NO from me. I would rather be getting games into Venables or Waterman or Partington or Karpany than to be giving games to Mayne.

It was never asked would I prefer Motlop to Mayne. I am not sure who I wouldn't prefer to Mayne so it feel like a very different question. If getting Motlop would bring a player offering inconsistency and possible high upside, I think we a few of them already. If 2018 is the year to speculate, then lets promote Frankie Watson to the senior list and see where it takes us.

 

[Jimmy_the_Gent]

Hey Monocle, do you have any idea of Jordan Boullineau's draft range?

Does he have a draft range?

 

[Monocle]

Hey Monocle, do you have any idea of Jordan Boullineau's draft range?

Does he have a draft range?

Undrafted.

 

[Eaglespur]

Motlop or Lecca

 

[Biggie]

Motlop or Lecca

Venables.

Rioli

 

[Jimmy_the_Gent]

Undrafted.

Man WA is thin on talent this year.

How many guys are we looking at getting picked up excluding mature agers? Like 5?

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Man WA is thin on talent this year.

How many guys are we looking at getting picked up excluding mature agers? Like 5?

WA Talent should see around 7 players drafted - rough guide as follows:

Aaron Naughton - KPD and likely to go first round, may even be top 10
Oscar Allen - Lark Medallist and KPF. If he grows another 3 cm, a late 1st round to early second round. More like a 3rd tall at present
Sam Taylor - old fashioned lock down full back and he is a late second rounder to third rounder for me

distance

Ben Miller - KPF/ruck and a late pick
Jake Patmore - midfielder at the 3rd to 4th round
Brandon Starcevich - HF/midfield at the 5th round to rookie
Callum England - midfielder at the 5th round to rookie

distance

Jonathon Frampton - ruck as a rookie
Christian Ameduri - midfield and a rookie

Names to look out for next year - Jarrad Fazioli, Ian Hill, Louis Miller

 

[avishka5]

WA Talent should see around 7 players drafted - rough guide as follows:

Aaron Naughton - KPD and likely to go first round, may even be top 10
Oscar Allen - Lark Medallist and KPF. If he grows another 3 cm, a late 1st round to early second round. More like a 3rd tall at present
Sam Taylor - old fashioned lock down full back and he is a late second rounder to third rounder for me

distance

Ben Miller - KPF/ruck and a late pick
Jake Patmore - midfielder at the 3rd to 4th round
Brandon Starcevich - HF/midfield at the 5th round to rookie
Callum England - midfielder at the 5th round to rookie

distance

Jonathon Frampton - ruck as a rookie
Christian Ameduri - midfield and a rookie

Names to look out for next year - Jarrad Fazioli, Ian Hill, Louis Miller

im assuming thats only the 18/19 year olds.

 

[Monocle]

Man WA is thin on talent this year.

How many guys are we looking at getting picked up excluding mature agers? Like 5?

Yes it is and that was always well known and it paints Sumich in a very good light for getting the squad to perform so well given the thin talent base.

Suggest those that will go from WA are:

Will be drafted: Allen, Naughton, Taylor, Patmore. ( 4 )

Good to fair chance of being drafted late or a rookie spot : Ainsworth, Hayden, Miller , England. ( Maybe 3 of these )

Long shots - un drafted: Starcevich, Young, Stewart, Ameduri , Boullineau. ( suggest they all miss out ).

 

[Monocle]

im assuming thats only the 18/19 year olds.

Vishy See Below.

Man WA is thin on talent this year.

How many guys are we looking at getting picked up excluding mature agers? Like 5?

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

im assuming thats only the 18/19 year olds.

I only included the players turning 18 by 31 Dec 1999. I expect there will be some others that were overlooked in 2016 - eg Banfield who turns 19 in 2017

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Yes it is and that was always well known and it paints Sumich in a very good light for getting the squad to perform so well given the thin talent base.

Suggest those that will go from WA are:

Will be drafted: Allen, Naughton, Taylor, Patmore. ( 4 )

Good to fair chance of being drafted late or a rookie spot : Ainsworth, Hayden, Miller , England. ( Maybe 3 of these )

Long shots - un drafted: Starcevich, Young, Stewart, Ameduri , Boullineau. ( suggest they all miss out ).

Sumich was talking up Starcevich just after the carnival - not sure how much sway Sumo would hold but he was obviously keen on him for the draft.

I am probably with you on being a long shot. One good thing about Kyron Hayden is that he had a very Martinesque "Don't argue" and this attribute is certainly in fashion.

If we go again with a Gorter style East Perth rookie, I would be OK with Ameduri. He has a little more physicality to his game compared to his brother and would be worth a rookie slot - preferably Gorter's spot!

 

[Monocle]

Sumich was talking up Starcevich just after the carnival - not sure how much sway Sumo would hold but he was obviously keen on him for the draft.

I am probably with you on being a long shot. One good thing about Kyron Hayden is that he had a very Martinesque "Don't argue" and this attribute is certainly in fashion.

If we go again with a Gorter style East Perth rookie, I would be OK with Ameduri. He has a little more physicality to his game compared to his brother and would be worth a rookie slot - preferably Gorter's spot!

I like the way this kid goes about his game and he fills the tough inside extractor role that we need, with also being able to link up on the outside when needed.

 

[bl4ke]

Does anyone know how Damien Cavka has gone this year? Has he been playing for Balwyn?

 

[avishka5]

since fivey put his unrealistic trade in, im gonna put mine.We get travis cloke and play him at CHF/back up ruck and let JD play third tall.

 

[paran]

Stupid question time. Would people be interested in obtaining the out of favour Chris Mayne from Collingwood in these circumstances:
- LeCras retires
- Hill is delisted
- Collingwood exchange him for a packet of chips
- Collingwood agree to pay a chunk of his hefty salary, since it's their fault after all.

At his best he can help provide the sort of pressure inside 50 that we've struggled to generate all year, and Rioli, Karpany and even the messiah Ryan probably aren't going to have a huge impact in that regard. He can also be dangerous enough to command a decent defender.

I feel like I'm Mayne's old man trying to sell him to Buckley but I think under those circumstances he'd be worth a look.

Do you owe him money?? We'd just keep Hill wouldn't we?!