2017 trade/draft thread

[Agent93]

Can quite easily front end the contracts and then that spare cap is brought forward a year or 2.

You'd hope that there are some contracted players on the list earning significantly more in 2018 than in 2019.

Mitchell wouldn't have been on massive dollars and priddis. Who knows.

That runs counter to a lot of the arguments made previously; in that with Mitchell and Priddis' retirement we now have significantly more salary space available under the cap for 2018. You're right, who knows? Can't have it both ways. My gut feel is we re-sign Wellingham in order for salary floor compliance, and if we don't it is because we're harder up against the cap than most perceive.

 

[flyinghi64]

Dont kid yourself

Nicnat is the difference not plodding mids

Sam mitchells a superstar - priddis is a brownlow winner. We still did sfa.

Teams are forced to structure defensively against us with nn - or he’ll just grab it and run.

If hes beaten - we are easier to beat.

What you are suggesting is the prototype midfield from years ago - footy has changed - yes we arent going to get a danger/ fyfe / dusty from trading - yes we can from the draft.

And now with the no 3rd man up rule how much better and important will his around the ground ruck work going to be.

 

[The wily weagle]

We have one sole pick in the first 30 draft selections, so i am not sure how exactly we are going to regenerate our list short of snagging an absolute superstar with our first rounder.

Its a limbo position to be in, wanting to rejuvenate our list via drafting, but failing to trade anyone to improve either our draft position or total number of draft selections.

And if we end up having to use pick 31 to draft Ah Chee, then we are left with one "live" draft choice.

 

[Jootube]

We have one sole pick in the first 30 draft selections, so i am not sure how exactly we are going to regenerate our list short of snagging an absolute superstar with our first rounder.

Its a limbo position to be in, wanting to rejuvenate our list via drafting, but failing to trade anyone to improve either our draft position or total number of draft selections.

And if we end up having to use pick 31 to draft Ah Chee, then we are left with one "live" draft choice.

The current negotiation is pick 49 (Ports request) or pick 68 (Eagles request). 0% chance that 31 is traded for Ah Chee

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

We have one sole pick in the first 30 draft selections, so i am not sure how exactly we are going to regenerate our list short of snagging an absolute superstar with our first rounder.

Its a limbo position to be in, wanting to rejuvenate our list via drafting, but failing to trade anyone to improve either our draft position or total number of draft selections.

And if we end up having to use pick 31 to draft Ah Chee, then we are left with one "live" draft choice.

We're reportedly currently haggling with Port over whether we give them pick 48 or pick 66, so I don't know how 31 comes into it.

Did you end up working out a way we could trade up other than by having a fire sale on Gaff, or are you still stuck on that as the sole way we improve our position?

 

[Mickey Rae]

A broken watch is right once a day.

Would that be a digital watch set to the 24 hour time mode?

 

[Dark Sharks]

31 doesn't come into it gaiz

 

[bh90210fan]

For some reason I can imagine these sort of scenes around the trade table this week

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

If the Bulldogs got 24 and 29 from essendon for Stringer, we could trade 13 for 24 and 29.

I personally wouldn't do that, I'd rather keep 13. But apparently getting as many picks as possible in the top 30 is the all important measure.

 

[The wily weagle]

We're reportedly currently haggling with Port over whether we give them pick 48 or pick 66, so I don't know how 31 comes into it.

Did you end up working out a way we could trade up other than by having a fire sale on Gaff, or are you still stuck on that as the sole way we improve our position?

In regards to the trading of Gaff, i can see no other way of greatly improving our draft position short of doing something radical, and that would have to entail something like putting Gov on the trade table, which we should never, ever do.

The only other option would be to roll the dice and perhaps trade with another club our first rounder next year for another first rounder this year (or vice versa if next years draft is indeed meant to be stronger).

I cant see that happening either, our list managment dont strike me as the most proactive bunch.

Thus, i am resigned to praying that our first selection this year is an absolute an utter gun, because if they aint 2018 probably isnt shaping as a premiership year

 

[Jootube]

If the Bulldogs got 24 and 29 from essendon for Stringer, we could trade 13 for 24 and 29.

I personally wouldn't do that, I'd rather keep 13. But apparently getting as many picks as possible in the top 30 is the all important measure.

This is why we need draft-day trading.
Imagine if we could offer that deal after we know that Higgins/Clark/Brayshaw were all gone by 13?

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

So? That will be done, but all the space that may or may not exist doesn't matter if can't get anyone in. If get ah Chee could front load if we are actually under, but I doubt we are that far under anyway. Mitchell wouldn't have been on massive dollars and priddis. Who knows.

Mitchell was on 600k with 200 paid by Hawks, so we paid him 400, and Priddis I assume was probably around 600. Can't see him being any less after winning the brownlow.

 

[WCE_phil]

This is why we need draft-day trading.
Imagine if we could offer that deal after we know that Higgins/Clark/Brayshaw were all gone by 13?

It would make all the difference in the world. If you go to the draft and the main targets you want are off the table you can then look to trade etc.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

In regards to the trading of Gaff, i can see no other way of greatly improving our draft position short of doing something radical, and that would have to entail something like putting Gov on the trade table, which we should never, ever do.

The only other option would be to roll the dice and perhaps trade with another club our first rounder next year for another first rounder this year (or vice versa if next years draft is indeed meant to be stronger).

I cant see that happening either, our list managment dont strike me as the most proactive bunch.

Thus, i am resigned to praying that our first selection this year is an absolute an utter gun, because if they aint 2018 probably isnt shaping as a premiership year

Think that's a harsh assessment of the list management group. We've done as many pick-swap trades as any other club in recent times.

And again, our best two seasons in the past decade have come after offseasons where we made no meaningful trades - 2011 and 2015. So I don't buy into this theory you share with Damien Barrett that we absolutely have to sell players and make moves next week to have any hope next year.

 

[darksquare]

So, besides Ah chee.

What are we gonna do?

We're going to: get Naitanui and Lycett back; put Redden and Sheed in the middle; add Rioli to a forward pocket and Venables to a flank; draft a good and hopefully quick midfielder with our first rounder; draft a good and hopefully quick midfielder with our second-rounder; look for some value at the back end of the draft; continue to develop the young players on our list, at least some of whom will likely make the grade.

If there were midfielders or forwards with an interest in coming to us, then sure, I'd have looked at Acres, Mountford, Fasolo, Matera, Cameron. But Ah Chee it is...


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[Feeling Groovy]

Supposedly Daniel Robinson wants out of Sydney for more opportunity. I can't say I even remember him but he is a mid. Is he any good? Any thoughts? Not raising to suggest we should be interested, just have no recollection of who he even is or whether he offers anything.

 

[DanWCE]

Guys I'm hearing pick 31 doesn't come into it

 

[swannies]

Jenkins and Walker are Darling level. Cameron is better than the rest of what we have and Betts is only slightly worse than Kennedy.

Yet combined, what did they do in the GF? Not a lot. All bark, before and after the GF, so I'll give them that, they talk a good game.

I shouldn't be surprised at how half of this board wants to be another club's supporters, but I am.

 

[The wily weagle]

Think that's a harsh assessment of the list management group. We've done as many pick-swap trades as any other club in recent times.

And again, our best two seasons in the past decade have come after offseasons where we made no meaningful trades - 2011 and 2015. So I don't buy into this theory you share with Damien Barrett that we absolutely have to sell players and make moves next week to have any hope next year.

We will have to wait and see i suppose. I kind of consider the overall quality of our list very close to that of Ports, so if they rocket into legitimate premiership contention on the back of very aggressive player movement and trading, whilst we effectively twiddle our thumbs so to speak, that will speak volumes.

Personally, i definitely think we should be being WAY more proactive, so 2018 will either make me an accurate assessor of our list, or make a liar out of me.

I await with interest. Lets hope my gut feel of our teams prospects next year is incorrect.

 

[Dark Sharks]

Supposedly Daniel Robinson wants out of Sydney for more opportunity. I can't say I even remember him but he is a mid. Is he any good? Any thoughts? Not raising to suggest we should be interested, just have no recollection of who he even is or whether he offers anything.

Just like Xavier Richards, he's an absolute nobody.

Not sure what it is with these fringe Sydney players randomly saying they want a trade despite having next to no currency. Last time Richards thought he was worth something after playing in a grand final, 6 months later he was off Sydney's list and playing for a university team.

Robinson should probably just pipe down and be thankful for the opportunity he has.

 

[Eaglespur]

Yet combined, what did they do in the GF? Not a lot. All bark, before and after the GF, so I'll give them that, they talk a good game.

I shouldn't be surprised at how half of this board wants to be another club's supporters, but I am.

They did about the same as what our forwards did in 2015 grand final haha whats your point ? i am a shit supporter because i am not extremely bias and rate opposition players ?

 

[Bacchus]

We have one sole pick in the first 30 draft selections, so i am not sure how exactly we are going to regenerate our list short of snagging an absolute superstar with our first rounder.

Its a limbo position to be in, wanting to rejuvenate our list via drafting, but failing to trade anyone to improve either our draft position or total number of draft selections.

And if we end up having to use pick 31 to draft Ah Chee, then we are left with one "live" draft choice.

We absolutely would not be using #31 on Ah Chee, all reports I've read PA only asking for the third round pick. If we give up the 3rd round pick we may miss out on Ryan, Starcevich or someone like that.

 

[swannies]

They did about the same as what our forwards did in 2015 grand final haha whats your point ? i am a shit supporter because i am not extremely bias and rate opposition players ?

Whilst I used your post I wasn't actually having a go at you per se. My point is a lot of supporters seem to want the eagles to be a different team, which I find rather odd.
Good luck to them for getting into a GF, but it had been 20 years since they were in one. Right now they might be a bit better, but over the journey I wouldn't rather be them.

 

[WCEswift]

Starcevich

God yes please such a dog mid

 

[The Gov]

Dan Robinson from Swans has said he wants a trade for midfield opportunity, worth a look? Certainly fits the age bracket of players we'd want and is coming from a very good system of mids