List Mgmt. 2017 Trade & FA Targets Part 1

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Kelly would be a great fit for us, more problems than just his contract term and dollars paid.

Whoever he chooses has to get him out of gws, this could get ugly they will surely dig their heels in.

How attractive is he if you have to beat out north on money and pay up two first rounders?.

Think of what we could do with the cash and picks, I hope the saints cut quickly if things look like going south.

Show some love for Whitfield, Rockliff etc. inside ball winner, outside run and risk spread over two players.
 

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Kelly would be a great fit for us, more problems than just his contract term and dollars paid.

Whoever he chooses has to get him out of gws, this could get ugly they will surely dig their heels in.

How attractive is he if you have to beat out north on money and pay up two first rounders?.

Think of what we could do with the cash and picks, I hope the saints cut quickly if things look like going south.

Show some love for Whitfield, Rockliff etc. inside ball winner, outside run and risk spread over two players.
Is he out of contract? I think the difference with Boyd was that he was contracted and still tried to move. If he chooses a club they shouldn't make it too hard. Would probably cost the Hawks pick and maybe a future second rounder. He's a former number 2 pick and has ben developed so probably worth the cost as he's young and already shown enough to suggest he'll be A grade.
 

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Is he out of contract? I think the difference with Boyd was that he was contracted and still tried to move. If he chooses a club they shouldn't make it too hard. Would probably cost the Hawks pick and maybe a future second rounder. He's a former number 2 pick and has ben developed so probably worth the cost as he's young and already shown enough to suggest he'll be A grade.

Hawthorns pick could be around 6. That wont get it done even with a pick in the 30's in the next season. He was pick 2 and certainly hasn't gone backwards. If he keeps this form up he will cost 2 first rounders. Luckily we have 2 first rounders.
 

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Bit of a curve ball. Few posters on the doggies board (usually have good mail) think that we're meeting with Kelly in a few weeks

Not sure how it will go, we don't have the cap like St Kilda & Norf
Most Victorian teams would be meeting Kelly if there is a chance of him leaving GWS.
 

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glory be me 2 years 650 is the biggest slap in the face for their best mid
I think you're in with a big shot here, you would have to think the prospect of potentially joining a top 4 team on that kind of money is very enticing and then adding in the go home factor it makes it a perfect fit. Would fit in very well with your midfield imo, does anyone know if he's mates with Jack Steele?
 

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Is it though?

He's 21:22 and let's be honest has achieved close to **** all.

If Billings was to ask for more than 650k we'd tell him to **** off too. Yes I know Kelly is better than Billings but the point remains

650k over 3 years is about fair for him with him getting the Fyfe level contract if he continues to progress at 25/26
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This is from GWS' POV obviously. I'd happily give him 1m+ to get the campaigner at the saints.
650 a year isn't even close to fair for Kelly. He's overtaken Shiel as GWS' best midfielder, and at his age is only going to get better.
 

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Is it though?

He's 21:22 and let's be honest has achieved close to **** all.

If Billings was to ask for more than 650k we'd tell him to **** off too. Yes I know Kelly is better than Billings but the point remains

650k over 3 years is about fair for him with him getting the Fyfe level contract if he continues to progress at 25/26
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This is from GWS' POV obviously. I'd happily give him 1m+ to get the campaigner at the saints.
Nah Kelly's a different catagory to Billings, Kelly would be All Australian right now. The Kids already a superstar.
 
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The Friday before the GWS game I gave us close to no chance at Kelly. The Saturday afternoon after the the GWS game I started to think we're at least in the game.
Norths offer stupidly good and one we won't get near but maybe Kelly and his management have been shown how much more he could make if he came out of contract in 5 years time as the best mid in the game.
 

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The Friday before the GWS game I gave us close to no chance at Kelly. The Saturday afternoon after the the GWS game I started to think we're at least in the game.
Norths offer stupidly good and one we won't get near but maybe Kelly and his management have been shown how much more he could make if he came out of contract in 5 years time as the best mid in the game.

Why wouldn't we get near it if he was the only real star available. We have the money so that is no issue. Even the length shouldn't be an issue.
 
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9 over 9 is stupid for any player. That's an entire career. If he does his knee twice in that time there is no escape from that.

Imagine being stuck with a daisy Thomas contract for a player not worth it at the end of it.

Not saying that will happen to jelly but it's stupid to risk that. Give him 5 and reassess it then.
Thank god some sense is being spoken. Massive risk over 9 years.

I'd be happy and very comfortable to go around 5 over 5 years for Kelly, offer the similar contract (maybe a bit more) to Dusty. Find a way to keep the top 5 pick this year.

Get Kelly to back himself in to get a stronger contract once it expires (and when contracts naturally go up).

Norf may have the family connection but they've treated their champions like rubbish, have an average list and very little top talent. One player like Kelly wont make a difference and certainly wont have them finals bound.

We have his best mate, the best young list in the AFL, buckets of cash (on a shorter contract), and are searching for an icing type player to send us into the top 4.

We should be in the box seat to gain his signature. I hope this is the case.
 

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Maybe because he isn't the only star available for us

I know he isn't now but that was my point. He maybe by then. Imagine with all the money we have and we got money ball players instead of an out and out star because we wanted to give 5 years instead of a few more. If we frontload it we can have most of the risk in his first few years and bugger all in the later years.
 

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I wonder if Fyfe's form is down because it's weighing heavily on him that he's about to walk out on the team he's captaining, just as they're on the way up again- which will likely send them back down again?
Interesting theory.

If true, Freo winning games would make it worse for him. Fyfe has indicated he will stay if he sees improvement. No doubt Freo have improved.

If Fyfe leaves he will be pilloried because the club appears to be turning their fortunes around. Being Captain adds another layer of complexity.
 
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