List Mgmt. 2017 Trade & FA Targets Part 2

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Incorrect.

We got Jake at the end of 2015 but he's still here playing good footy.

What if we passed on Jelly and he goes to Norf and then 2 years later we're still cashed up but playing pissant finals that mean nothing and going nowhere?

You never ever pass on a talent like Kelly if he's available and willing to come. He's not just playing for 2018 then packing up! If you told that to Richo and the team that we shouldn't get a star player because the timing isn't 100% perfect what would they say?
Exactly.
It's not like the star we are trying to get only has two to three more years left in him. He's got at least 8 to 10 and you hope we'd be challenging in that time frame!!
Players like this are not just available all the time, and especially when we are in a position of strength salary cap wise etc. that we haven't ever been in before.
We have to strike while the iron is hot.
 

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Done deal Norf man ...take it to the bank,both will be Saints next year.
Haha cool
Seems every board is saying similar stuff.
Richmond swear Dusty is staying.
Some North people are bullush of luring Martin.
Kelly is even harder to pick.
I've heard Carlton, Saints and North are in the mix.
 

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Haha cool
Seems every board is saying similar stuff.
Richmond swear Dusty is staying.
Some North people are bullush of luring Martin.
Kelly is even harder to pick.
I've heard Carlton, Saints and North are in the mix.
Could pick either of those guys to go almost anywhere, no one actually has any idea. It's just a classic BigFooty shitfight of 'our list is better than yours so player x is coming here' lol
 

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Haha cool
Seems every board is saying similar stuff.
Richmond swear Dusty is staying.
Some North people are bullush of luring Martin.
Kelly is even harder to pick.
I've heard Carlton, Saints and North are in the mix.
They have both nominated us, but we knocked them back... it's a timing thing.
 

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Lol at A grade talent argument....no one ever said that, was always feature prominent in the draft, develop them and then trade in FA super talent

Roo contract to big...lol
Cmon, bloke dragged us to finals....then gets double teamed in grannies, one of em playing injuried
We had Hawkins hit the post, which wouldve changed everything and a lucky toe poke
Then we get a crap milne bounce and a ******* draw....which ends in a replay we prob needed a two week turn around for....no elevated levels in 8 of our players tho, we all heard that story

Thats a bees dick from back to back.
Back to ******* back....and one of the greatest marking forwards of all time was paid too much???
LOL

Harder draw this year...last year we played the bombers twice ffs
We lose 3 games this year by not paying attention...costs us prob 5th spot

5th spot people

And we are now wrist deep in the cookie jar to get a proven young gun

Fmd
All my chips are in
Go big go hard, but smart....or go the **** home
 

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Hey guys
Just wondering how confident you are on getting either Dusty or Josh Kelly?
Got both. Secretly training at Seaford already. Tricky for Kelly as he lives in Sydney.
Got Lever and Rocky as well who have come to the Saints on minimum wage because they just want to play with the Saints because we are so grouse.
 

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The only counter to that would be that GWS is not really a club under a lot of scrutiny. Being in the Melbourne fishbowl is pretty oppressive.
Agreed re: location affecting media but I'd also suggest given GWS's heavy flag favouritism pre-season and their "struggles" at times this year, they're probably getting as much focus as any side in it right now. But you can cut it in many ways depending on how you want to look at it I suppose.
 

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You're so critical of the idea of these 2, but what is the alternative you're suggesting? Dislike the notion of trading for these guys as much as you like but what is your solution?

Take into account that if we don't spend 105% of the cap next year, we lose the right to pay 105% in 2018 & 2019. And we have about $3mil extra in the cap for next year
Glad someone said this. We can't just keep spending 95% until it suits us.
We literally have to spend 105% starting next year and it's not going on two 18 year old draftees that's for sure.
 

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Glad someone said this. We can't just keep spending 95% until it suits us.
We literally have to spend 105% starting next year and it's not going on two 18 year old draftees that's for sure.
And continue to pay spuds overs. May as well get in guns to fill up the cap.
 

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Haha cool
Seems every board is saying similar stuff.
Richmond swear Dusty is staying.
Some North people are bullush of luring Martin.
Kelly is even harder to pick.
I've heard Carlton, Saints and North are in the mix.
No one knows mate. We are hopeful just like most. Things seem very quiet and the little bits we hear in the media are all contradictory so it seems as though they are all guessing.
 

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I'm going to say we are going to pull the trigger on a quality player. We actually still need to pay 95% of the cap. We can't leave the millions be and give it to the rest of the team. Or else we'll be like Melbourne 10 years ago where they paid all those spuds 95% of the cap, whilst a quality team like Geelong won off the same money.
Exactly.
FMD... quick poll...

How many think that Kelly will automatically win us a flag?
No, Kelly is "too small" (183cm), we need a big midfielder "like Selwood" (182cm).
 

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Ralphy reckons we aren't in the race for martin, and behind pack leaders carlton and north for kelly... instead floats motlop, pittard and lewis jetta.

I hope our ITK's mail is better than that campaigners!
Oh Jesus. I revise my statement, there will be an Exodus, from this board as we all melt and are all perma banned.
 

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Ralphy reckons we aren't in the race for martin, and behind pack leaders carlton and north for kelly... instead floats motlop, pittard and lewis jetta.

I hope our ITK's mail is better than that campaigners!
Don't think any of these journo's know! McClure just said North have conceded they're out of the race for Kelly and putting all their eggs into a godfather for martin.

Each of them are literally guessing until one gets it right..
 

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Exactly.

No, Kelly is "too small" (183cm), we need a big midfielder "like Selwood" (182cm).
Didn't say that I said he was smaller than I would like both in height and build and I thought he would end up an outside mid.

At any rate campaigner Thursday is over, I'm trying to drop some weight and it's making me belligerent.

Let's move on to what John Ralph said Motlop, pittard and Jetta, get out the pitch fork and burning brand and prepare to march on Moorabbin.
 

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Don't think any of these journo's know! McClure just said North have conceded they're out of the race for Kelly and putting all their eggs into a godfather for martin.

Each of them are literally guessing until one gets it right..
They have no idea at all, Carr was quoted yesterday saying nobody has been told what dusty is doing.

I think it's going to be one of those years where a lot of players change clubs, but it's looked that way before and very little has happened in the trade period.
 
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Ralphy reckons we aren't in the race for martin, and behind pack leaders carlton and north for kelly... instead floats motlop, pittard and lewis jetta.

I hope our ITK's mail is better than that campaigners!
Gee Ralphy read the thread like I said Kelly agreed to come to the Saints in late May early June it's a done deal he will be wearing RBW in 2018.
 

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Didn't say that I said he was smaller than I would like both in height and build and I thought he would end up an outside mid.

At any rate campaigner Thursday is over, I'm trying to drop some weight and it's making me belligerent.

Let's move on to what John Ralph said Motlop, pittard and Jetta, get out the pitch fork and burning brand and prepare to march on Moorabbin.
Good one. Last night wad a good robust debate with nothing personal thrown in.

All good. You have a different.
perspective badec on your opinion our players arent good enough.

Others opinion is they are good enough just not developed enough.

If your opinion is correct two dps is the correct way to go.

If the other opinion is correct Kelly is the go.
Only time will tell and like all opinions whatever happens the other can always argue it would have been better to go the other way.

Anyway cant wait for the strategy to be completed by spending our excess SC and two first round dps on Motlop, Jetta and Pittard
 
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