List Mgmt. 2017 Trade & Free Agency Discussion Thread

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I've never claimed to be a youth footy expert, but after watching a couple of minutes of highlights from Izak Rankine (that now makes me an expert, right?), he's exactly what we need in next years draft. Dare I say it, a right footed Josh Kelly.

I know this has been floated before, but is it worth looking at trading out pick 4 this year for a first rounder next year given how strong the draft will be? It would put us in an excellent position for a super draft with two first round picks that we could either use to get two of the best yougn players available, or package to move higher in the draft and give us a shot at one of the truly elite kids.

I would love to know how our recruiters rate the top 4 or 5 prospects of this draft against the first rounders of next year. Pykie as the most knowledgable youth person on this board, how would you rate Rayner/Dow/Cerra/Stephenson/LDU if they were in next years draft? Would they be top 10 talents? If not, would it be worth trying to trade out our first of this year for one next year?
I asked Brett Anderson where Rankine would go if in this draft. He said clear no 1.
 

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It's hilarious that over on the Saints board they think we ran our recruitment strategy through the media. Just making up stuff to deflect from their own disappointment.

NMFC barely commented throughout the year at all, Hell, we never even confirmed we'd made an offer to either Martin or Kelly. We just let the media believe what they wanted to.

Unlike their footy department who made specific statements on "if" they got Kelly etc.
What's truly hilarious is that you seem to be so concerned with the Saints Board to begin with. Why do you care what those Turkeys are posting? They're Irrelevant. I can count the number of times I've ventured onto the Saints Board with my Knob and I've had a Cut N Shut. That's because I don't give a shit about the Saints. So hopefully you get something out of this post and that is to not give a shit about the irrelevant. :stern look
 

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What's truly hilarious is that you seem to be so concerned with the Saints Board to begin with. Why do you care what those Turkeys are posting? They're Irrelevant. I can count the number of times I've ventured onto the Saints Board with my Knob and I've had a Cut N Shut. That's because I don't give a shit about the Saints. So hopefully you get something out of this post and that is to not give a shit about the irrelevant. :stern look
where is this Saints board you talk about, is that where they keep their one and only cup? is that why it is called a cupboard?
 

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I believe our strategy has always been to get use our first round pick in each draft. I dont think our pick 4 will go anywhere TBH. That strategy would of differed if Josh decided to come this year.
Yeah I generally agree with that, but 2018 is supposed to be the mother of all drafts.

I would be fascinated to know where our recruiters rate our likely pick 4 options this year if they were in next years draft. If it's 10+ then I think there would be some merit in trying to trade out our first pick this year for a pick that we project to be somewhere in the first 8-12 picks next year.

In any case, from everything I've read I'm not too bothered if we're poor next year and finish with a top 5 pick, and missing out on Kelly and/or Martin may prove to be a blessing in disguise if all they were going to do was push us into the 7th-12th range. With the elite top end talent available and our academy/FS options 2018 really could be for us what some of the early 2000's drafts were for Geelong and Hawthorn.
 

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More than happy to go to the draft now. Pick the best/quickest/most skilled mid at 4 then best available after that. Trade nothing picks for young, potential talent (ex. Ahern & Marley). A little pain for long term gain :thumbsu:
For mine the Ahern/Marley of this year could very well be Harley Balic from Freo, potentially elite talent but will go very cheap to the Vic club of his preference. I would hope we have a very enticing offer in front of him as we could easily offer him 100k more than anyone else, and not come near the salary cap.
 
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For mine the Ahern/Marley of this year could very well be Harley Balic from Freo, potentially elite talent but will go very cheap to the Vic club of his preference. I would hope we have a very enticing offer in front of him as we could easily offer him 100k more than anyone else, and not come near the salary cap.
We could offer him $1m a year and not get close to the salary cap.
 

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Not really into the idea of giving a big deal to a fringe player just to get him over. What if he ends up a complete bust and gets paid considerably more than Clarke/Preuss/Simpkin etc?
 

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DarkPhoenix all the opposition fans can laugh all they want because more cash means we will be disrupting the shit out of their club. Us being cashed up is not good news for any club.

Sydney suffered with Heeney on whatever he is on, Richmond the next and these are the ones we know of. GWS probably paid 100-200k more than they'd of liked.

Here is my response

 

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DarkPhoenix all the opposition fans can laugh all they want because more cash means we will be disrupting the shit out of their club. Us being cashed up is not good news for any club.

Sydney suffered with Heeney on whatever he is on, Richmond the next and these are the ones we know of. GWS probably paid 100-200k more than they'd of liked.

Here is my response

GWS don't care, daddy will look after them
 
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See look at ya's, all up and about looking forward to the super talent we will get with pick 4. The easiest thing for North to do was offer a young champ ( Kelly) 10 million dollars. My biological father who embezzled 5 mil could have come up with that plan. Actually Kelly may not have seen a cent of it.

We'd be pick 4 down and our first next year in the so called super draft. This will work out for the best. Just got to figure out a way to finish below Brissy and Carlton....... won't be easy.

Hit the AFL up for a priority pick and Bob's our Uncle. With the talent that emerged during the year and the overall standard of the comp,we won't be far off a lot sooner than some want to believe.

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Schache, Lever, Gibbs, Smith & Kennedy news herein.

JOSH Schache is again in Richmond’s sights as the Tigers chase a second key forward who can eventually take over from champion spearhead Jack Riewoldt.

Tigers and Lions officials have already spoken informally about what a trade for Schache could look like.

It would almost certainly include one of Richmond’s first draft picks — currently 15 and 16 — as the key plank in sending the young goalkicker to Punt Rd.

The Lions are open to trading Schache, 20, despite re-signing the goalkicker until 2019 just three months ago.

Richmond’s two first-round selections will fall between 15-17, depending on who wins the premiership.

One could be used for Schache and the other used to secure father-son prospect Patrick Naish.

The son of 161-gamer Chris Naish is a penetrating right-footer who is likely to command a bid before Richmond’s first selection, and possibly inside the top 10.

Despite a lean season, Schache would appeal to several Victorian clubs. The No. 2 draft pick kicked nine goals from 10 matches and returned home to Seymour twice.

Schache drove there instead of playing in the NEAFL premiership this monthand some teammates suspect he will not return to the Gabba.

The fluent set-shot has endured a demanding season mentally and the Lions said this month he was physically “cooked”.

The Herald Sun revealed in March that Richmond was targeting Schache.

Tigers football manager Neil Balme rejected the story, although Dan Richardson confirmed the club’s interest mid-season.

“Yeah that (story) was interesting. I think the competition has come a long way so that you can tell stories that you don’t have to justify, it’s fantastic,” a sarcastic Balme said on March 30.

“It’s much more important to get the story than to get it right.”

Jake Lever could play his final game for Adelaide on Friday night with the intercepting defender set to request a trade back to Victoria, most likely to Melbourne.

The Crows are expected to ask for two first-round picks as compensation. The Demons hold pick 10, although clubs will be hesitant to trade their 2018 first-round selections given the quality of next year’s talent pool.

The 2018 draft is seen as much stronger than this year’s draft.

A bountiful trade for Lever would boost Adelaide’s hopes of prising the contracted Bryce Gibbs out of Carlton, with the Blues set to again play hardball.

Geelong does not enter the draft until pick 20 as it courts Gary Ablett, Jake Stringer and Devon Smith.

Smith, from Lara, and Matt Kennedy could be squeezed out of Greater Western Sydney after it re-signed Josh Kelly on a two-year contract worth about $1.7 million.
 
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