2017 trade hypothetical thread

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

Our bargaining power is that you will have to negotiate with Adelaide in the future. Screw us over if you want, but one day you'll have an uncontracted player we want and you won't be getting fair value either. What comes around goes around.

So because we will have to deal with the crows in the future, we're gonna bend over and cop it and give away a top 10 pick or close to, for an uncontracted 3rd tall who wants to come home? I can't see it happening.

 

[briztoon]

Parish is an internal player at Melbourne now?

My bad, thought you were talking Essendon. I'll see myself out.

 

[blueiris]

Are the Parish rumors true or just wishful thinking on Bristoon Side would be a great get for the Lions if true

 

[Books]

Blues get band 1 compensation for Kruezar who goes to GWS as a RFA which ends up being pick 3.

Blues trade pick 3 + future 2nd round pick to GWS for Josh Kelly & Jacob Hopper.

Optimistic, IMO.

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

So pick 3 and at best pick 19 for Kelly and Hopper.

Why are Carlton giving up so much???

Get to ad an A grade and potential A grade mid into our midfield which is where our biggest holes are. Would leave Carlton with a midfield group of Cripps, Gibbs (if he stays) Murphy, Kelly, Hopper, SPS, Cuningham & who ever we take with pick 2.

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

Taking the piss or what?

How old is kruezer now? . Zero chance of a band 1. Band 3 would be Your dream outcome.

Also , why would gws want him?

And why would a gws team with more rising stars and a shrinking cap than it can handle throw big money at an older ruckman that would get a decent Compo pick.

Not too mention that without looking at it Kruezer would almost certainly be an ufa, he has been in your list for long enough to fulfil the requirements.

Kruezar just turned 28. He just comfortably beat the GWS ruck who is about to turn 31 and as good as he has been could be the giants only weakness going forward during there premiership window over the next 5 years. GWS would need to structure his salary to ensure that he reaches band 1, and Carlton might accept another salary dump player like a Ryan Griffen as part of the trades to free up currency to make it work..

 

[Dez!]

Kruezar just turned 28. He just comfortably beat the GWS ruck who is about to turn 31 and as good as he has been could be the giants only weakness going forward during there premiership window over the next 5 years. GWS would need to structure his salary to ensure that he reaches band 1, and Carlton might accept another salary dump player like a Ryan Griffen as part of the trades to free up currency to make it work..

I highly doubt GWS would be able (and be willing) to pay enough for Kreuzer to get band 1 compensation for Carlton.

Also you aren't getting Kelly and Hopper for pick 3 and a second round pick.

Keep dreaming.

 

[Burtman]

We want to get back into the first round this year, norths first pick would do. They can have any two of vickery, schoenmakers, duryea, willsmore, miles, heatherley, Gibson or brand. Who do they pick?

 

[eth-dog]

We want to get back into the first round this year, norths first pick would do. They can have any two of vickery, schoenmakers, duryea, willsmore, miles, heatherley, Gibson or brand. Who do they pick?

This post is funny.

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

I highly doubt GWS would be able (and be willing) to pay enough for Kreuzer to get band 1 compensation for Carlton.

Also you aren't getting Kelly and Hopper for pick 3 and a second round pick.

Keep dreaming.

Silvagni has mysterious ways of getting good deals out of GWS.. And if we had pick 3 no other rival North, Tigers or saints could offer a better pick to GWS. If he wants to leave that is as good as they will get.

 

[Bonkers000]

So because we will have to deal with the crows in the future, we're gonna bend over and cop it and give away a top 10 pick or close to, for an uncontracted 3rd tall who wants to come home? I can't see it happening.

When did I say any of that?

The Eagles will say their first is too early. The crows will say your second is too late. Somewhere in the middle will be about right. I will stand by my initial comment and say west coast have some work to do to get a pick that will satisfy the crows, assuming you don't have one around 20 already. I haven't looked to see.

Edit: why do you think gov is a third tall just because he plays that role for the crows? The guy could be a genuine full forward if that's what you want.

 

[Dez!]

Silvagni has mysterious ways of getting good deals out of GWS.. And if we had pick 3 no other rival North, Tigers or saints could offer a better pick to GWS. If he wants to leave that is as good as they will get.

GWS aren't going to let Silvagni fist them.

Nobody is paying Kreuzer enough to get band 1, just because he's had a relatively injury free season doesn't mean that his previous injury history goes out the window.

Also the Saints have the Hawks pick.

 

[philthy05]

Kruezar just turned 28. He just comfortably beat the GWS ruck who is about to turn 31 and as good as he has been could be the giants only weakness going forward during there premiership window over the next 5 years. GWS would need to structure his salary to ensure that he reaches band 1, and Carlton might accept another salary dump player like a Ryan Griffen as part of the trades to free up currency to make it work..

A) if beating an opponent on a one case basis is enough to convince teams to pay through the nose for them than west coast should offer Jason davenport a million dollar contract.

B) " gws would need to structure his salary to ensure he reaches band 1 "

What the hell are you smoking ? Why would gws need to do that ? Does silvangi have someone's kidnapped family in a basement ?

C) why is your solution to gws not breaking the bank for a ruck when they have heaps of elite players to fit in their cap gws giving you another player ?

Your logic is Very flawed and you need to take a moment to examine why that is and re think rather than try to explain away this shocking suggestion with more wild ideas.

 

[dazzledavey36]

Nah, that's not it. It's not about an external player, that's all I can say.

I think i know exactly who ypu are talking about aswell.

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

A) if beating an opponent on a one case basis is enough to convince teams to pay through the nose for them than west coast should offer Jason davenport a million dollar contract.

B) " gws would need to structure his salary to ensure he reaches band 1 "

What the hell are you smoking ? Why would gws need to do that ? Does silvangi have someone's kidnapped family in a basement ?

C) why is your solution to gws not breaking the bank for a ruck when they have heaps of elite players to fit in their cap gws giving you another player ?

Your logic is Very flawed and you need to take a moment to examine why that is and re think rather than try to explain away this shocking suggestion with more wild ideas.

No its about GWS getting pick 3 for Kelly, assuming Carlton finish 17th. Without Kruezar getting band 1 then GWS dont get pick 3. Its just about creative accounting to ensure they stay within the salary cap and not about paying a ruckmen overs.

 

[Skipper_]

Are the Parish rumors true or just wishful thinking on Bristoon Side would be a great get for the Lions if true

Pretty wishful I'd hope. Similar to us dreaming of Mathesion last year.

 

[eth-dog]

I think i know exactly who ypu are talking about aswell.

Actually I've received better news on that front since then haha but I still can't tell you who it is

 

[juss]

The best part of this thread is packaging spuds together to get a first rounder.
Lennon + Conca + our third rounder for Gold Coast's first.

 

[Guy Threepwood]

No its about GWS getting pick 3 for Kelly, assuming Carlton finish 17th. Without Kruezar getting band 1 then GWS dont get pick 3. Its just about creative accounting to ensure they stay within the salary cap and not about paying a ruckmen overs.

Or they could not break their bank for Kreuzer and ask for pick two in the instance Kelly wanted to go to Carlton.

 

[Snake_Baker]

We want to get back into the first round this year, norths first pick would do. They can have any two of vickery, schoenmakers, duryea, willsmore, miles, heatherley, Gibson or brand. Who do they pick?

Kelly

 

[Blueyourmyboy!!]

Or they could not break their bank for Kreuzer and ask for pick two in the instance Kelly wanted to go to Carlton.

Pick 2 is there's if Kelly wants to come to Carlton.

 

[citizen-erased]

The best part of this thread is packaging spuds together to get a first rounder.
Lennon + Conca + our third rounder for Gold Coast's first.

i think you have the wrong club if you're wanting to screw someone

 

[saintscott]

Actually I've received better news on that front since then haha but I still can't tell you who it is

Please tell me it is petracca to saints (where we should have picked him in the first instance). Or jayden hunt would do nicely also!

 

[philthy05]

Or they could not break their bank for Kreuzer and ask for pick two in the instance Kelly wanted to go to Carlton.

I imagine when the poster read this his head twitched like a robot in those sci fi films and smoke started pouring from the back of his head. "No, gws will make kruezer one of their highest paid players so Carlton can get pick 3 to trade back to them for hopper! "

It's not the creative accounting he claims it's foolish gibberish and a waste of our time and considering what this thread is that is saying something.

 

[BigFrizz36]

We want to get back into the first round this year, norths first pick would do. They can have any two of vickery, schoenmakers, duryea, willsmore, miles, heatherley, Gibson or brand. Who do they pick?

wrap them all up together and you might get the very last rookie draft pick or 2 steamed dim sims without soy sauce.