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Same reason as China calls itself a "Peoples" republic i bet.
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Same reason as China calls itself a "Peoples" republic i bet.
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Exactly. They're signifiers of Marxist-Leninist thought. North Korea is meant to be a democratic system of workers councils and China is meant to be a republic of the proletariat.
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"Meant to be" so it hasn't been implemented properly yet? Can't we just agree that greed means that both these systems will almost always result in dictators unwilling to give away their centrally concentrated power (which occurs in communist and fascist countries)?
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Democratic People's Republic of Korea is an unusual name of North Korea.
https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/ilust...telao-e-e-vaiado-e-xingado-em-sao-paulo.shtml
Roger Waters formerly the leader of Pink Floyd, was booed and cursed by the public at Allianz Park, this Tuesday, in San Paolo. It all happened around 11:30 p.m., when, on the screen, #EleNao appeared.
Before that, several slogans against fascism and authoritarian rule were removed. At one point, Brazil was placed as one of the countries under the threat of fascism - after many cries in favor, was the first occasion of booing.
At the end of the song, Waters began to be cursed of "Garbage" and "son of a whore" and heard "it will take in the ass".
On stage, visibly embarrassed, he stayed 5 minutes without knowing what to do. The former leader of Pink floyd then engaged a speech saying that a politician who supports a military regime is not possible. The boos and curses redoubled.
Looking back, Roger Waters even said that he does not know exactly what happens in the country.
He started introducing the band and engaged a new song: "Mother", an anti-war libel.
In the first few seconds, however, #EleNao appeared again on the screen. The curses tripled. But the music overcame screaming.
Soon after the show, fans commented: "It was so good until he talked about politics" "Douchebag," answered the other.
The political side, with speeches, has set the tone of Roger Waters' career in the last decades.
Roger Waters formerly the leader of Pink Floyd, was booed and cursed by the public at Allianz Park, this Tuesday, in San Paolo. It all happened around 11:30 p.m., when, on the screen, #EleNao appeared.
Before that, several slogans against fascism and authoritarian rule were removed. At one point, Brazil was placed as one of the countries under the threat of fascism - after many cries in favor, was the first occasion of booing.
At the end of the song, Waters began to be cursed of "Garbage" and "son of a whore" and heard "it will take in the ass".
On stage, visibly embarrassed, he stayed 5 minutes without knowing what to do. The former leader of Pink floyd then engaged a speech saying that a politician who supports a military regime is not possible. The boos and curses redoubled.
Looking back, Roger Waters even said that he does not know exactly what happens in the country.
He started introducing the band and engaged a new song: "Mother", an anti-war libel.
In the first few seconds, however, #EleNao appeared again on the screen. The curses tripled. But the music overcame screaming.
Soon after the show, fans commented: "It was so good until he talked about politics" "Douchebag," answered the other.
The political side, with speeches, has set the tone of Roger Waters' career in the last decades.
I have spoken to a few Brazilian girls about Bolsonaro and from what I gather he's like an exaggerated version of Trump. According to them:
- He's overtly homophobic
- His economic policies will entrench inequality and benefit the rich
- He's more popular among the rich than the poor (these girls were all at least middle class by Brazilian standards, BTW)
- He has anti-democratic, even fascist, tendencies
- He's ableist (hostile towards the disabled)
- He's arguably a racist
- He is something of a political outsider (like Trump)
- He's not particularly well-informed
His popularity, like Trump's, comes at least partially from a disillusionment with the Brazilian political process, which is (rightly) seen as corrupt. His opponent (Haddad) is a little like Clinton in the sense that a lot of people only tepidly support him and would have preferred other candidates in his stead.
- He's overtly homophobic
- His economic policies will entrench inequality and benefit the rich
- He's more popular among the rich than the poor (these girls were all at least middle class by Brazilian standards, BTW)
- He has anti-democratic, even fascist, tendencies
- He's ableist (hostile towards the disabled)
- He's arguably a racist
- He is something of a political outsider (like Trump)
- He's not particularly well-informed
His popularity, like Trump's, comes at least partially from a disillusionment with the Brazilian political process, which is (rightly) seen as corrupt. His opponent (Haddad) is a little like Clinton in the sense that a lot of people only tepidly support him and would have preferred other candidates in his stead.
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Well you can argue the extent but Maoist China was a type of proletarian republic, it's obviously not anymore.
No I will not because they're two completely different philosophical/political systems. Fascism worships hierarchy, whether that's monarchy, religion, or a dictator. That is the point of the fascism. Communism philosophically is egalitarian and anti-hierarchical by its nature. The purpose of one system is concentrated power, in the other system hierarchical power is a distortion of political goals.
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Not just the political process. It's hard to comprehend the scale of violence in many parts of the country.
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There'd be shitloads of Brazilians of an age where they conflate their memories of the military dictatorship (1964-1985) with being young and having working genitalia.
https://www.economist.com/the-americas/2018/10/13/jair-bolsonaro-is-poised-to-win-brazils-presidency
A STEEP hill and a concrete wall divide the worlds of Gabriela Moura, a student from Paraisópolis, a favela in the city of São Paulo, and Roberto Inglese, a lawyer from the prosperous neighbourhood of Morumbi. But on October 7th the two paulistanos were united in their choice for Brazil’s president: Jair Bolsonaro, a far-right former army captain. “All the other politicians are corrupt,” said Mr Inglese, who drove his SUV to vote at a private Italian school. “We need someone with a strong fist against crime,” said Ms Moura, who feared walking to a government-run day-care centre to vote because she had recently been assaulted nearby.
Such sentiments have brought Mr Bolsonaro to the verge of victory in a run-off, to be held on October 28th. He won 46% of the vote in the first round in a crowded field of candidates. His run-off rival is Fernando Haddad of the left-wing Workers’ Party (PT), whose de facto leader is Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, a former president who is serving a jail sentence for corruption. Mr Haddad enters the second round 17 percentage points behind. Betting markets give Mr Bolsonaro an 85% chance of becoming Brazil’s next president.
A STEEP hill and a concrete wall divide the worlds of Gabriela Moura, a student from Paraisópolis, a favela in the city of São Paulo, and Roberto Inglese, a lawyer from the prosperous neighbourhood of Morumbi. But on October 7th the two paulistanos were united in their choice for Brazil’s president: Jair Bolsonaro, a far-right former army captain. “All the other politicians are corrupt,” said Mr Inglese, who drove his SUV to vote at a private Italian school. “We need someone with a strong fist against crime,” said Ms Moura, who feared walking to a government-run day-care centre to vote because she had recently been assaulted nearby.
Such sentiments have brought Mr Bolsonaro to the verge of victory in a run-off, to be held on October 28th. He won 46% of the vote in the first round in a crowded field of candidates. His run-off rival is Fernando Haddad of the left-wing Workers’ Party (PT), whose de facto leader is Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, a former president who is serving a jail sentence for corruption. Mr Haddad enters the second round 17 percentage points behind. Betting markets give Mr Bolsonaro an 85% chance of becoming Brazil’s next president.
Oh yes, places like the favelas in Rio are notoriously violent (not unlike dead industrial cities like Detroit).
Guns are also common in Brazil, which doesn't help.
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Unfortunately she will be just as likely as anyone else to be shot by the cops. Hopefully she doesn't catch the eye of a cop for whatever reason.
Hopefully she doesn't have any gay friends - they'll be persecuted. Black friends? They're for it. Is she interested in having a vote after this election? That's on shaky ground.
Bolsanaro is basically a fringe lunatic. The world is pretty much screwed if this keeps up.
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And it was already screwed before. We don't need far right idiots in charge refusing to lift a finger to deal with climate change.
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The smart half of Brazil doesn't want to follow in it neighbour's footsteps. Venezuela is beyond repair. 2 million refugees to Colombia and half a million to Peru already. Boldonaro is the only hope.
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Everyone knows the way to solve corruption is by emulating the ideology of a corrupt military dictatorship.
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A BOLD leader.Who's this 'Boldonaro' character?
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The second round of voting is soon. Latest polls showing a 55%-45% lead for Bolsonaro over Haddad.
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A fascist in charge of the Amazon is bad news.
This is Brazil, so I'm not particularly amazed.
Looks like Bolsonaro is going to win. It will be very interesting to see how he governs. Will his governance style actually match his rhetoric?
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A country hampered by years and years of left wing governments finally shows some spine and goes with a right winger to fix their messed up country.
Time will tell.
Time will tell.
This bloke looks a fair bit too authoritarian for my sensative tastes but Brazil probably needs to try something different for a while.
Having watched various elections of conservative governments since becoming politically aware in my late teens and observed cries of "despot" and "fascist" every single time I'll give the guy the benefit of the doubt for now
Having watched various elections of conservative governments since becoming politically aware in my late teens and observed cries of "despot" and "fascist" every single time I'll give the guy the benefit of the doubt for now
"This Hitler guy looks a bit too authoritarian for my sensitive tastes but Germany probably needs to try something different for a while"
Sorry but if you give facists an inch, they take a mile. This will not end well for Brazil.
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