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List Mgmt. 2018 Draft Day Thread

Discussion in 'Western Bulldogs' started by Wizard17, Nov 22, 2018.

  1. doggiesmrx

    doggiesmrx Premiership Player

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    Wow, what has Michael Gibbons done wrong?
     

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  2. gangsta deluxe

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  3. TiAn_

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    Only aspect of our draft that I don’t see a rationale for. Seems a poor man’s Khamis. Why do we need two of them? Would have liked a different type of player there.
     
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  4. Doggies7

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    It's the rookie draft though, you don't draft for need there especially. With the remaining players very unlikely to make it, you grab the best available guy that you rate the highest with the best chance of turning into a AFL player. Sounds boring but you just need to take a swing on a guy who might become a player regardless of position.
     
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  5. Bont2Boyd

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    OK, didn't know that, good to know.
     
  6. Wizard17

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    Clearly we wanted to take players with excellent disposal by foot. Just because they played back as juniors doesn't mean that they will stay there.
     
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  7. Ridley This

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    Is it just me, I did we just process the same draft as 2014?



    2018-----------------------------------2014

    Bailey Smith---------------------------Toby McLean

    Rhylee West---------------------------Lukas Webb

    Laitham Vandermeer-----------------Declan Hamilton

    Ben Cavarra---------------------------Bailey Dale

    Will Hayes----------------------------Caleb Daniel

    Buku Khamis (Shenanigans)--------Zaine Cordy (F/S)



    Looks like a good haul, but we’ve thrown height to the wind yet again. Then in 2015 we draft Collin and Adam based on desperate need and everyone jumped for joy (and they both ended shit). Still… won the flag in 2016 I guess.


    I’m too confused by our trading down of picks to understand if we did good or bad. Like others, it baffles me that we didn’t go after a ruck or tall backman when they were there, such as Bailey Williams II or Jacob Koschitzke, after the cuts we've had.


    Did we outsmart ourselves playing games with the Khamis non-bid? Appears that we bumped the pick to next year and basically ensured no bit could scuttle us. Still come decent players on the board thought. Even Curtis Taylor looks like a handy player, because **** it, we’re batting about 12 deep on mid and half back flankers, why not load up on mid-sized forwards too. Saves a senior list spot I guess (probably Fletcher Roberts, who is one our few tallish backs but has limited upside).

    Mixed thoughts.
     
  8. TBOW

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    I haven't said anything categorically I have only offered my opinion. Unfortunately when your opinion rubs against the grain in this place you quickly become a pariah. I completely understand that this may have been the perfect scenario for our list management team but I find that highly unlikely, particularly when Power himself said that they were aiming to get another pick late in the first round.
     
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  9. hatescaptcha

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    We’ll have plenty of players who can kick it lace out to Ferg now. So we are all good.


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  10. bobby2

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    The "good vfl player who won't make it in the afl" gets bandied about here a lot. Most of this board were saying it about gowers earlier in the year. Sure, hayes might not make it, but give him a chance at AFL level before dubbing him below AFL quality.

    Honestly, if Hayes was on our list this year, he probably would've played most weeks. We were consistently promoting players with significantly worse vfl form.
     
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  11. Bont2Boyd

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    Yeah, but unlike McCartney, only for the right price. Power certainly did aim to get another pick late in the first round but the asking price was too high.
     
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  12. Whoyagot

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    I’ll be watching Khamis’ progress closely. Smoothest mover I’ve seen since JJ. Here’s hoping he can find his feet quickly, would love to see him playing in the firsts ASAP
     
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    What would have happened if Melbourne thought the same way with Bedford?
    The two clubs would have just kept on passing indefinitely trying to be last.
     
  14. True Dog

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    My thoughts exactly, let’s see how he develops before pigeon holeing him into one position. Looks to have some good traits to work with...
     
  15. TBOW

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    Sure but my point is if Power was prepared to trade out 30 and 35 to get back into the first round, then keeping them to draft West, Vandermeer and Cavarra was not the master plan and maybe we needed a better plan B rather than just using those picks to reach down the draft.
     
  16. bobs head soup

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    Seems a left field selection, but his description does read like a guy we rookied in 2004 who is currently sitting on 252 not out, so you never know
     
  17. True Dog

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    With our injuries this year he would have played for sure. He’ll have his work cut out for him with a full list but he’s earned the chance so good luck to him I say.
     
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  18. Northernsoul74

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    I watch VFL and I’ve seen him.
    I’m not ‘dubbing’ him down I just have an opinion based on what I’ve seen with my own eyes. I said I hope he proves me wrong.
    Gowers showed a lot more in terms of transferable traits such as his marking and aggression, especially in the vfl finals series.
     
  19. Northernsoul74

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    This place has become very precious recently. It’s a bit odd. Used to be great for debate. I’m even feeling a tad sympathetic towards MD!
     
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  20. Northernsoul74

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    Yep, good luck to him. I was just surprised at the suggestion he’d play 16-20 games next year.
     
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    If we can get the same impact from one or two of these newbies like we did from Richards/Naughty look out!! Happy days :)
     
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  22. McCraeBF

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    What a great draft well done Sam

    We needed outside speed a Ruckman and small forwards BANGGGGGGG!!!!!


    Roughead-Sweet
    Collins-Young
    Smith-West
    Dal-Cavarra
    Honey-Hayes
    Adams-Khamis
    Redpath-Smith
    Biggs-Vandermeer
    Campbell-Gowers
     
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    you are a correct about both. good to have a debate and great to have missed out on the left footers form sa.
     
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    But we risked losing Hayes ?
     
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