I know.
Let’s call it COLA.
It might even equalise the competition giving it a more national profile.
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Let’s call it COLA.
It might even equalise the competition giving it a more national profile.
Agreed. And the clubs aren't guiltless in this either.
In relation to connolly and their post from before which I can't find now, comparing AFL's situation to American sports is invalid imo. American culture is just different to Australian culture when it comes to moving away from home. For university and for work, Americans have always had far more incentive to move away at the age of 18 than Australians have so it's an ingrained part of their culture far more than it is with us. That's just reality.
And comparing it to the NRL is also a little flimsy imo because they don't have a draft. In the AFL you get drafted to a team and you have to go (by and large). In the NRL without a draft, you deliberately sign with a specific team, potentially from when you were under 18 years of age. Again, just a different scenario.
You could make the argument that the AFL is entirely unique in that it is a sports comp with a drafting system which resides in a culture which doesn't generally encourage moving interstate at the age of 18/19.
Not saying it doesn't annoy me too to see so many players citing homesickness as a factor in breaking contracts, but I understand it. And I'm sure it has been overused in a lot of cases. But the clubs break contracts whenever they like too and they don't get s**t for it like players are tending to.
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Yeh, agreed. Personally I liked the excitement of seeing new things, being challenged, being out of the norm.
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And I agree.
But an AFL career is optional not obligatory and all traditional state players can get money, not AFL level sure, playing in the state comps or club comps.
The thing is to have any integrity in the system and to ensure clubs get value for their assets, meaning the players, clubs should be able to have some say of where a contracted player is to go particularly if the player wants out.
I mean I want to earn $200k as a fly in fly out miner dude AND not actually have to fly in and out of a mine but those pesky employers just don't seem to want to let me work from home digging coal in the back yard.
I agree. As I posted earlier, I have some sympathy and understanding for homesickness as a reason to want to move clubs, but the players have too much power to force their way to a specific club, as presently constructed. For Tim Kelly to be so desperate to want to get home but refuse to consider one of the two teams in WA is ridiculous.
I think you have just returned to save us all from the Batavia shipwreck and cannibalising - praise the lord
Don’t mind what the swans have done so far, With the draft to,go. Hannebery, Scully, Wingard, Shiel, etc are like the Aust housing market, way over priced for what they will give over their contracts life. Eg Hannebery will not give $3.2m in return in the next 4 years. there’s a correction on the way, better to have the $ space when it arrives & I’m predicting that will be ‘19. (And just in time for a horse to extend their contract with a named successor shortly thereafter.)
With the trend for longer contracts for the top tier, this has to balanced with shorter ones for players who can give to senior level as soon as they walk in the door. Some of them will be 18 year olds but history says the majority of those kids are found in the 1st 20. With few picks in this zone for the swans, they’ve got to look elsewhere for value and immediate presence.
https://www.draftguru.com.au/analysis/pick-value-comparison
Don’t mind what the swans have done so far, With the draft to,go. Hannebery, Scully, Wingard, Shiel, etc are like the Aust housing market, way over priced for what they will give over their contracts life. Eg Hannebery will not give $3.2m in return in the next 4 years. there’s a correction on the way, better to have the $ space when it arrives & I’m predicting that will be ‘19. (And just in time for a horse to extend their contract with a named successor shortly thereafter.)
With the trend for longer contracts for the top tier, this has to balanced with shorter ones for players who can give to senior level as soon as they walk in the door. Some of them will be 18 year olds but history says the majority of those kids are found in the 1st 20. With few picks in this zone for the swans, they’ve got to look elsewhere for value and immediate presence.
https://www.draftguru.com.au/analysis/pick-value-comparison
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By the way if anyone hears of any $200k pa jobs I can do from home whilst watching Foxtel s**t, those renovations shows are the s**t, let me know please.
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Nah, I don't actually want to do anything
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Hawks going for the flag next year then.. interesting
Courtesy of WWSD from the Hawks board just now
IN: Wingard, Scully, Scrimshaw, Birchall
OUT: Burton, Duryea, Schoenmakers, Nash
B: Stratton, Frawley, Hardwick
HB: Birchall, Sicily, Scrimshaw
C: Scully, Mitchell, Smith
HF: Wingard, Gunston, Burgoyne
F: Breust, Roughead, Puopolo
R: McEvoy, O'Meara, Shiels
INT: Howe, Worpel, Morrison, Henderson*
That's a pretty damn strong side. God I hate Hawthorn.
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Its a chance, i mean made top 4 this year
Birchall and Scully didnt play much combined footy this year
we dont know what scrimshaw will give
Wingard is a boost
But roughead looked cooked to me, so did frawley at times
will burgoyne start to age, probably not
They can take risks coming off 3 recent flags mind you, so like the strategy
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Roughead and Frawley are the weak links. Key position players who are slowing. Birchall has the durability of a Reid. Strong line up though.
Like what they are doing, but there's still plenty of flaws in that team.
Significant ? over Scrimshaw, Burgoyne, Frawley Birchall, Scully, Roughhead, Puopolo, O'Meara, while Howe Hardwick Worpel Morrison and Henderson are nothing more than honest toilers
Its not out of the question but they would need everything to go right for them to win the flag
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They're optimistic slotting Scrimshaw in there. What has he shown so far?
Still need a good run with injuries if they want to achieve anything.
How are Port winners? They have gone backward.
No guarantee Burton ever gets to the level of Wingard. Pick 15 almost certainly wont.
Wingard even if he's been lazy was still their most important player and I won't be surprised to see him be an All australian for say, 3 of the next 5 years. Hawthorn will almost certainly be playing finals and pushing for a flag in that time.
Birchall has nearly played 250 games. Only the last two years has he played less than 15 games in a season.
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They identified what they need again ,like lake Frawley, Burgoyne etc
Awesome get by them *s let’s be honest
Would love him and Scully
Awesome get by them *s let’s be honest
Would love him and Scully
They are still old though
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maybe we should get G Wright in to do our trading
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