Preview 2018 Draft General Discussion

[crispy creme]

I might give it a go next week, thinking it will be pretty tough especially for the key position players.

All the players have been informed of the VM 40, just haven't been released publicly.

 

[Pykie]

 

[Banshee23]

Hope he is ok.

 

[eDPS]

Jackson Hately with another big game in the seniors

25 disposals
7 marks
6 tackles
2 goals
2 behinds

 

[SuperBashBros]

Jackson Hately with another big game in the seniors

25 disposals
7 marks
6 tackles
2 goals
2 behinds

"Seniors" 12 SANFL top ups and their midfield led by Jackson Edwards. Still like his game though.

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[eDPS]

Some notable stats from some TAC games so far

Riley Collier-Dawkins 28 disposals
Xavier O’Niell 26 disposals
James Rowbottom 25 disposals
Noah Answerth 16 disposals
Isaac Quaynor 16 disposals
Sam Walsh 38 disposals
Kye Quirk 25 disposals
Oscar Brownless 24 disposals

 

[lionshine]

Some notable stats from some TAC games so far

Riley Collier-Dawkins 28 disposals
Xavier O’Niell 26 disposals
James Rowbottom 25 disposals
Noah Answerth 16 disposals
Isaac Quaynor 16 disposals
Sam Walsh 38 disposals
Kye Quirk 25 disposals
Oscar Brownless 24 disposals

Walsh racks up the possessions with ease doesn't he?

 

[LynchysMob]

Walsh racks up the possessions with ease doesn't he?

Yyyyyyeeess he does.

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[eDPS]

Walsh racks up the possessions with ease doesn't he?

A great work rate does wonders for a player

 

[LemmingMaster]

A great work rate does wonders for a player

He has the best tank in the draft, that is a massive help.

 

[eDPS]

 

[Snake_Baker]

Terrible news. How far would this see him drop?

 

[GoGrows]

unless his recovery is complicated, i still reckon he goes top 5

 

[eDPS]

 

[Pykie]

unless his recovery is complicated, i still reckon he goes top 5

I don't think so.

Joel Selwood was the best player in the country by a considerable margin when he did his.

I think he go's in in the 5-10 range. It's hard for a rebuilding club to invest such a high pick on a kid that relies a lot on athleticism at the moment, he's not likely back until the second half of next season, it's essentially a missed year of development as well.

I think someone like Collingwood in the 5-10 range would be a big chance.

He might be the first big live trading option tbh.

 

[eDPS]

 

[Procrastinator35]

unless his recovery is complicated, i still reckon he goes top 5

Not now....Not with an ACL & with the added complication of being 200cm's.....Rucks are far more susceptible to re-injuring them & take far longer to fully recover from them.....They can have a severe impact on your leaping ability in some cases; Not to mention the psychological scars & impact on confidence in one's own body.

 

[Pykie]

Not now....Not with an ACL & with the added complication of being 200cm's.....Rucks are far more susceptible to re-injuring them & take far longer to fully recover from them.....They can have a severe impact on your leaping ability in some cases; Not to mention the psychological scars & impact on confidence in one's own body.

TBH, I could see someone like the Hawk's being extremely interested in him, and trading up to that 5-10 range for him to get him.

 

[Procrastinator35]

TBH, I could see someone like the Hawk's being extremely interested in him, and trading up to that 5-10 range for him to get him.

Then you aren't aware of our draft history with regards ruckmen....Take a gander through the archives of our past 25 years & see how many rucks we have drafted ourselves as opposed to trading the ready-made blokes in.....Here's a sample size for you.

Shaun Rehn, Paul Salmon, Peter Everitt, David Hale, Jonathan Ceglar, Ben McEvoy.

No chance in hades will we ever waste another first rounder on a ruckman.....The fact is, we've only ever gone to the draft this past decade with late first round picks.....Both of which went on Isaac Smith & Ryan Burton.....We tend to trade our early picks away for ready-made talent so as to avoid the draft lottery.

I'd have assumed this was common knowledge.....But with rucks & talls, it's even more the case......After Dowler, Thorp & Renouf.; Thrice bitten, thrice shy.

 

[eDPS]

 

[HedgeFund]

Then you aren't aware of our draft history with regards ruckmen....Take a gander through the archives of our past 25 years & see how many rucks we have drafted ourselves as opposed to trading the ready-made blokes in.....Here's a sample size for you.

Shaun Rehn, Paul Salmon, Peter Everitt, David Hale, Jonathan Ceglar, Ben McEvoy.

No chance in hades will we ever waste another first rounder on a ruckman.....The fact is, we've only ever gone to the draft this past decade with late first round picks.....Both of which went on Isaac Smith & Ryan Burton.....We tend to trade our early picks away for ready-made talent so as to avoid the draft lottery.

I'd have assumed this was common knowledge.....But with rucks & talls, it's even more the case......After Dowler, Thorp & Renouf.; Thrice bitten, thrice shy.

Max King is a 200cm goal kicking machine. He’s not a ruckman. If Hawthorn had a first rounder and he was available we would be absolutely mad not to take him.

Think Ryan Burton x 10

 

[the big lebowski]

Max King is a 200cm goal kicking machine. He’s not a ruckman. If Hawthorn had a first rounder and he was available we would be absolutely mad not to take him.

Think Ryan Burton x 10

Yeah just look at Ben Brown, Patton, even further back with Richo. King will be fine albeit a slightly higher relative risk of reinjuring compared to other players.

 

[briztoon]

It’s funny how we Australian sports fans view ACL’s as opposed to NBA fans. Especially when talking about a 200cm prospect.

An ACL injury, especially to a young player, is not viewed as career threatening.

Especially to a player who is only 200cm, which is guard or small forward size.

Usually viewed as a 2 year recovery period. 9 to 12 months to return to full contact. 24 months to regain full athleticism, and in some cases of young players, 19 - 22 years of age, some are more athletic after recovery, because they hadn’t reached their full physical capabilities at the time of injury.

 

[Procrastinator35]

Yeah just look at Ben Brown, Patton, even further back with Richo. King will be fine albeit a slightly higher relative risk of reinjuring compared to other players.

There've been way more busts than there have wins on the big man front.....Mitch Thorp was touted as the next Jonathon Brown in the Super-Draft of 2006....And based on his junior years he was....So much for that prediction.

A year earlier, Beau Dowler was the best key position forward in Victoria.....He then busted his hip in a car accident & never fully regained confidence thereafter.

 

[the big lebowski]

There've been way more busts than there have wins on the big man front.....Mitch Thorp was touted as the next Jonathon Brown in the Super-Draft of 2006....And based on his junior years he was....So much for that prediction.

A year earlier, Beau Dowler was the best key position forward in Victoria.....He then busted his hip in a car accident & never fully regained confidence thereafter.

I’m talking about guys coming back from knee injuries. Not under age players fulfilling their potential in the AFL.

Unless it’s a really bad knee, or their are some complications down the line Max will be fine. It might even help him as the pressure will be off and I don’t think that Max, Ben or even Lukosious would have that big an impact next year anyway.