List Mgmt. 2018 Draft Prospects aka the West and Khamis thread

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CaptainMurphy said:
I'm not sure the SA teams are really after pick 7, the top three SA kids should all be gone by then. GWS might be our best bet, I'd love 9 and 11. We'd have to add heaps more though, probably involving something from next year. Not sure how realistic it is.
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I agree just don't see enough incentives for a SA club to want to do it
 
Wizard17 said:
Didn't want to take another small after taking Woodcock and Hayes. Sprague was a no brainer and Cumming helps our ruckman (and ranga :p) depth.
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Surprised nobody took him. Woodcock was a good choice though.
 

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Hey, I saw where West Coast nominated one of their NGA prospects so that they get the right of taking him at a discount if he gets bidded on. Does anyone know if Buku Khamis has actually been nominated by the dogs as yet, and if not, when is the cutoff for nomination? I know West has been nominated but I haven't heard anything on Khamis.
 
Wizard17 said:
Just finished up on the BF phantom.

ND

Ben King (202cm KPP)
Rhylee West (180cm IM)
Boyd Woodcock (174cm Fwd/Mid)
Daly Andrews (183cm wingman)
Buku Khamis (190cm defender)

RD

Charlie Sprague (187cm forward)
Will Hayes (179cm mid/forward)
Stephen Cumming (199cm Ruck)
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Woodcock and Cumming... so immature :rolleyes:
 
Northern Dogs said:
Hey, I saw where West Coast nominated one of their NGA prospects so that they get the right of taking him at a discount if he gets bidded on. Does anyone know if Buku Khamis has actually been nominated by the dogs as yet, and if not, when is the cutoff for nomination? I know West has been nominated but I haven't heard anything on Khamis.
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I read somewhere that they had both been nominated a week our so ago
 
Not sure if these have been posted yet:

Riley West
DRAFT ANALYSIS: "A Western Bulldogs father-son prospect who can be damaging through the midfield or up forward with great athleticism"

OVERVIEW

Rhylee West is a prospect who Western Bulldogs fans will have been tracking for a few years now. The nuggety inside midfielder has developed as his top-age year has gone on, improving in a number of areas, and becoming a genuine first round prospect. West’s work around the stoppages, particularly in the forward half, is arguably the most damaging of any player in the draft crop. He has the capability of going forward and having an impact on the scoreboard due to his strength and super vertical leap. West is unbelievably agile, and this helps both with and without the ball, and if he can iron out some of the question marks – such as overusing the football at times and improve on his endurance – then he will undoubtedly become a fixture in the Bulldogs’ side. He stands at just 180cm, and will likely start out as a forward at AFL level before progressing into the midfield.

STRENGTHS

  • Stoppage work
  • Scoreboard impact
  • Strength
  • Vertical leap
  • Tackling
  • Agility
West has a number of strengths that make him a promising prospect heading into November’s National AFL Draft. The thing with West is, his strengths are very clear strengths and he has the ability to impact a contest through the middle of the ground or up forward. When on the ball, West knows how to read the taps from his ruck, and so often this season he was seen cruising through a forward stoppage, winning the ball and then snapping around his body or running into goal for a major. While the stats might read that he did not kick an awful lot of goals, he spent most of his time at St Kevin’s this season, where he spent a lot of time forward. He has a running vertical leap of 80cm, and his pre-season agility test result of 8.164 seconds, ranks as elite and it shows with his movement through stoppages.

The knock on him despite his strengths is his height – at just 180cm, the prototype inside midfielder is growing into almost key position height. However given West’s work through congestion and his strength, he could still play a role on the inside, but could be just as suited up forward as a pressure forward who can kick a couple of goals a game. He averaged 4.8 clearances and 4.3 inside 50s per game, and only 12.3 per cent of his kicks resulted in a direct turnover to the opposition. While he still has plenty to improve on, he wins his own ball – 52 per cent of his possessions are won under pressure – and he gets forward to hit the scoreboard (1.2 goals per game). For a smaller player, he also lays a lot of tackles, with 5.8 per game in his six games, having that defensive pressure and hard edge to his game. Sometimes he can live on the edge a bit, and cost the odd free kick, but he is likely to be the player that supporters love because he bleeds for the jumper.

IMPROVEMENTS

  • Overuse
  • Endurance
West’s two main improvements are areas that can be worked on under coaches at the elite level. His endurance is straight forward – a full-preseason will continue to build on what he undoubtedly has improved on since the start of the year when he recorded 20.7 on the yo-yo test. The second improvement is one that he has been noticeably better at as the season goes on, and will be something to watch. He can tend to overuse the football by firing away handballs behind his head or going for low percentage plays. He has some great strengths, and it is about harnessing those strengths, without overdoing it too much. Likewise, his kicking could also improve, averaging 53 per cent by foot, but winning a lot in the contest means he will have a fair few ineffective kicks. His clanger total is low, with most kicks often going to contests, and it is another area that has improved as the season has worn on. West has a number of improvements, but no doubt will be diligent in working on them.

DRAFT PROJECTION: 10-30

SUMMARY

Rhylee West is a small inside midfielder/forward who will likely start inside 50 once he lands at the Western Bulldogs – who are expected to match a bid somewhere in the first or second rounds. The compensation pick for Luke Dahlhaus should help with points for matching the bid, and while West does have some improvements to make, his strengths are pretty impressive. Bulldogs fans will in particular enjoy his ability to read stoppages, work his way through traffic and hit the scoreboard, while also laying plenty of tackles. West has that “white-line fever” that some players have, and while it can be costly at times, he is the player that every teammate would love to have on his side, and he is not afraid to match it with much taller players.


Buku Khamis
DRAFT ANALYSIS: “One of the great stories of this year’s draft, Khamis is an athletic tall defender who intercepts and kicks extremely well.”

OVERVIEW

Buku Khamis is a late bloomer when it comes to football, but has developed at a break-neck speed over the past two seasons to become one of the leading tall prospects in this year’s draft pool.

Khamis pairs impressive athleticism with great ball skills and composure, fitting the mould of a new-age defender who can intercept and move the ball forward. Having impressed in his bottom age year with 16 games to place under his belt, Khamis continued along his upward trajectory this year and landed a spot in the Vic Metro squad. It was on the national stage that Khamis’ elite intercept marking and rebounding ability came to the fore, especially in Metro’s close win against the Allies where their half-backs got a good running game going. A member of the Western Bulldogs’ Next Generation Academy, it is not hard to see why Dogs fans have pronounced their excitement around the Western Jets product, who looks likely end up at Whitten Oval come November.

STRENGTHS

  • Kicking
  • Intercept marking
  • Positioning
  • Composure
  • Endurance
  • Scope
Khamis’ strengths are both abundant and obvious, which has helped in the way of having him catch the eye of recruiters. His athletic ability comes two-fold, with a striking vertical leap partnered by his strong endurance base. Add to that a good knack for the perfect positioning behind the ball and you have an elite intercept marking defender at the Under 18 level. While Khamis’ contested marking has taken a back seat over the past year with his average being halved to just 0.78 per TAC Cup game, it has allowed his work rate to shine as he was often the trusted outlet – finding space to receive and move the ball out of defence with 3.3 rebound 50’s per game.

Central to Khamis’ exceptional rebounding is his kicking efficiency, going at 81.4 per cent in the TAC Cup to be one of the rare players who goes at a better rate by foot, which is even more impressive once you consider that he kicks more often than he handballs. While he does kick short and link in defence a lot, Khamis holds the lowest clanger kick percentage out of all the combine invitees at just 2.7 per cent, showing the maturity and reliability essential to any defender beyond his years.

Khamis’ endurance base is also a massive bonus, as it is often something talls are made to improve on at the next level. While he isn’t the quickest across the ground, Khamis can cover a hell of a patch throughout a match and has games where he seems pop up everywhere in the back half. These profound strengths and his ability to control games make it clear that Khamis’ skillset is transferable to the AFL level, and they perfectly suit the type of player he has developed into.

IMPROVEMENTS

  • Strength
  • Tackling
  • Game sense
While there’s a heap of areas that Khamis excels in, like any raw prospect there are a few patch ups that can be made before he has an impact at the next level. The style of Khamis’ play means that he is very good at winning the ball without constantly having an opponent to deal with, which sees him rarely engage in one-on-one battles. It might not necessarily be a weakness and he hasn’t been massively beaten yet, but Khamis can definitely build out his frame and ensure he is able to defend all types of forwards while engaging in his usual game. On that note, Khamis’ tackling numbers are also quite low for a defender, registering just over one per TAC Cup and National Championship game. Again, he has not been found out by it yet and it isn’t essential to his current style, but is an area he can bolster.

Another way Khamis can improve is in his game sense. He is strong in his positioning behind the ball and composure with it in hand, but struggles to adjust at times when the opposition is not always pumping the ball into his zone. This means that if he is starved of opportunity to intercept, he will not always find another way to impact the game when the ball is moved around him. Essentially, Khamis is a great offensive defender, but could become more prolific going the other way. These are things that will come naturally as he develops further and learns the game at an accelerated rate in an AFL setting.

DRAFT PROJECTION: 30-50

SUMMARY

Buku Khamis is an exciting talent who possesses a natural athletic base and elite-level skills. While he is still raw, Khamis has improved at a ridiculous rate to really hone his craft and match his best traits to the kind of player he looks to be. With plenty of TAC Cup experience and decent shifts at the National Championships, the Western Jet has shown he is able to both dominate, and hang with the best this draft crop has to offer. There is still room for improvement, but Khamis looks highly likely to land at the Western Bulldogs as a member of their Next Generation Academy with a bid matched in the 30-50 range, with a high ceiling on his potential.

There's stacks more profiles on Draft Central as well as all the stats for our boys. Well worth checking out.
https://www.afldraftcentral.com.au/draft-pool-midfielders/
 
flipper83 said:
Not sure if these have been posted yet:

Riley West
DRAFT ANALYSIS: "A Western Bulldogs father-son prospect who can be damaging through the midfield or up forward with great athleticism"

OVERVIEW

Rhylee West is a prospect who Western Bulldogs fans will have been tracking for a few years now. The nuggety inside midfielder has developed as his top-age year has gone on, improving in a number of areas, and becoming a genuine first round prospect. West’s work around the stoppages, particularly in the forward half, is arguably the most damaging of any player in the draft crop. He has the capability of going forward and having an impact on the scoreboard due to his strength and super vertical leap. West is unbelievably agile, and this helps both with and without the ball, and if he can iron out some of the question marks – such as overusing the football at times and improve on his endurance – then he will undoubtedly become a fixture in the Bulldogs’ side. He stands at just 180cm, and will likely start out as a forward at AFL level before progressing into the midfield.

STRENGTHS

  • Stoppage work
  • Scoreboard impact
  • Strength
  • Vertical leap
  • Tackling
  • Agility
West has a number of strengths that make him a promising prospect heading into November’s National AFL Draft. The thing with West is, his strengths are very clear strengths and he has the ability to impact a contest through the middle of the ground or up forward. When on the ball, West knows how to read the taps from his ruck, and so often this season he was seen cruising through a forward stoppage, winning the ball and then snapping around his body or running into goal for a major. While the stats might read that he did not kick an awful lot of goals, he spent most of his time at St Kevin’s this season, where he spent a lot of time forward. He has a running vertical leap of 80cm, and his pre-season agility test result of 8.164 seconds, ranks as elite and it shows with his movement through stoppages.

The knock on him despite his strengths is his height – at just 180cm, the prototype inside midfielder is growing into almost key position height. However given West’s work through congestion and his strength, he could still play a role on the inside, but could be just as suited up forward as a pressure forward who can kick a couple of goals a game. He averaged 4.8 clearances and 4.3 inside 50s per game, and only 12.3 per cent of his kicks resulted in a direct turnover to the opposition. While he still has plenty to improve on, he wins his own ball – 52 per cent of his possessions are won under pressure – and he gets forward to hit the scoreboard (1.2 goals per game). For a smaller player, he also lays a lot of tackles, with 5.8 per game in his six games, having that defensive pressure and hard edge to his game. Sometimes he can live on the edge a bit, and cost the odd free kick, but he is likely to be the player that supporters love because he bleeds for the jumper.

IMPROVEMENTS

  • Overuse
  • Endurance
West’s two main improvements are areas that can be worked on under coaches at the elite level. His endurance is straight forward – a full-preseason will continue to build on what he undoubtedly has improved on since the start of the year when he recorded 20.7 on the yo-yo test. The second improvement is one that he has been noticeably better at as the season goes on, and will be something to watch. He can tend to overuse the football by firing away handballs behind his head or going for low percentage plays. He has some great strengths, and it is about harnessing those strengths, without overdoing it too much. Likewise, his kicking could also improve, averaging 53 per cent by foot, but winning a lot in the contest means he will have a fair few ineffective kicks. His clanger total is low, with most kicks often going to contests, and it is another area that has improved as the season has worn on. West has a number of improvements, but no doubt will be diligent in working on them.

DRAFT PROJECTION: 10-30

SUMMARY

Rhylee West is a small inside midfielder/forward who will likely start inside 50 once he lands at the Western Bulldogs – who are expected to match a bid somewhere in the first or second rounds. The compensation pick for Luke Dahlhaus should help with points for matching the bid, and while West does have some improvements to make, his strengths are pretty impressive. Bulldogs fans will in particular enjoy his ability to read stoppages, work his way through traffic and hit the scoreboard, while also laying plenty of tackles. West has that “white-line fever” that some players have, and while it can be costly at times, he is the player that every teammate would love to have on his side, and he is not afraid to match it with much taller players.


Buku Khamis
DRAFT ANALYSIS: “One of the great stories of this year’s draft, Khamis is an athletic tall defender who intercepts and kicks extremely well.”

OVERVIEW

Buku Khamis is a late bloomer when it comes to football, but has developed at a break-neck speed over the past two seasons to become one of the leading tall prospects in this year’s draft pool.

Khamis pairs impressive athleticism with great ball skills and composure, fitting the mould of a new-age defender who can intercept and move the ball forward. Having impressed in his bottom age year with 16 games to place under his belt, Khamis continued along his upward trajectory this year and landed a spot in the Vic Metro squad. It was on the national stage that Khamis’ elite intercept marking and rebounding ability came to the fore, especially in Metro’s close win against the Allies where their half-backs got a good running game going. A member of the Western Bulldogs’ Next Generation Academy, it is not hard to see why Dogs fans have pronounced their excitement around the Western Jets product, who looks likely end up at Whitten Oval come November.

STRENGTHS

  • Kicking
  • Intercept marking
  • Positioning
  • Composure
  • Endurance
  • Scope
Khamis’ strengths are both abundant and obvious, which has helped in the way of having him catch the eye of recruiters. His athletic ability comes two-fold, with a striking vertical leap partnered by his strong endurance base. Add to that a good knack for the perfect positioning behind the ball and you have an elite intercept marking defender at the Under 18 level. While Khamis’ contested marking has taken a back seat over the past year with his average being halved to just 0.78 per TAC Cup game, it has allowed his work rate to shine as he was often the trusted outlet – finding space to receive and move the ball out of defence with 3.3 rebound 50’s per game.

Central to Khamis’ exceptional rebounding is his kicking efficiency, going at 81.4 per cent in the TAC Cup to be one of the rare players who goes at a better rate by foot, which is even more impressive once you consider that he kicks more often than he handballs. While he does kick short and link in defence a lot, Khamis holds the lowest clanger kick percentage out of all the combine invitees at just 2.7 per cent, showing the maturity and reliability essential to any defender beyond his years.

Khamis’ endurance base is also a massive bonus, as it is often something talls are made to improve on at the next level. While he isn’t the quickest across the ground, Khamis can cover a hell of a patch throughout a match and has games where he seems pop up everywhere in the back half. These profound strengths and his ability to control games make it clear that Khamis’ skillset is transferable to the AFL level, and they perfectly suit the type of player he has developed into.

IMPROVEMENTS

  • Strength
  • Tackling
  • Game sense
While there’s a heap of areas that Khamis excels in, like any raw prospect there are a few patch ups that can be made before he has an impact at the next level. The style of Khamis’ play means that he is very good at winning the ball without constantly having an opponent to deal with, which sees him rarely engage in one-on-one battles. It might not necessarily be a weakness and he hasn’t been massively beaten yet, but Khamis can definitely build out his frame and ensure he is able to defend all types of forwards while engaging in his usual game. On that note, Khamis’ tackling numbers are also quite low for a defender, registering just over one per TAC Cup and National Championship game. Again, he has not been found out by it yet and it isn’t essential to his current style, but is an area he can bolster.

Another way Khamis can improve is in his game sense. He is strong in his positioning behind the ball and composure with it in hand, but struggles to adjust at times when the opposition is not always pumping the ball into his zone. This means that if he is starved of opportunity to intercept, he will not always find another way to impact the game when the ball is moved around him. Essentially, Khamis is a great offensive defender, but could become more prolific going the other way. These are things that will come naturally as he develops further and learns the game at an accelerated rate in an AFL setting.

DRAFT PROJECTION: 30-50

SUMMARY

Buku Khamis is an exciting talent who possesses a natural athletic base and elite-level skills. While he is still raw, Khamis has improved at a ridiculous rate to really hone his craft and match his best traits to the kind of player he looks to be. With plenty of TAC Cup experience and decent shifts at the National Championships, the Western Jet has shown he is able to both dominate, and hang with the best this draft crop has to offer. There is still room for improvement, but Khamis looks highly likely to land at the Western Bulldogs as a member of their Next Generation Academy with a bid matched in the 30-50 range, with a high ceiling on his potential.

There's stacks more profiles on Draft Central as well as all the stats for our boys. Well worth checking out.
https://www.afldraftcentral.com.au/draft-pool-midfielders/
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Trying to confirm it but heard we might have two vfl players train with us leading into the draft
 
VitalDread said:
Trying to confirm it but heard we might have two vfl players train with us leading into the draft
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Be interesting to see who they are. Im keen for a few hardened jobbers to join us late in the ND/RD. Need to raise the ave age a bit also.
 
RedWhite&Blue said:
Those obsessive traits make him sound like a cross between Daniel Cross and Shane Woewodin.
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On a serious note, does that obsessive attitude mean that he has a higher ceiling, or a much lower ceiling because he's almost as good as he can be.
 
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Dry Rot said:
On a serious note, does that obsessive attitude mean that he has higher ceiling, or a much lower ceiling because he's almost as good as he can be.
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Higher imo
In a afl system he will be pushing himself even more
 
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