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Better than 07?Might be our best draft since way back in early 00’s
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Better than 07?Might be our best draft since way back in early 00’s
We often pick up older role players with rookie picks. It tends to work well for us becauseDidn’t people question us rookieing Ceglar too? I mean, why would we want some Collingwood reject on our list?
Possible partial reason: As I understand it Rookie selections can be delisted after 1 year whereas ND selections must be kept for at least 2 years. I’m sure that if the Hawks had earlier selections in the ND, and so access to players more likely to make it, they would use more picks in the ND and fewer in the Rookie draft.Wondering if a couple of the smarter folk out there could explain what we did with this draft. Drafting Kosi makes sense, trading for Walker, who was passed on by GWS doesn’t.
Then we pass on the ‘real’ draft all of a sudden to load up on rookies. Does this mean we’re fairly happy with a few of the current rookies? Also, Tim Mohr? Where did that come from?
Rookies dont count to TPP.Possible partial reason: As I understand it Rookie selections can be delisted after 1 year whereas ND selections must be kept for at least 2 years. I’m sure that if the Hawks had earlier selections in the ND, and so access to players more likely to make it, they would use more picks in the ND and fewer in the Rookie draft.
Though I can only think of one player (Jarrod Hardisty) that we have recently cut after just one year.
There is an interesting article on AFL website about Mick Gibbons from the VFL and how he did not get picked up by a club.
Any thoughts why we might not have rookied him to play With Box Hill and help the development of the Box Hill team?
Sicily forward is the thing that makes sense. You know it, I know it, he's James ******* Sicily and he belongs near the goals.
And I really like Brand. I know many disagree - but he's a KPP and hasn't even played 40 games. A bit of continuity and I think we'd see him really grow. He's also much better than his British comedian counterpart, Russell Brand.
If Sis didn't hurt his arm and miss the last 6 games of the year he would have been All Australian......so he isn't moving forwardAgreed, Sicily down back is fine if we're missing Stratts and/or Birchall. But Teams have worked out that you pull him back and isolate him and he's vulnerable.
Would much rather have him up forward.
If Sis didn't hurt his arm and miss the last 6 games of the year he would have been All Australian......so he isn't moving forward
Exactly.Sicily was a liability in the forward line when the opposition had the ball. His defensive pressure was non existent. Leave him back where he has excelled.
Thanks guys, these are good points.Possible partial reason: As I understand it Rookie selections can be delisted after 1 year whereas ND selections must be kept for at least 2 years. I’m sure that if the Hawks had earlier selections in the ND, and so access to players more likely to make it, they would use more picks in the ND and fewer in the Rookie draft.
Though I can only think of one player (Jarrod Hardisty) that we have recently cut after just one year.
We have an incredible amount to be optimistic about.
Clarkson has created an environment at our club which allows players to become extremely autonomous and to get the best out of themselves. Just look at what has happened to T. Mitchell since he joined us, and Gibson before him.
Of course it's important who we draft, but I have faith that our recruiters are looking for players who have the hunger to improve. It's been said many times, but we have an great record of finding players to perform a role. Between Wingard, Sicily, Gunston, Mitchell, Scully, Jaeger and Bruest we have all the star power we need for the next five years (plus I'm privately bullish that Worpel, Impey, Morrison, and Hardwick could get to that level).
The irony of a “defender” being unable to put on pressure at ground level......Sicily was a liability in the forward line when the opposition had the ball. His defensive pressure was non existent. Leave him back where he has excelled.
It's a total change of attitude with him in the backline. Some of his best plays this year were smothers, tackles, shepherds and rushed behinds. He is such a better team player when the goal posts are further away. We'll still see him regularly swung forward in tight 4th quarters though.The irony of a “defender” being unable to put on pressure at ground level......
Hahahaha. Insane the amount of people baffled by the Mohr pickup.Perhaps we should have held on to Willsmore for yet another year
I just threw up carrots and peas even though I had Chicken, Broccoli, Potato, Cauliflower and Tomato for my evening meal. You should be carded.Perhaps we should have held on to Willsmore for yet another year
He also kicked 30 goals in a season playing as a forward target when he weighed about 75kgs.If Sis didn't hurt his arm and miss the last 6 games of the year he would have been All Australian......so he isn't moving forward
He's training with the defenders.He also kicked 30 goals in a season playing as a forward target when he weighed about 75kgs.
People forget how many excellent contested marks he took as a second year player.
His poor run of form as a forward in the early part of 2017 also coincided with a dysfunctional game plan and transitioning midfield that had just lost two senior stars, Mitchell was still finding his feet and O'Meara couldn't get on the park. The reason Sicily moved to defence was because that's where the ball was when we were getting smashed by 10 goals each week!
He is bigger, stronger and more experienced - could easily kick 50 a season or continue his AA defensive form.
Win-Win.
He's training with the defenders.
He will be a defender.
This will be like "Roughy to CHB" for the next 10 years.