List Mgmt. 2018 Draft thread.

[Soups]

Could Treloar Injurt Effect how we Draft?

I don’t see how Treloar’s injury has to do with who we draft. Can you explain that one a little more TD?

 

[TradeDraft]

I don’t see how Treloar’s injury has to do with who we draft. Can you explain that one a little more TD?

I was thinking we just Needed KPP but I would see maybe us going Mid as Treloar Injury could Hamper him Long Term

 

[Knightmare]

Likely pick number?

Could go around pick 10, at this stage likely just inside that range.

Easily the most talented forward and can push through the midfield and have an impact.

 

[Soups]

I was thinking we just Needed KPP but I would see maybe us going Mid as Treloar Injury could Hamper him Long Term

We’ll draft best available if we have a first round pick. Treloar is young, he’ll be fine.

 

[loki04]

Could go around pick 10, at this stage likely just inside that range.

Easily the most talented forward and can push through the midfield and have an impact.

He wont make it past Adelaides pick.

I'm tipping he won't "interview well" with non SA teams much like Darcy Fogarty last year and Wingard in his draft year...

 

[Snoop Dog]

Pressure was good on the week and has been through the u18 champs so far.

High level speed/endurance athlete. Can play outside and showing he can also play forward.

Skills/composure didn't impress me on the weekend and will be something to continue to watch and hope was more an outlier than the norm in that role.

One who coming into the season was considered a fringe first round choice, but is probably more a mid draft choice now with others passing him by.

A possible role player as that pressure forward and probably a suitable list fit.

With that said, I favour Collingwood adding Atu as that pressure forward and ground level option as a category B rookie instead.



Kelly is looking better down back than he did forward. He's adapting to the position and starting to show signs. A possible choice to keep tracking.



A club inside the top 15 bidding on Quaynor? I wouldn't match a bid inside the top 30 for him!

He's a solid defender with an advanced body, but lacking upside. His best case scenario is he becomes Lumumba - as that strong bodied defender with ok athleticism who blasts long in hope without lowering his eyes.

Atu who should last until the rookie draft I rate the higher of the two of the Pies next gen academy boys.

I dont have top 15 so agreed but i do have inside top 20. his development been on a great trajectory last 12 months and know couple are watching closely. Also need to think about Pies need about when there next pick will be as a scenario where a club might force them to use it. That was probably more my point.

Am intrigued you have him out of top 30. Hope its true. Where you got Will and Bailey?

 

[Knightmare]

I dont have top 15 so agreed but i do have inside top 20. his development been on a great trajectory last 12 months and know couple are watching closely. Also need to think about Pies need about when there next pick will be as a scenario where a club might force them to use it. That was probably more my point.

Am intrigued you have him out of top 30. Hope its true. Where you got Will and Bailey?

I rate Quaynor around 40 if I'm to extend out my power rankings which is why I wouldn't be able to justify using a choice inside the first 30. If clubs rate him top 30, I'd be more than happy for Collingwood to pass on him and take a better talent.

He's an advanced prospect physically. Can run and take on the game some but not at a high level.

Kicking is adequate but not great - he'll blast long, rarely lowers his eyes. Reliability to targets is fine when he actually spots one out but doesn't often enough.

Capable 1v1, able intercepter without being an elite reader.

He's someone who can be a role player, and with his body so advanced, he can play sooner rather than later, but I'm not seeing anything that makes me as enthusiastic as other recruiters seem to be.

I've seen a lot of Quaynor, and my view coming out of each game is the same.

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Bailey Wraith I don't have getting picked. People at Carey speak him up and say he's a quality guy who will work, but he's done nothing at Oakleigh to suggest he's draftable - capable athletically as he is. He needs to start delivering on matchday.

Will Kelly I didn't see anything in as a forward and until last week is one I would have said I would have steered well clear of. V Country he showed genuine progress and looks like he may have found his spot as a key defender. I'm now more interested in what he has to offer through the second half of the season. If he keeps improving down back - intercepting and winning his 1v1s, he could be draftable in the latter portion or as a rookie.

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Other recruiters don't seem to be talking about him, but Atu is someone I'd draft in a hurry as a rookie. Pressure/tackling is fantastic. He's a high % contested ball winner. Don't know how he test, but he feels quick in game and like someone who could grow into that pressure/crumbing small forward role. Of those Collingwood have priority access to, he's the one I'd make a point of taking.

 

[TradeDraft]

I rate Quaynor around 40 if I'm to extend out my power rankings which is why I wouldn't be able to justify using a choice inside the first 30. If clubs rate him top 30, I'd be more than happy for Collingwood to pass on him and take a better talent.

He's an advanced prospect physically. Can run and take on the game some but not at a high level.

Kicking is adequate but not great - he'll blast long, rarely lowers his eyes. Reliability to targets is fine when he actually spots one out but doesn't often enough.

Capable 1v1, able intercepter without being an elite reader.

He's someone who can be a role player, and with his body so advanced, he can play sooner rather than later, but I'm not seeing anything that makes me as enthusiastic as other recruiters seem to be.

I've seen a lot of Quaynor, and my view coming out of each game is the same..

So you think Collingwood can do lot Better then Him and only take him IF he lasts to the 3rd Round at Earliest?

Bailey Wraith I don't have getting picked. People at Carey speak him up and say he's a quality guy who will work, but he's done nothing at Oakleigh to suggest he's draftable - capable athletically as he is. He needs to start delivering on matchday.

Will Kelly I didn't see anything in as a forward and until last week is one I would have said I would have steered well clear of. V Country he showed genuine progress and looks like he may have found his spot as a key defender. I'm now more interested in what he has to offer through the second half of the season. If he keeps improving down back - intercepting and winning his 1v1s, he could be draftable in the latter portion or as a rookie.

So Our Academy and Father Sons are pretty much Worth Rookie Pick at Best?

 

[Knightmare]

So you think Collingwood can do lot Better then Him and only take him IF he lasts to the 3rd Round at Earliest?


So Our Academy and Father Sons are pretty much Worth Rookie Pick at Best?

Yes, Pies can do better within the first two rounds than Quaynor with good talent ID.

Kelly's worth is increasing if he continues to go well as a key defender.

Wraith at this stage doesn't look to be worth picking.

Atu is for mine worth a late pick, but he should be there as a rookie.

Kelly I've gone from viewing as not worth drafting to probably worth a rookie pick, though with further improvement I'm open minded to taking him in the national draft depending on how the second half of his season looks.

Quaynor in the 3rd round I'd be comfortable taking.

 

[TradeDraft]

VFL Draft Prospects

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader...s/news-story/f9ae7febf3cfec17f7fab7cb572b5974

 

[Snoop Dog]

I rate Quaynor around 40 if I'm to extend out my power rankings which is why I wouldn't be able to justify using a choice inside the first 30. If clubs rate him top 30, I'd be more than happy for Collingwood to pass on him and take a better talent.

He's an advanced prospect physically. Can run and take on the game some but not at a high level.

Kicking is adequate but not great - he'll blast long, rarely lowers his eyes. Reliability to targets is fine when he actually spots one out but doesn't often enough.

Capable 1v1, able intercepter without being an elite reader.

He's someone who can be a role player, and with his body so advanced, he can play sooner rather than later, but I'm not seeing anything that makes me as enthusiastic as other recruiters seem to be.

I've seen a lot of Quaynor, and my view coming out of each game is the same.

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Bailey Wraith I don't have getting picked. People at Carey speak him up and say he's a quality guy who will work, but he's done nothing at Oakleigh to suggest he's draftable - capable athletically as he is. He needs to start delivering on matchday.

Will Kelly I didn't see anything in as a forward and until last week is one I would have said I would have steered well clear of. V Country he showed genuine progress and looks like he may have found his spot as a key defender. I'm now more interested in what he has to offer through the second half of the season. If he keeps improving down back - intercepting and winning his 1v1s, he could be draftable in the latter portion or as a rookie.

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Other recruiters don't seem to be talking about him, but Atu is someone I'd draft in a hurry as a rookie. Pressure/tackling is fantastic. He's a high % contested ball winner. Don't know how he test, but he feels quick in game and like someone who could grow into that pressure/crumbing small forward role. Of those Collingwood have priority access to, he's the one I'd make a point of taking.

Atu a talent but I want to see the year unfold and what he offers. Been a few kids like him over years feted and dont make it. To be fair has more intensity than a few am thinking of.

Will politely disagree on Quaynor. Know you have watched a lot as well but what I have seen has impressed me. He is getting the balance right between his attack and defence and his running to position is good.

Do agree re Wraith. He hasnt done much but I want to see how the year unfolds for him. His coach is a big advocate.

Re Kelly yep his progression has been terrific of late and reckon he is a defender. Again want to track but the trajectory is there and the physical attributes are there. He is still a later pick for me.

I deliberately have looked at any rankings yet as dont like to have a look until post champs when I have set mine but my top 25 or so am happy with but after that am neither he nor there.

 

[Snoop Dog]

Why do you think that we will pick Wraith up and not Atu

Sorry not saying we wont with Atu but like Wraith I think there is a fair bit to go before either get selected.

 

[Snoop Dog]

Also Kelly looked pretty solid. Reckon we'll pick him up?

Yep I cant see us passing on him.

 

[TradeDraft]

Sorry not saying we wont with Atu but like Wraith I think there is a fair bit to go before either get selected.

Could he be someone that we Bring into our VFL List?

 

[Matt_352]

What pick is Irving Mosquito looking like going at

 

[loki04]

What pick is Irving Mosquito looking like going at

Bloody late.

I know, I know.

 

[Johno9911]

Hey Knightmare was wondering if I could get some thoughts on Buku Khamis? I know he's tied to the bulldogs, but I was very impressed with how he played on Sunday. Looks like a good user of the ball, who also defends his man well and has some great traits both defensively and offensively.

Would be curious to see who you like more out of him and Quaynor?

 

[Snoop Dog]

Could he be someone that we Bring into our VFL List?

Yeah for sure.

 

[Knightmare]

Hey Knightmare was wondering if I could get some thoughts on Buku Khamis? I know he's tied to the bulldogs, but I was very impressed with how he played on Sunday. Looks like a good user of the ball, who also defends his man well and has some great traits both defensively and offensively.

Would be curious to see who you like more out of him and Quaynor?

He's good. Athletic, really good user, intercepts and can shut down his opponents.

He's inside my top 40 and fringe of top 30.

I do favour Buku slightly to Quaynor, though they're in the same conversation.

 

[Knightmare]

What pick is Irving Mosquito looking like going at

Probably goes to Hawks as a rookie.

 

[TradeDraft]

Probably goes to Hawks as a rookie.

Is he in there Acadamey?

 

[Knightmare]

Is he in there Acadamey?

Yep.

 

[Knightmare]

Thought I'd mention while I'm here

*Just gave Kelly a quick mention in my weekly wrap for his performance for Vic Metro in their win v Country - see signature if interested.

 

[RGpies]

Not high enough (11). Was concerned about his heart issues. Had that not been a concern, I may have had him at 6 - behind Rayner/LDU/Cerra/Dow/D.Fogarty.

Darcy Fogarty was the one I would have chosen, heart issue or not on draft day.

Stephenson is making a great case that he should have gone pick 1 or close though. Having a terrific debut season.

For us non draft watchers - what was he like when he played midfield time and what can you see him becoming in the future?

 

[Knightmare]

For us non draft watchers - what was he like when he played midfield time and what can you see him becoming in the future?

Stephenson can win it which is the most essential thing and tells us he can play through the midfield. He's not an elite contested ball winner, but a capable one and can shark it from the ruck contest.

What I feel he does best though is provide outside run on the wings - that's where long term I'd like to see him settle as that position he impacts games most.