List Mgmt. 2018 Draft thread.

[pugsville]

I'min the GCRAF Get Connor Rozee action faction. Could be available at our pick, teh sort of guy to add immediate our currnet game style,

 

[Saintly Viewed]

I'min the GCRAF Get Connor Rozee action faction. Could be available at our pick, teh sort of guy to add immediate our currnet game style,

Nice type I’m told.

I’m told there is this Curtis guy who has done some views of the club or some such.

 

[Soups]

I'min the GCRAF Get Connor Rozee action faction. Could be available at our pick, teh sort of guy to add immediate our currnet game style,

Rozee I have liked but his champs were disappointing imo. Could be one that might slip down the order a bit depending on the rest of his year of course.

 

[legendstatus]

After watching the u18 Issac yes 2-3 round, Will just a plodder, rookie at best.


Sent from my Warped mind [emoji89]

 

[Harry O]

Nice type I’m told.

I’m told there is this Curtis guy who has done some views of the club or some such.

Curtis Taylor played in a senior flag under Mick McGuane didn’t he?

Looks a very smart type

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Curtis Taylor played in a senior flag under Mick McGuane didn’t he?

Looks a very smart type

Sounds like him.
Not certain the surname. But sounds right.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Curtis Taylor played in a senior flag under Mick McGuane didn’t he?

Looks a very smart type

I just checked, yep, him.

Should be top 30 Maybe top 20 even possible. Could be ours perhaps.

 

[Pie 4 Life]

It was nice having a reporter that actually you know, did their job properly and reported.

She wasn’t doing it so her team got the upper hand or anything, she purely did it because she loved getting to know the players and what made them tick.

Yep, I prefer reading (and writing) detailed profiles over rankings per say too.

 

[whiskeytown]

Yep Knightmare is big on Curtis Taylor to the pies given we are now looking at a pick 10+ in the draft. Maybe he can fill us in a bit more as to why Taylor would fit in at the pies... ?

Here's his ESPN article with a focus on Taylor

http://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/...ghtmare-calder-mid-showing-robbie-gray-traits

 

[soreplums]

Yep Knightmare is big on Curtis Taylor to the pies given we are now looking at a pick 10+ in the draft. Maybe he can fill us in a bit more as to why Taylor would fit in at the pies... ?

Here's his ESPN article with a focus on Taylor

http://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/...ghtmare-calder-mid-showing-robbie-gray-traits

Jason Wild’s son had 9/10 effective kicks!

 

[Apex36]

Jason Wild’s son had 9/10 effective kicks!

I’m more interested in Jordan Butts seemingly dominating on a frequent basis. I wanted him last year as a late/rookie selection and he seems to be having a great year.

 

[DialMforMagro]

I’m more interested in Jordan Butts seemingly dominating on a frequent basis. I wanted him last year as a late/rookie selection and he seems to be having a great year.

son of seymour?

 

[partypie]

son of seymour?

No I think he's the son of Philmore - Seymour is his uncle.

 

[Stoods]

Knightmare is Daly Andrews any chance of being drafted do you think? Is from my area and got friends that are close to him

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Jason Wild’s son had 9/10 effective kicks!

He’s running wild.


Who remembers that call out when Jason was going around?

 

[Matt_352]

I’m more interested in Jordan Butts seemingly dominating on a frequent basis. I wanted him last year as a late/rookie selection and he seems to be having a great year.

Would fit right in with his surname

 

[Knightmare]

Knightmare is Daly Andrews any chance of being drafted do you think? Is from my area and got friends that are close to him

A draft chance being in the Vic Metro squad but if he goes it won't be early.

Reasonable outside player. Provides run and is a capable ball user. Not a big time ball winner, but plays with some aggression and will tackle, smother and do the dirty work as required.

 

[Soups]

To get this thread up and running again...Knightmare can you go through the players you picked in the BF phantom draft for the people who weren’t aware there was one completed?

Cheers mate.

 

[Knightmare]

Link for those interested: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2018-big-footy-phantom-draft-trial-run.1199087/

For those wanting some info on those I selected (note - there was no priority for this exercise on academy and father-son picks, all in the draft as free for all picks hence Quaynor was not available to me at 51/52):

16 - Collingwood - Connor McFadyen (QLD - Brisbane Academy)
Best position: Inside midfield/general forward
Height, weight: 190cm, 88kg
Similar to: Nat Fyfe
Strengths:
Contested ball winning
Distribution by hand
Stoppage work
Marking threat forward of centre
Contested marking
Reading of the ball in flight
Protects the drop of the ball
One-on-one strength
Scoreboard impact
Clean at ground level
Just as effective forward as he is through the midfield
Weaknesses:
Pace
Agility

More than happy to snag the Allies best mid and most dangerous forward. Tall ball winning midfielders who are hard to stop forward of centre add tremendous value and McFadyen is the best in the draft at it.

Also considered Xavier O'Halloran and Sydney Stack if I wanted more speed, but ultimately I went with the clear best available.

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51. Collingwood - Will Kelly (F/S)
A Collingwood father-son choice. Collingwood need a key defender, and Kelly is developing nicely coming along over the course of the U18 Champs and looking like Oakleigh's best v Calder in his first game back. Has the closing speed to keep with guys on the lead. Competes well 1v1 and doesn't concede easy marks. Very athletic, provides run from defence and reads the drop of the ball effectively. An overall developable player which is what you look for in a KPP.

52. Collingwood - Mitch Podhajski
Maybe I like tall mids who can go forward? But I'm not going to look a gift horse in the mouth when I can get a high quality 190cm mid. Overager who has kicked 14 goals from 8 games. One of the most powerful inside ball winners and also one of the most dangerous when he pushes forward. Has the proven VFL performances behind him. A big time improver who is AFL-ready.

*Tom Sparrow was a strong consideration here but I let him slide mostly to see where he would go.

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70 - Collingwood - Kyle Reid
Collingwood need lots of key defenders so why not take an u18 All-Australian key defender? Athletic, competes well 1v1 and can negate an opponents influence. What's most impressive is his intercept marking - both with the way he reads the flight and can peel off, but also 1v1 he gets good body position in contests and can take marks. 9 marks (5 contested) last round v GSV Rebels is just a glimpse into what Reid can do at his best. A potential successor to Ben Reid and a potential compliment for Will Kelly in the long term.

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88 - Collingwood - Martin Frederick
If I want a guy who can provide run and dash from defence there is no better in this draft class than Martin Frederick. Absolutely lit it up for SA with that sheer acceleration with which he takes on the game. He's a linebreaker with elite speed, agility and evasiveness using it in game as well as any outside of perhaps Rankine. I'm also a fan of his kicking with some of his low bullet kicks a highlight.

Overall Frederick isn't a pressing need but he was the standout value choice.

My other consideration was Atu Bosenavulagi, but given he's still here and Collingwood have priority to him as an academy prospect, if this was to extend to a rookie draft, I'd take him there as that ideal long term pressure forward who wins the ground balls as well as any small forward in this draft class.


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An overall handy haul. McFadyen and Podhajski in a similar way to De Goey give you a lot of options as those genuine ball winning mids who can provide key targets up front and can be used to allow for larger midfield rotation and reduce that need for extra key forwards to be acquired if the right options can't be had. On value I like both with McFadyen inside my top 10 and Podhajski inside my top 30 power rankings for perspective.

Kelly and Reid as key defenders add to the KPP stocks and both have the scope to develop. Neither are season one AFL ready and you wouldn't expect other than Jack Lukosius for any of the KPPs to be ready to play regular footy in season one anyway. But they both have scope to develop and should go a fair bit earlier on draft day than where I took them respectively which added to the appeal. Suitable needs selections without being those absolute top guys on my draft board at those selections, with those others considered in roughly that same conversation making me lean towards getting those KPPs who can fill the clubs most pressing long term needs.

Frederick is a luxury selection but that only remaining player inside my top 40.

 

[Chrispiesssss]

Link for those interested: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2018-big-footy-phantom-draft-trial-run.1199087/

For those wanting some info on those I selected (note - there was no priority for this exercise on academy and father-son picks, all in the draft as free for all picks hence Quaynor was not available to me at 51/52):

16 - Collingwood - Connor McFadyen (QLD - Brisbane Academy)
Best position: Inside midfield/general forward
Height, weight: 190cm, 88kg
Similar to: Nat Fyfe
Strengths:
Contested ball winning
Distribution by hand
Stoppage work
Marking threat forward of centre
Contested marking
Reading of the ball in flight
Protects the drop of the ball
One-on-one strength
Scoreboard impact
Clean at ground level
Just as effective forward as he is through the midfield
Weaknesses:
Pace
Agility

More than happy to snag the Allies best mid and most dangerous forward. Tall ball winning midfielders who are hard to stop forward of centre add tremendous value and McFadyen is the best in the draft at it.

Also considered Xavier O'Halloran and Sydney Stack if I wanted more speed, but ultimately I went with the clear best available.

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51. Collingwood - Will Kelly (F/S)
A Collingwood father-son choice. Collingwood need a key defender, and Kelly is developing nicely coming along over the course of the U18 Champs and looking like Oakleigh's best v Calder in his first game back. Has the closing speed to keep with guys on the lead. Competes well 1v1 and doesn't concede easy marks. Very athletic, provides run from defence and reads the drop of the ball effectively. An overall developable player which is what you look for in a KPP.

52. Collingwood - Mitch Podhajski
Maybe I like tall mids who can go forward? But I'm not going to look a gift horse in the mouth when I can get a high quality 190cm mid. Overager who has kicked 14 goals from 8 games. One of the most powerful inside ball winners and also one of the most dangerous when he pushes forward. Has the proven VFL performances behind him. A big time improver who is AFL-ready.

*Tom Sparrow was a strong consideration here but I let him slide mostly to see where he would go.

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70 - Collingwood - Kyle Reid
Collingwood need lots of key defenders so why not take an u18 All-Australian key defender? Athletic, competes well 1v1 and can negate an opponents influence. What's most impressive is his intercept marking - both with the way he reads the flight and can peel off, but also 1v1 he gets good body position in contests and can take marks. 9 marks (5 contested) last round v GSV Rebels is just a glimpse into what Reid can do at his best. A potential successor to Ben Reid and a potential compliment for Will Kelly in the long term.

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88 - Collingwood - Martin Frederick
If I want a guy who can provide run and dash from defence there is no better in this draft class than Martin Frederick. Absolutely lit it up for SA with that sheer acceleration with which he takes on the game. He's a linebreaker with elite speed, agility and evasiveness using it in game as well as any outside of perhaps Rankine. I'm also a fan of his kicking with some of his low bullet kicks a highlight.

Overall Frederick isn't a pressing need but he was the standout value choice.

My other consideration was Atu Bosenavulagi, but given he's still here and Collingwood have priority to him as an academy prospect, if this was to extend to a rookie draft, I'd take him there as that ideal long term pressure forward who wins the ground balls as well as any small forward in this draft class.


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An overall handy haul. McFadyen and Podhajski in a similar way to De Goey give you a lot of options as those genuine ball winning mids who can provide key targets up front and can be used to allow for larger midfield rotation and reduce that need for extra key forwards to be acquired if the right options can't be had. On value I like both with McFadyen inside my top 10 and Podhajski inside my top 30 power rankings for perspective.

Kelly and Reid as key defenders add to the KPP stocks and both have the scope to develop. Neither are season one AFL ready and you wouldn't expect other than Jack Lukosius for any of the KPPs to be ready to play regular footy in season one anyway. But they both have scope to develop and should go a fair bit earlier on draft day than where I took them respectively which added to the appeal. Suitable needs selections without being those absolute top guys on my draft board at those selections, with those others considered in roughly that same conversation making me lean towards getting those KPPs who can fill the clubs most pressing long term needs.

Frederick is a luxury selection but that only remaining player inside my top 40.

Where’s IQ!?!

 

[Knightmare]

Where’s IQ!?!

Taken. It was free for all (no bidding) with the academy and father-son choices.

Quaynor was gone before my second choice.

 

[soreplums]

Genuine question.

If we enter draft night with pick 16 = x amount of points, but this pick gets pushed to pick 18 or 19 due to father/son or academy bids, do our points remain the same amount as it was at pick 16 or is it recalculated to the points at pick 18/19?

 

[Soups]

What’s your take on the mature age player josh Corbett KM? Got an invite to the combine I see. Would you still take Podhajski over him as an overager.

 

[Knightmare]

Genuine question.

If we enter draft night with pick 16 = x amount of points, but this pick gets pushed to pick 18 or 19 due to father/son or academy bids, do our points remain the same amount as it was at pick 16 or is it recalculated to the points at pick 18/19?

Gets calculated as what the pick becomes with the points.

If bids come before Collingwood's first pick, I'd hope they hard pass on both Kelly and Quaynor and get someone better. Neither are top 30 prospects on quality let alone top 20.

 

[Soups]

Link for those interested: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2018-big-footy-phantom-draft-trial-run.1199087/

For those wanting some info on those I selected (note - there was no priority for this exercise on academy and father-son picks, all in the draft as free for all picks hence Quaynor was not available to me at 51/52):

16 - Collingwood - Connor McFadyen (QLD - Brisbane Academy)
Best position: Inside midfield/general forward
Height, weight: 190cm, 88kg
Similar to: Nat Fyfe
Strengths:
Contested ball winning
Distribution by hand
Stoppage work
Marking threat forward of centre
Contested marking
Reading of the ball in flight
Protects the drop of the ball
One-on-one strength
Scoreboard impact
Clean at ground level
Just as effective forward as he is through the midfield
Weaknesses:
Pace
Agility

More than happy to snag the Allies best mid and most dangerous forward. Tall ball winning midfielders who are hard to stop forward of centre add tremendous value and McFadyen is the best in the draft at it.

Also considered Xavier O'Halloran and Sydney Stack if I wanted more speed, but ultimately I went with the clear best available.

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51. Collingwood - Will Kelly (F/S)
A Collingwood father-son choice. Collingwood need a key defender, and Kelly is developing nicely coming along over the course of the U18 Champs and looking like Oakleigh's best v Calder in his first game back. Has the closing speed to keep with guys on the lead. Competes well 1v1 and doesn't concede easy marks. Very athletic, provides run from defence and reads the drop of the ball effectively. An overall developable player which is what you look for in a KPP.

52. Collingwood - Mitch Podhajski
Maybe I like tall mids who can go forward? But I'm not going to look a gift horse in the mouth when I can get a high quality 190cm mid. Overager who has kicked 14 goals from 8 games. One of the most powerful inside ball winners and also one of the most dangerous when he pushes forward. Has the proven VFL performances behind him. A big time improver who is AFL-ready.

*Tom Sparrow was a strong consideration here but I let him slide mostly to see where he would go.

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70 - Collingwood - Kyle Reid
Collingwood need lots of key defenders so why not take an u18 All-Australian key defender? Athletic, competes well 1v1 and can negate an opponents influence. What's most impressive is his intercept marking - both with the way he reads the flight and can peel off, but also 1v1 he gets good body position in contests and can take marks. 9 marks (5 contested) last round v GSV Rebels is just a glimpse into what Reid can do at his best. A potential successor to Ben Reid and a potential compliment for Will Kelly in the long term.

--
88 - Collingwood - Martin Frederick
If I want a guy who can provide run and dash from defence there is no better in this draft class than Martin Frederick. Absolutely lit it up for SA with that sheer acceleration with which he takes on the game. He's a linebreaker with elite speed, agility and evasiveness using it in game as well as any outside of perhaps Rankine. I'm also a fan of his kicking with some of his low bullet kicks a highlight.

Overall Frederick isn't a pressing need but he was the standout value choice.

My other consideration was Atu Bosenavulagi, but given he's still here and Collingwood have priority to him as an academy prospect, if this was to extend to a rookie draft, I'd take him there as that ideal long term pressure forward who wins the ground balls as well as any small forward in this draft class.


--
An overall handy haul. McFadyen and Podhajski in a similar way to De Goey give you a lot of options as those genuine ball winning mids who can provide key targets up front and can be used to allow for larger midfield rotation and reduce that need for extra key forwards to be acquired if the right options can't be had. On value I like both with McFadyen inside my top 10 and Podhajski inside my top 30 power rankings for perspective.

Kelly and Reid as key defenders add to the KPP stocks and both have the scope to develop. Neither are season one AFL ready and you wouldn't expect other than Jack Lukosius for any of the KPPs to be ready to play regular footy in season one anyway. But they both have scope to develop and should go a fair bit earlier on draft day than where I took them respectively which added to the appeal. Suitable needs selections without being those absolute top guys on my draft board at those selections, with those others considered in roughly that same conversation making me lean towards getting those KPPs who can fill the clubs most pressing long term needs.

Frederick is a luxury selection but that only remaining player inside my top 40.

Really like these selections KM. Good mix of players I feel. Addresses our key backs and adds some run from defence.

As well as a taller midfield types that Hine likes to pick. Podhajski has got me very interested this year. Has dominated TAC in his top age as well as playing some really good footy in the VFL. Could definitely be a Hine type imo.