List Mgmt. 2018 Draft thread.

[TradeDraft]

lol at the HS story about Adelaide spoiling our party by potentially bidding on both IQ and Kelly.
Like it's a major issue going into "deficit" for 2019.

Hopefully they Trade Up Then

 

[TradeDraft]

Father son and zone nominations - we've nominated Kelly, Quaynor, Bosenavulagi and Wraith. If not selected in the ND one of the latter two may become our third category b rookie.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-11-20/afl-reveals-list-of-fathersons-and-academy-draft-nominees



https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/af...s/news-story/024ecb1d2aa47e2e9d2acf386ff8cb5f



http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL Tenant/AFL/Files/AFL-Rules-June-2017.PDF

Interesting we have Nominated Wraith as he seen even a Long Chance to be Rookied. Must be thinking of putting him on the Cat B Rookie List

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

Interesting we have Nominated Wraith as he seen even a Long Chance to be Rookied. Must be thinking of putting him on the Cat B Rookie List

Agreed. No harm in making him a Cat B I say.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Folks

Ok let’s assume we are taking

Quaynor (what a great name by the way) and f/s Kelly.

Assuming we likely have another pick down back who will it be?

• Stick your necks out....

I’ll go for Noah Gown simply based on a key sized player who might be available and shows talent (by what I’ve heard and read).

Pie 4 Life Snoop Dog Knightmare

 

[TradeDraft]

Will SEN be covering Day 2 of the draft? Might have to take a radio into the office.

I could not see why not as SEN are the best Radio station for the Draft

 

[nahnah]

Least interest in a draft ever

 

[Apex36]

I guess not worth Reading any Mock Draft as they just are Full of Lies and Nothing worth Reading

They are not all right but there give possible outcomes that might happen

Why did you feel the need to take the leap to saying lies? Nobody said squat about phantoms lying, that’s your imagination running wild. Phantom drafts are guesses as to where players are going to be drafted, nothing more, nothing less. Some guesses are more educated than others, but at the end of it you have to take it all with a massive grain of salt, because as we found with Twomey in 2017, there’s a lot of cases where he’s just throwing darts and hoping they’ll stick.
It actually wouldn’t surprise me if recruiters fed him false info for the shits and giggles tbh. His phantom having Adelaide bidding on pretty much every NGA/FS prospect is just ludicrous.

As for them being worth reading? Some are, some aren’t. Twomey falls in to the latter category for me. He is a joke when it comes to junior talent id.

 

[partypie]

Zero chance we pass on Quaynor and Kelly unless the points deficit is so great that under the AFL rules we can't take both and that would appear a unlikely scenario.

And why would we when we have no 1st round selection in 2019 and bypassing Kelly who is expected to attract an early to mid 2nd round bid in preference to retaining our 2019 2nd round selection means we have to wait a further 12 months to get a quality prospect into our system.

Nup.

I fully expect Quaynor and Kelly to be Collingwood players come Friday afternoon.

Using Callum Twomey's phantom draft as an example we would need 1,474 points to match bids on Quaynor at 15 and Kelly at 25 - this would leave us with a 224 point deficit for next year (pushing our second round pick back to a mid-to-late third round pick), push our third selection back to the very end of this draft and we'd have no ability to match a bid on Atu before pick 56, if that is what we have in mind.

(actually I'm not sure if we could match a bid on him at all if we're in deficit, based on what is stated in the bid matching rules)

Based on nibbles that have been coming out of the club I'm guessing that our recruiting team aren't expecting bids to come on one or both of Quaynor and Kelly as high as everyone is saying and that perhaps they're not expecting to be in deficit at all, maybe even holding onto part of pick 60 so that we still have a pick in the 4th round to take a flyer on someone (Atu if he is still there, Munn or someone else).

All we need is to hang onto 10 or more points after matching the bids on Quaynor and Kelly and we will still have an end of 4th round pick (instead of having to potentially wait for every other team to pick over the scraps before our third selection at pick 90).

 

[Saintly Viewed]

As for them being worth reading? Some are, some aren’t. Twomey falls in to the latter category for me. He is a joke when it comes to junior talent id.

i think that is nail head, right there.

He’s likely, just not very good at talent ID and follows the known patterns and known players.

I do give him a tick for at least putting it out there but that’s about it. And in terms of “trusting” his order, a firm no from me.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Ned Guy is saying there is another player in the draft but he wasnt willing to give anything away that we are keen on. Must be a late pick as early picks will go to Quaynor and Kelly. IIRC this player is a KP player.

That’s not how you do it, Ned, bring back Perty!

 

[jackcass]

Interesting we have Nominated Wraith as he seen even a Long Chance to be Rookied. Must be thinking of putting him on the Cat B Rookie List

Those nominations get lodged fairly early in the year don't they Dave? If so it'd be silly not to nominate all the players available as you never know what the year might bring.

 

[jackcass]

Folks

Ok let’s assume we are taking

Quaynor (what a great name by the way) and f/s Kelly.

Assuming we likely have another pick down back who will it be?

• Stick your necks out....

I’ll go for Noah Gown simply based on a key sized player who might be available and shows talent (by what I’ve heard and read).

Pie 4 Life Snoop Dog Knightmare

If we use our picks to match on IQ and Kelly then I'm not sure Gown would still be available at our residual pick(s). Hard to see us passing on A2B2 as a free hit late in the draft or in the RD.

 

[Crazy Tails]

Why the concern?

Ha Ha. Fair point!

 

[Shade]

Least interest in a draft ever

Indeed we essentially already know who were getting aswell.

 

[Copeland]

Gee I hope we get Atu

http://www.afl.com.au/draft/draft-machine

Type in Atu Bosenavualagi

 

[AusMC]

Folks

Ok let’s assume we are taking

Quaynor (what a great name by the way) and f/s Kelly.

Assuming we likely have another pick down back who will it be?

• Stick your necks out....

I’ll go for Noah Gown simply based on a key sized player who might be available and shows talent (by what I’ve heard and read).

Pie 4 Life Snoop Dog Knightmare

Grundy jr? Marty Hore? Tom Jok?

 

[Pie 4 Life]

Folks

Ok let’s assume we are taking

Quaynor (what a great name by the way) and f/s Kelly.

Assuming we likely have another pick down back who will it be?

• Stick your necks out....

I’ll go for Noah Gown simply based on a key sized player who might be available and shows talent (by what I’ve heard and read).

Pie 4 Life Snoop Dog Knightmare

Jack Mayo.

 

[jackcass]

Jack Mayo.

Injuries?

 

[Pie 4 Life]

Injuries?

Yeah he’s had a few. I’ll put a fair bit on it being a WA kid though. Might be Patrick Farrant or maybe a Graydon Wilson if they just go best available around that stage in the 80s.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Yeah he’s had a few. I’ll put a fair bit on it being a WA kid though. Might be Patrick Farrant or maybe a Graydon Wilson if they just go best available around that stage in the 80s.

Very good.
Very apt.

 

[Horaceg]

http://www.afl.com.au/draft/draft-machine

Type in Atu Bosenavualagi

Love the don't argue, need to start a few rumours about his dicky knee.

 

[Crazy Tails]

http://www.afl.com.au/draft/draft-machine

Type in Atu Bosenavualagi

Anyone else having problems playing the draft videos in the draft machine?

Wondering if I have an out dated browser of if my virus protection is blocking something.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Anyone else having problems playing the draft videos in the draft machine?

Wondering if I have an out dated browser of if my virus protection is blocking something.

Me either.
Maybe high usage?

 

[Horaceg]

I guess not worth Reading any Mock Draft as they just are Full of Lies and Nothing worth Reading

They are not all right but there give possible outcomes that might happen

Just someone's best guess really based on truths, half truths, gut and guess work.

 

[Mkcaptain]