2018 Draft thread

[jackess]

If Rankine isn't drafted in the top 4 then hopefully the Crows offer us their first and Carltons second rounder for our first.

~ Pick 5 for pick 9 and 24.

 

[briztoon]

If Rankine isn't drafted in the top 4 then hopefully the Crows offer us their first and Carltons second rounder for our first.

~ Pick 5 for pick 9 and 24.

I’d want more. Their two first picks for our first and second.

But 9 and 24 would be a reasonable return.

 

[bungalow_bill]

I’d want more. Their two first picks for our first and second.

But 9 and 24 would be a reasonable return.

Yeah the Crows will be desperate for Rankine. If the trade isn't heavily in our favour we say no thanks and use pick 5 (or 4). No way to 9 and 24. Bend them over as they did with Cameron

 

[TheHairyGamer]

Yeah there first 2 for our first ideally if they want him. Would be open to our first 2 for their 3 though as well if needed

 

[Cobbler]

Hi guys.

Interested in your comments regarding trading pick 4 if Rankine was still on the table and trying to shaft Adelaide. Freo have had similar discussions on our board, but the reality is he is highly unlikely to be there at our pick.

Anyway, I think Rankine would be superb with your style of play. Why would you give that up? Unless you think Rankine is a massive flight risk.

Don't mind the way you're going about your rebuild either. Clearly an exciting brand and if you get it right you're in the game obviously if you turn it over you'll get scored against. I'd prefer to watch that then how Freo are going about it. Although we're probably a couple of years behind you guys in the whole rebuild plan.

 

[TheHairyGamer]

Hi guys.

Interested in your comments regarding trading pick 4 if Rankine was still on the table and trying to shaft Adelaide. Freo have had similar discussions on our board, but the reality is he is highly unlikely to be there at our pick.

Anyway, I think Rankine would be superb with your style of play. Why would you give that up? Unless you think Rankine is a massive flight risk.

Don't mind the way you're going about your rebuild either. Clearly an exciting brand and if you get it right you're in the game obviously if you turn it over you'll get scored against. I'd prefer to watch that then how Freo are going about it. Although we're probably a couple of years behind you guys in the whole rebuild plan.

I think some people think that we have a lot of players who are similar in ways to Rankine already, and if passing on him means we get 2 other first round picks it would be worth it. Some logic in that regardless anyway. Has worked in the past and could again. Might also backfire.

It is one of those where it is hard to have everyone here agree on the right path in that sense until a few years later when you see the players taken at those picks.

 

[jackess]

If there weren't any concerns about him going home I'd pick Rankine and then go for an inside mid later in the draft.

 

[briztoon]

just musing about GC.

If Bailey Scott picks GC and to stay “home”, they could pick Lukosius and Ben King with their first two picks and then load up on mids with their late first and second round picks.

They have a couple of academy talls this year, and looks like a couple of good mids in their academy for next year.

 

[chopperduck]

If Rankine is still there at our pick then i reckon we would seriously look at a trade. Would depend on our rankings and if we think a player we like will still be at 9. But the ability to pick up an extra pick would be invaluable. Pick 5 for the crows first 2 picks, even if we then still swap our 2nd for their 3rd or something would be value. If McFayden is going to be around that 20-25ish mark, trying to move our 2nd pick forward wouldnt be a bad idea.

 

[Chezz]

If Rankine is still there at our pick then i reckon we would seriously look at a trade. Would depend on our rankings and if we think a player we like will still be at 9. But the ability to pick up an extra pick would be invaluable. Pick 5 for the crows first 2 picks, even if we then still swap our 2nd for their 3rd or something would be value. If McFayden is going to be around that 20-25ish mark, trying to move our 2nd pick forward wouldnt be a bad idea.

If Rankine is avaliable at our pick, we should take him and not consider a trade on any level. The kid is an absolute jet

 

[13Beast]

Hi guys.

Interested in your comments regarding trading pick 4 if Rankine was still on the table and trying to shaft Adelaide. Freo have had similar discussions on our board, but the reality is he is highly unlikely to be there at our pick.

Anyway, I think Rankine would be superb with your style of play. Why would you give that up? Unless you think Rankine is a massive flight risk.

Don't mind the way you're going about your rebuild either. Clearly an exciting brand and if you get it right you're in the game obviously if you turn it over you'll get scored against. I'd prefer to watch that then how Freo are going about it. Although we're probably a couple of years behind you guys in the whole rebuild plan.

You should've traded out Ross Lyon years ago

 

[Cobbler]

You should've traded out Ross Lyon years ago

How many years ago? I mean it’s easy in hindsight but he did take us to a GF in 2013 and minor premiers in 2015.

So 2016? I mean that wouldn’t have made sense. 2017? Well all of a sudden that’s not years ago. That’s last year.

He may be past his use by date and his style not suited but your comment is easy in hindsight.

 

[BuntonRules]

How many years ago? I mean it’s easy in hindsight but he did take us to a GF in 2013 and minor premiers in 2015.

So 2016? I mean that wouldn’t have made sense. 2017? Well all of a sudden that’s not years ago. That’s last year.

He may be past his use by date and his style not suited but your comment is easy in hindsight.

And the complete defence style he had you playing cost you both games.

 

[Cobbler]

And the complete defence style he had you playing cost you both games.

Probably. But we got to the GF didn’t we? I mean that’s 16 other teams we surpassed and lost to quite possibly the best team of the modern era in the middle of their run.

Look I get the hate for Lyon and his boring style but he was/ is the best at that style.

To simply say we lost because Lyon was coach? Sorry that’s a dumb comment. I find it comical the number of posters that say ‘Lyon won’t ever win a flag’ forgetting the fact there’s a bucket load of other coaches past and present that have never got close.

 

[lioninthesand]

There was talk on 360 about PP's and I am not sure if I heard correctly, but im fairly sure Chris Scott threw up Lions as an example / hypothetical as he was talking - and basically said 'people might point to the Lions and say they should get one, well... there NO WAY brisbane should be getting a PP'.. and everyone just nodded, it was a very casual and excepted remark, clearly highlighting how much respect he has for our young list, but also making a statement that he and Id assume others in the industry will not be happy if we get one.

Part of me liked it.. the respect of not being considered a rabble.

Imo there is no way we will get a PP.

 

[Saucery]

Ross Lyons fearless defensive style with strong tacking and bumping is what made his name with Fitzroy and the Bears, so it's no surprise he coaches the same way. Cobbler didn't come here to troll so let's leave off denigrating an ex-club stalwart can we?

 

[Dalions]

There was talk on 360 about PP's and I am not sure if I heard correctly, but im fairly sure Chris Scott threw up Lions as an example / hypothetical as he was talking - and basically said 'people might point to the Lions and say they should get one, well... there NO WAY brisbane should be getting a PP'.. and everyone just nodded, it was a very casual and excepted remark, clearly highlighting how much respect he has for our young list, but also making a statement that he and Id assume others in the industry will not be happy if we get one.

Part of me liked it.. the respect of not being considered a rabble.

Imo there is no way we will get a PP.

Competition is getting scared of Fagan’s Men!

 

[SizeMatters]

Really? I've read it all now... Trade Rankins if he is available? Absolute ****ing stupidity No one like him in the draft and is a match winner. We need classy mids and he fits that perfectly.

 

[Fagenslions36]

Agree take him if available at very least bidding war between port and crows if he wants to return . I’d back in Fagan and lions to keep him.

 

[jjami15]

There was talk on 360 about PP's and I am not sure if I heard correctly, but im fairly sure Chris Scott threw up Lions as an example / hypothetical as he was talking - and basically said 'people might point to the Lions and say they should get one, well... there NO WAY brisbane should be getting a PP'.. and everyone just nodded, it was a very casual and excepted remark, clearly highlighting how much respect he has for our young list, but also making a statement that he and Id assume others in the industry will not be happy if we get one.

Part of me liked it.. the respect of not being considered a rabble.

Imo there is no way we will get a PP.

Chris Scott's last comment was directly related to PP's at the beginning of the draft and eventhough it was right at the end of the segment as they went to the ad-break the others on the panel were a resounding no.

It should also be noted that (without actually highlighting Carton) Scott commented on about trading out senior experienced players for draft picks and that clubs are part of the reason that they're in their current situation and shouldn't be rewarded with PP's.

 

[BuntonRules]

Ross Lyons fearless defensive style with strong tacking and bumping is what made his name with Fitzroy and the Bears, so it's no surprise he coaches the same way. Cobbler didn't come here to troll so let's leave off denigrating an ex-club stalwart can we?

Just made an honest assessment of his coaching, mate. Club stalwart r not, he is coaching an opposition team and if you don't like the reaction to your posting, don't post.

 

[irish]

don't think we need worry about rankine , he will be well gone before we get a pick

 

[lioninthesand]

Chris Scott's last comment was directly related to PP's at the beginning of the draft and eventhough it was right at the end of the segment as they went to the ad-break the others on the panel were a resounding no.

It should also be noted that (without actually highlighting Carton) Scott commented on about trading out senior experienced players for draft picks and that clubs are part of the reason that they're in their current situation and shouldn't be rewarded with PP's.

Yeah, I got that and i agree, I don't even think we should be awarded one at the start of the draft, nor should anyone. Just as part of that, he threw up the Lions and made that comment, was just interesting that seems to be the excepted narrative around us, whether it's start of draft or end of first round.

 

[Lionwest]

Listening to The Age podcast this morning, just a few bits
> Jake Nial seems to think that the discussion around the start of the first Rd priority picks was purely softening up the other clubs for the at best a mid first rounder or a end of first round.
>He also mentioned that the Blues should thank the suns as AFL HQ are really keen to assist the suns but can't do so without helping out the blues who will finish last.
> Priority pick may not be a certainty as AFl HQ looking at alternate ways to give clubs assistance ie: mature age recruits outside of the draft
> Caro said Lions have every right to feel peeved if suns and blues get generous assistance considering our past result and only receiving an end of First Rd PP
> Lynch going to Tigers will set in motion a review of Free agency rules, however, Caro did say how can you shut the gate? The horse has bolted well an truly.

 

[lionshine]

Listening to The Age podcast this morning, just a few bits
> Jake Nial seems to think that the discussion around the start of the first Rd priority picks was purely softening up the other clubs for the at best a mid first rounder or a end of first round.
>He also mentioned that the Blues should thank the suns as AFL HQ are really keen to assist the suns but can't do so without helping out the blues who will finish last.
> Priority pick may not be a certainty as AFl HQ looking at alternate ways to give clubs assistance ie: mature age recruits outside of the draft
> Caro said Lions have every right to feel peeved if suns and blues get generous assistance considering our past result and only receiving an end of First Rd PP
> Lynch going to Tigers will set in motion a review of Free agency rules, however, Caro did say how can you shut the gate? The horse has bolted well an truly.

Hmm I wonder if the Suns have already been told they have priority access to one or two state league players considering an article has just come out with the Suns list boss confirming their interest in Marlion Pickett from the WAFL...

https://thewest.com.au/sport/south-...-fremantle-star-marlion-pickett-ng-b88934187z