2018 Draft thread

[buttermuffs]

Ideally I’d take:

5 for Ross and their 2nd rounder.

However, I think we would have to swap next years second for their next years third. In the end, we get Ross and two back to back picks in the early 20’s. This allows us to possibly take Berry and also another project flaked or inside midfielder.

Both flankers and inside mids can be discovered at these picks very easily. Rockliff was a rookie pick and Witherden was around there. I’m confident we’d make the right choice when drafting there.

 

[pulpdriver]

Ideally I’d take:

5 for Ross and their 2nd rounder.

However, I think we would have to swap next years second for their next years third. In the end, we get Ross and two back to back picks in the early 20’s. This allows us to possibly take Berry and also another project flaked or inside midfielder.

Both flankers and inside mids can be discovered at these picks very easily. Rockliff was a rookie pick and Witherden was around there. I’m confident we’d make the right choice when drafting there.

Saints don't have a second rounder. The only have 1 pick inside the top 50 this year and it's the one ahead of our first pick.

 

[buttermuffs]

Saints don't have a second rounder. The only have 1 pick inside the top 50 this year and it's the one ahead of our first pick.

Ah crap that sucks.

 

[irish]

Na ! Nothing at saints worth 5 , move on not in a draft like this year

 

[briztoon]

I’d probably do pick 5 for Ross and Steven.

Wallis, Stevens, Ross, Zorko and Beams if he stays looks pretty good to me.

If Beams went, I’d certainly do it for pick 5. Ross is getting criminally underrated by a lot of posters on our board.

Saints fans wouldn't. Talk of pick 5 and next years 2nd for Seb Ross.

 

[BangyBangy]

Saints fans wouldn't. Talk of pick 5 and next years 2nd for Seb Ross.

Meh, they're still angry that they paid overs in the Billy Longer trade. Although we didn't think it at the time.

 

[trikster]

Saints fans wouldn't. Talk of pick 5 and next years 2nd for Seb Ross.

Am I the only person that thinks this is a terrible deal for us?

 

[Harris Specter]

Am I the only person that thinks this is a terrible deal for us?

Nope, that's sort of the trade for someone like Shiel or Kelly

 

[BangyBangy]

Saints fans wouldn't. Talk of pick 5 and next years 2nd for Seb Ross.

Just had a quick squiz on the Saints trading page. Lol. They seem to think crazy Vossy & I don't give a shit anymore so lets give anything a crack Gubby Allen are still in charge of our list management, trading & recruiting.

 

[Cockliff38]

Ross is contracted until the end of 2021... it won't be cheap

 

[Bicks]

Not sure where I said I don't rate him. And I'm the first to admit I'm no expert, just a fan with an opinion.

If he's thereabouts when our second round pick rolls around, he's on a short list of players I'd be keen on there. He's probably got more chance of still being there than the most of the other players I like for our second.

My only possible concern with Thomas is that injuries have already taken a fair toll on his young body. But that also works in our favour, as Berry hasn't been able to put together a consistent year and climb up draft boards, and may have slipped on some draft boards.

Oh, and what BangyBangy said.

p.s. Sam Walsh and Thomas Berry would probably be many Lions fans dream draft. But we'd probably have to trade our 2018 & 2019 first round picks, to genuinely have a chance of prying pick one from Carlton to guarantee Walsh, and hope our second round pick doesn't get pushed much father back that pick 25* after GC's compo picks and two end of first round PP's are factored in.

*I'm not so much concerned about it being pushed back by clubs matching academy and FS bids, just other possible compo picks.

Saw both Sam Walsh and Tom Berry in action on Saturday at Mars Stadium, Sam Walsh had yet another blinder and was clearly B.O.G against the Calder Cannons while at 3/4 time Tom went in and came out with the pink runners gear on and was one of the GWV Rebels runners for the last quarter.

I saw one poster comment on Tom's Championships, he's probably not aware Tom went into the Championships off a very limited prep having only played 1 TAC game in the previous 6 weeks after his collision with the point post at Mars Stadium early in the season. Of the 5 TAC Cup games he's played he's been in the best players every game.
http://websites.sportstg.com/team_i...02948551&client=0-3020-111717-437836-25836241

Article from Thursday's Ballarat Courier.

https://www.thecourier.com.au/story/5604226/berry-tracking-well-eyes-national-combine/

 

[acuguy]

Geez those Berry boys must have a decent weights room in the shed at home.

 

[briztoon]

Saw both Sam Walsh and Tom Berry in action on Saturday at Mars Stadium, Sam Walsh had yet another blinder and was clearly B.O.G against the Calder Cannons while at 3/4 time Tom went in and came out with the pink runners gear on and was one of the GWV Rebels runners for the last quarter.

I saw one poster comment on Tom's Championships, he's probably not aware Tom went into the Championships off a very limited prep having only played 1 TAC game in the previous 6 weeks after his collision with the point post at Mars Stadium early in the season. Of the 5 TAC Cup games he's played he's been in the best players every game.
http://websites.sportstg.com/team_i...02948551&client=0-3020-111717-437836-25836241

Article from Thursday's Ballarat Courier.

https://www.thecourier.com.au/story/5604226/berry-tracking-well-eyes-national-combine/

Bicks was Berry carrying an injury during the Champs? and who made the call to play Berry in the back line?

 

[morsie]

Am I the only person that thinks this is a terrible deal for us?

No

 

[jackess]

The unreasonable Lions posters think Ross is worth a 3rd rounder, the unreasonable Saints posters think Ross is worth early first and second round picks. Take the average and he's worth a pick in the second half of the first round. Which I think is about accurate.

 

[TheHairyGamer]

The unreasonable Lions posters think Ross is worth a 3rd rounder, the unreasonable Saints posters think Ross is worth early first and second round picks. Take the average and he's worth a pick in the second half of the first round. Which I think is about accurate.

Or 2 early to mid second round picks instead.

 

[Dalions]

The unreasonable Lions posters think Ross is worth a 3rd rounder, the unreasonable Saints posters think Ross is worth early first and second round picks. Take the average and he's worth a pick in the second half of the first round. Which I think is about accurate.

I would put him in a similar bracket to what we got for Redden.

 

[dlanod]

The unreasonable Lions posters think Ross is worth a 3rd rounder, the unreasonable Saints posters think Ross is worth early first and second round picks. Take the average and he's worth a pick in the second half of the first round. Which I think is about accurate.

Feels about right. We got pick 17 for Redden. I see a fair comparison between the two, despite their different strengths and weaknesses, as a solid midfielder who's not likely to be a real star.

 

[jackess]

I would put him in a similar bracket to what we got for Redden.

He was in the all Australian squad last year and won their best and fairest in a season they won 11 games. He's a bit ahead of Redden

 

[WhiteLionFeva]

He was in the all Australian squad last year and won their best and fairest in a season they won 11 games. He's a bit ahead of Redden

And West Coast probably paid overs for Redden.

 

[jackess]

And West Coast probably paid overs for Redden.

Probably although 17 got pushed back to 21 and it was a pretty weak draft. Keays went at 24.

 

[pulpdriver]

And West Coast probably paid overs for Redden.

Doubt they'd be thinking that based on the second half of this season.

 

[Bicks]

Bicks was Berry carrying an injury during the Champs? and who made the call to play Berry in the back line?

Don't know, possibility considering he went straight in for surgery after the Champs and won't play again this season.

The Vic Country coach Matt Battistello and Talent Manager Lee Fraser apparently, the thinking behind it was with Tom's top end speed and agility he would be suited to play on dangerous small forwards like Izak Rankine and Ian Hill etc, poor decision IMO with Tom's natural speed and attacking nature being his outstanding assets. Makes no sense to me play a lad that had been playing midfield with stints forward as a lock down defender on small forwards.

 

[The Flying Belgian]

Where did this Ross talk come from? (And why is it in the draft thread?)

 

[jackess]

Where did this Ross talk come from? (And why is it in the draft thread?)

Hammos article (dunno but you're continuing the Ross discussion in this thread)