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Even if they never really crack it as a top level player, having more locals spend time on the senior list is a great outcome for the club, academy and footy in QLD
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Thoughts on Tom berry & our academy kids games? When it finishes
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Man flu Pfft, come on briz toughen up buddy. I'm expecting a detailed analysis post siren.
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McFayden has been very underwhelming. His fitness doesn't look up to scratch. Coleman on the other hand has been really good. Has made some nice spoils, hit some good kicks and has linked up well. Has made a few silly mistakes from the kickout but you can forgive that.
Walsh is a class above. He is a one touch player and his kicking has been good.
Berry junior has done a couple of okay things but wouldn't say he's been one of the best on ground.
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Got stuck filling in Visa application and packing for Vietnam at half time and missed the whole second half.
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Had a couple of thoughts just then reading a few threads.
According to the Inexperience Watch we are actually quite a tall team across the board. Our top end is massive with several 200cm+ but even at the bottom end we have a lot of guys in the 180-190 and above. Most weeks we are taller than the opposition. Normally I am a little hesitant about smaller players but not sure that should be a factor for us this draft.
Another is with the look of the game going to be making changes to the game in October I wonder how that will change the game. Is there anything from that which should change who should be drafted
According to the Inexperience Watch we are actually quite a tall team across the board. Our top end is massive with several 200cm+ but even at the bottom end we have a lot of guys in the 180-190 and above. Most weeks we are taller than the opposition. Normally I am a little hesitant about smaller players but not sure that should be a factor for us this draft.
Another is with the look of the game going to be making changes to the game in October I wonder how that will change the game. Is there anything from that which should change who should be drafted
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First half was real scrappy, and honestly few players really stood out to me. Spent a lot of the time, just trying to work out who was who. Walsh was ok, played outside the contest most of the time, but did put himself over the ball a couple of times.
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Went to the game & don't agree with you about McFadyen who impressed me, or Walsh who didn't. But I will do a proper write up asap and post, re our kids and others who stood out.
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An update on the "average" rating of players for this years draft. Not a lot has changed this month but will start getting interesting once the championships are well underway. For those that missed my previous post, this is averaging out the rankings from some of the Draft forums. This month I've used Pies4Life, D_P_S, Knightmare and Josh Poulter. Cal Twomey will be added once he does one (unless I've missed it?).
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Vic Country 3.4.22; 4.6.30; 6.7. 43; 6.12.48
Allies1.1.7; 4.4.28; 6.5.41; 10.11.71
Went to the game at Blacktown without having seen any of these guys before, so it takes a while to get familiar with players and obviously I’m not a professional recruiter, just a dabbler. That said, certain players catch your eye and I was trying to follow Lions boys and anyone else who popped up. Conditions were wet, not much rain during the game, but a soaked ground. Lots of contested footy. Notes on players:
Allies
Kieren Briggs (GWS Academy). Best on ground. Started in the ruck and went forward. A super impressive game. His marking in the conditions was elite, clunking a number when no one else was, beating three guys in one contest. Good below his knees and kicked a beautifully controlled grubber goal on an angle to seal the game. Strong in the ruck and a real target when he went forward. Over-ager, but looks a player, GWS lucky to have him. Kicked 3 goals, confident set shots.
Connor McFadyen (Lions, NB: d before y) Started forward, but went into the midfield for the whole 2nd half. To my mind this is a good sign in itself, for the Allies mids were very impressive. Good below his knees, one lovely gather at pace on the far wing, and linked–up well in the 2nd half. Not the weather for a 190cm mid, but he looked good and ran hard. Put this with his recent game when he kicked 4 and his versatility must be a plus. I like him.
Keidan Coleman (Lions) He tended to be 2nd to the ball, but tackled well. What I noticed was his kicking. A great torpedo in the first quarter, hitting targets both short and long in the last Q, including precise delivery, inside 50 for a goal. Was kicking out after behinds and went over the 10m line once, but they didn’t score from it. Didn’t look to be super fast, but relaxed, solid and always involved. Could fill a need for us and worth tracking.
Jack Tomkinson (Lions) Initially because Briggs was so impressive, I didn’t think as much of Jack, but he always provided a contest. He rucked most of the last quarter when Briggs went forward and was good in the centre and around the ground. At 200cm and an overager, he looks like the sort of player we have a lot of, but his contested work means he could be a project ruck/KP, if Archie doesn’t make it.
Chayce Jones: (Tassy) The best midfielder out there today, really liked his game. He was instrumental in the Allies getting back into it in the 2nd quarter, when he was everywhere. A solid four quarters, he ran all day and hit targets. Definitely worth watching and with no go home factor, could be a good option for us. Looks a high draft pick to me.
Bailey Scott (Suns) Kicked a couple of nice goals and strong in the contest. Impressive.
Baxter Norton (Tassy) Small defender, a couple of super impressive chases. Again, could fill a need for us and I liked his competitiveness.
Tarryn Thomas(Tassy, North academy) Didn’t do much in the first when Country was on top, but shifted forward and was dangerous. Had a great last quarter when the match was in the balance and went back inside. Classy.
Caleb Graham (Suns, KP). Was great in the first quarter when the Allies were under siege and did well when switched forward in the 2nd half. Good in the air and on the ground. 194cm. Promising.
Others who caught my attention: Thomas Green (Giants, bottom ager), Fraser Turner (Tassy), Mitchell O’Neill, good run and strong in contest (Tassy, bottom ager).
Vic Country
Tye Caldwell I thought he was their best mid, damaging and hard at it. Co-captain.
Sam Walsh I really didn’t notice him until the third quarter, when he kicked nicely into the F50. Obviously it’s only one game, but on this one at least I’d have others ahead of him. Perhaps he was marked, but he didn’t scream out “class” to me and maybe I just missed his efforts. Will be interesting to see how he goes in other games.
Ned McHenry Small mid who really impressed.
Hudson Garoni KP, kicked 2 goals. Good contested mark. Leads well.
Sam Flanders (2 goals) and Caleb Serong: 2 bottom agers who caught my eye. Worth following as future mids.
Bailey Williams Rucked well and good around ground. One eye catching goal at end of 2nd when he ran and battled for a ground ball and kicked truly, but I thought the Allies rucks in Tomkinson and Briggs had the better of him today.
Zac Foot One impressive run, but didn’t notice much.
Tom Berry. Rarely sighted today. Would have to do a lot more than this to get drafted, unless he was injured. Could be a romantic wish on our part.
That’s about it. I thought tactically the Allies outcoached Vic C with their moves. Structured up really well in the last quarter when the match was on the line, both in the centre and forward 50. I liked Tomkinson, McFadyen, Jones and Thomas in the centre and they got on top of the Country midfield.
If anyone has any questions, I’m happy to try to answer them.
Allies1.1.7; 4.4.28; 6.5.41; 10.11.71
Went to the game at Blacktown without having seen any of these guys before, so it takes a while to get familiar with players and obviously I’m not a professional recruiter, just a dabbler. That said, certain players catch your eye and I was trying to follow Lions boys and anyone else who popped up. Conditions were wet, not much rain during the game, but a soaked ground. Lots of contested footy. Notes on players:
Allies
Kieren Briggs (GWS Academy). Best on ground. Started in the ruck and went forward. A super impressive game. His marking in the conditions was elite, clunking a number when no one else was, beating three guys in one contest. Good below his knees and kicked a beautifully controlled grubber goal on an angle to seal the game. Strong in the ruck and a real target when he went forward. Over-ager, but looks a player, GWS lucky to have him. Kicked 3 goals, confident set shots.
Connor McFadyen (Lions, NB: d before y) Started forward, but went into the midfield for the whole 2nd half. To my mind this is a good sign in itself, for the Allies mids were very impressive. Good below his knees, one lovely gather at pace on the far wing, and linked–up well in the 2nd half. Not the weather for a 190cm mid, but he looked good and ran hard. Put this with his recent game when he kicked 4 and his versatility must be a plus. I like him.
Keidan Coleman (Lions) He tended to be 2nd to the ball, but tackled well. What I noticed was his kicking. A great torpedo in the first quarter, hitting targets both short and long in the last Q, including precise delivery, inside 50 for a goal. Was kicking out after behinds and went over the 10m line once, but they didn’t score from it. Didn’t look to be super fast, but relaxed, solid and always involved. Could fill a need for us and worth tracking.
Jack Tomkinson (Lions) Initially because Briggs was so impressive, I didn’t think as much of Jack, but he always provided a contest. He rucked most of the last quarter when Briggs went forward and was good in the centre and around the ground. At 200cm and an overager, he looks like the sort of player we have a lot of, but his contested work means he could be a project ruck/KP, if Archie doesn’t make it.
Chayce Jones: (Tassy) The best midfielder out there today, really liked his game. He was instrumental in the Allies getting back into it in the 2nd quarter, when he was everywhere. A solid four quarters, he ran all day and hit targets. Definitely worth watching and with no go home factor, could be a good option for us. Looks a high draft pick to me.
Bailey Scott (Suns) Kicked a couple of nice goals and strong in the contest. Impressive.
Baxter Norton (Tassy) Small defender, a couple of super impressive chases. Again, could fill a need for us and I liked his competitiveness.
Tarryn Thomas(Tassy, North academy) Didn’t do much in the first when Country was on top, but shifted forward and was dangerous. Had a great last quarter when the match was in the balance and went back inside. Classy.
Caleb Graham (Suns, KP). Was great in the first quarter when the Allies were under siege and did well when switched forward in the 2nd half. Good in the air and on the ground. 194cm. Promising.
Others who caught my attention: Thomas Green (Giants, bottom ager), Fraser Turner (Tassy), Mitchell O’Neill, good run and strong in contest (Tassy, bottom ager).
Vic Country
Tye Caldwell I thought he was their best mid, damaging and hard at it. Co-captain.
Sam Walsh I really didn’t notice him until the third quarter, when he kicked nicely into the F50. Obviously it’s only one game, but on this one at least I’d have others ahead of him. Perhaps he was marked, but he didn’t scream out “class” to me and maybe I just missed his efforts. Will be interesting to see how he goes in other games.
Ned McHenry Small mid who really impressed.
Hudson Garoni KP, kicked 2 goals. Good contested mark. Leads well.
Sam Flanders (2 goals) and Caleb Serong: 2 bottom agers who caught my eye. Worth following as future mids.
Bailey Williams Rucked well and good around ground. One eye catching goal at end of 2nd when he ran and battled for a ground ball and kicked truly, but I thought the Allies rucks in Tomkinson and Briggs had the better of him today.
Zac Foot One impressive run, but didn’t notice much.
Tom Berry. Rarely sighted today. Would have to do a lot more than this to get drafted, unless he was injured. Could be a romantic wish on our part.
That’s about it. I thought tactically the Allies outcoached Vic C with their moves. Structured up really well in the last quarter when the match was on the line, both in the centre and forward 50. I liked Tomkinson, McFadyen, Jones and Thomas in the centre and they got on top of the Country midfield.
If anyone has any questions, I’m happy to try to answer them.
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Thomas Berry must have just had an off day Comeback Lions , he is top 20 rated in most power rankings, lets hope so anyway. Very promising re McFadyen, just the type of player we need as well.
Thanks for the write up, we draft nerds appreciate it.
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He is actually slowly falling in to the low-mid 20's range now.
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Thomas Berry must have just had an off day Comeback Lions , he is top 20 rated in most power rankings, lets hope so anyway. Very promising re McFadyen, just the type of player we need as well.
Thanks for the write up, we draft nerds appreciate it.
Thomas Berry must have just had an off day Comeback Lions , he is top 20 rated in most power rankings, lets hope so anyway. Very promising re McFadyen, just the type of player we need as well.
Thanks for the write up, we draft nerds appreciate it.
Looks like we'll just have to take him with our third rounder then.
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Interesting our difference in perspective on McFayden and Walsh. I reckon the truth is somewhere in the middle.
I completely agree on Flanders and McHenry - both impressed. In particular, they both seemed to be one touch players with minimal fumbles. Always a trait I look for.
I was there too. I personally think you’ve summed it up pretty well.
Jones was phenomenal. Big fan.
