List Mgmt. 2018 Draft/Trade/FA Thread

[17er]

I think your starting to get lost down the rabbit hole - relax mate

This is the Suns chance to dominate a Draft in such a way that we can be set up for the next 10 years with a group of players who will complement the current core group of players and take the team into a Premiership window. Why wouldn't I be excited about it?

 

[17er]

Come to think of it, the clubs that would directly benefit from the Suns not accepting pick #3 compo for Lynch would be St Kilda, Brisbane, Fremantle and the Bulldogs because they'd be picking higher if the Suns match Richmond's offer and trade. The Saints would be in a good position to provide the pick the Suns want and the Tigers would need to offer up picks and players. It would be satisfying to get the same or slightly better value for Lynch compared to letting him go for nothing and asking for a handout well below the investment put into the player.

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

If the Suns choose to go nuclear on Lynch and hit the Trade market, surely Carlton's pick would have to be one of the targets. Richmond would be able to provide players and picks to land Lynch through the #1 pick. In a 3 way deal, Carlton and the Suns have the picks required and each want Tigers fringe players. There are a few ways it might go down, including the Suns having to take Levi Casboult in exchange for someone like Aaron Hall, while the Tigers have players for days.

Suns INs: Pick #1, Casboult, Miles?
Suns OUTs: Lynch, Hall?, Pick #29

Blues INs: Pick #17-19, Pick #29, Pick #36, Hall?, Grigg?
Blues OUTs: Pick #1, Casboult

Tigers INs: Lynch
Tigers OUTs: Pick #17-19, Pick #36, Grigg?, Miles?

Miles we know has visited the Suns and is open to the idea. I have chosen Grigg and Casboult as tradebait because both have a year left on their contracts before they can walk away as unrestricted free agents this time next year. The key to this trade even being considered is Richmond's willingness to trust in its current list enough to compromise their draft, possibly next year's draft too. The Blues have the top pick, but an ageing list (6 players over 30) and they have just delisted 3 26yos and a rookie who never debuted in the AFL plus had the cousin Silvagni retire, which mean that only 2 Senior spots and 3 Rookies spots have been vacated. As things stand, the Blues have picks #1, #24, #25, #65 and #73. I don't believe that Carlton will greatly improve this position in the Trade Period without shifting out of pick #1 and the Suns have the best trading piece to help make that happen.

Who knows, maybe Lynch just says yes to going to Carlton?
Maybe Collingwood comes up with a better offer?
Perhaps the Hawks shift the deckchairs around and convince Roughie to head north?
Maybe Lynch gets thrown into the McGovern trade? Would the Tigers trade Jack Graham back to SA to help get MM for the Blues and Lynch to Tigerland?

You surely cant believe Carlton will even entertain this rabble of a deal for pick 1?

 

[THE_GUN]

If the Suns choose to go nuclear on Lynch and hit the Trade market, surely Carlton's pick would have to be one of the targets. Richmond would be able to provide players and picks to land Lynch through the #1 pick. In a 3 way deal, Carlton and the Suns have the picks required and each want Tigers fringe players. There are a few ways it might go down, including the Suns having to take Levi Casboult in exchange for someone like Aaron Hall, while the Tigers have players for days.

Suns INs: Pick #1, Casboult, Miles?
Suns OUTs: Lynch, Hall?, Pick #29

Blues INs: Pick #17-19, Pick #29, Pick #36, Hall?, Grigg?
Blues OUTs: Pick #1, Casboult

Tigers INs: Lynch
Tigers OUTs: Pick #17-19, Pick #36, Grigg?, Miles?

Miles we know has visited the Suns and is open to the idea. I have chosen Grigg and Casboult as tradebait because both have a year left on their contracts before they can walk away as unrestricted free agents this time next year. The key to this trade even being considered is Richmond's willingness to trust in its current list enough to compromise their draft, possibly next year's draft too. The Blues have the top pick, but an ageing list (6 players over 30) and they have just delisted 3 26yos and a rookie who never debuted in the AFL plus had the cousin Silvagni retire, which mean that only 2 Senior spots and 3 Rookies spots have been vacated. As things stand, the Blues have picks #1, #24, #25, #65 and #73. I don't believe that Carlton will greatly improve this position in the Trade Period without shifting out of pick #1 and the Suns have the best trading piece to help make that happen.

Who knows, maybe Lynch just says yes to going to Carlton?
Maybe Collingwood comes up with a better offer?
Perhaps the Hawks shift the deckchairs around and convince Roughie to head north?
Maybe Lynch gets thrown into the McGovern trade? Would the Tigers trade Jack Graham back to SA to help get MM for the Blues and Lynch to Tigerland?

I love your imagination but lets look at this

Carlton wont give up #1 for 3 picks that would be after all the comp/fa/academy #25 / #35 / #40 hall & Grigg (30 year old)
Casboult is free to a good home to get his salary off the books
Miles is free
Hall is going to North for next years 2nd/3rd

You are valuing #1 so highly whilst at the same time under valuing #3 , There is a very very good chance that #3 could get the Suns
2 x top 12 picks port could do #10+#11 to suns for Rankine

Regarding Graham - Would you do that if the player in question was Bowes ? Graham is extremely highly rated at Richmond and along with Vlastuin are future Capt and Vice Captains

Or you guys could select 2 of Lukosius/Rankine/Walsh plus get Miles for nothing anyway
I think some supporters want to see the club match just for the lols but would be extremely disappointed with the trade when its done similar to the JOM trade

I know everybody goes on about Cochran and his brain explosions but Neil Balme is the best in the business and would already be in talks with both Cochran and Evans and something is probably sorted out already , I wouldnt believe all the click bait that gets reported

 

[Peel67skin]

Assumption :BaileyScott select North or Geelong .
Pick 2 : Lukosius /Walsh
Pick 3: Rankine / Rozee /Bailey Smith
( I think club will select players based on their interview and match performance)
Pick 13-18 ( Liam Stocker , Collier , Xavier O Halloran ,Butters)
Pick 26 Josh Corbett ( Last year Liam Ryan Range )
Pick 29 Shane McAdam ( Last year Flitsh range )
Pick 38 marlion Pickett
Pick 41 Sam Collins
Pick come in for Koenan 50+ like Crossley
Use pick 76
4 -18 years old kids
4- 22-27 years old players

rookie pick ( Any GC academy players )

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

I love your imagination but lets look at this

Carlton wont give up #1 for 3 picks that would be after all the comp/fa/academy #25 / #35 / #40 hall & Grigg (30 year old)
Casboult is free to a good home to get his salary off the books
Miles is free
Hall is going to North for next years 2nd/3rd

You are valuing #1 so highly whilst at the same time under valuing #3 , There is a very very good chance that #3 could get the Suns
2 x top 12 picks port could do #10+#11 to suns for Rankine

Regarding Graham - Would you do that if the player in question was Bowes ? Graham is extremely highly rated at Richmond and along with Vlastuin are future Capt and Vice Captains

Or you guys could select 2 of Lukosius/Rankine/Walsh plus get Miles for nothing anyway
I think some supporters want to see the club match just for the lols but would be extremely disappointed with the trade when its done similar to the JOM trade

I know everybody goes on about Cochran and his brain explosions but Neil Balme is the best in the business and would already be in talks with both Cochran and Evans and something is probably sorted out already , I wouldnt believe all the click bait that gets reported

Im struggling to understand why the Suns would do anything bar take picks 2 and 3( Lynch compo) to the draft. Consider that its almost a given Walsh is off the table at pick 1 to Carlton, picks 2 and 3 gets the Suns any two of Lukosius, Smith, Rankine, Hately, Rozee or the King twins. Simply a matter of working out which two suit the list the best. If two of the South Australian boys are bets suited for the Suns, take them and screw the Crows.

 

[17er]

I love your imagination but lets look at this

Carlton wont give up #1 for 3 picks that would be after all the comp/fa/academy #25 / #35 / #40 hall & Grigg (30 year old)
Casboult is free to a good home to get his salary off the books
Miles is free
Hall is going to North for next years 2nd/3rd

You are valuing #1 so highly whilst at the same time under valuing #3 , There is a very very good chance that #3 could get the Suns
2 x top 12 picks port could do #10+#11 to suns for Rankine

Regarding Graham - Would you do that if the player in question was Bowes ? Graham is extremely highly rated at Richmond and along with Vlastuin are future Capt and Vice Captains

Or you guys could select 2 of Lukosius/Rankine/Walsh plus get Miles for nothing anyway
I think some supporters want to see the club match just for the lols but would be extremely disappointed with the trade when its done similar to the JOM trade

I know everybody goes on about Cochran and his brain explosions but Neil Balme is the best in the business and would already be in talks with both Cochran and Evans and something is probably sorted out already , I wouldnt believe all the click bait that gets reported

Thanks for the reply. I'm really just spitballing with names, using Grigg as an example of how Richmond could leverage the situation - you either trade him now or he can walk next year - and the same with Casboult, who is actually a player being talked about as a trade.

Interesting you mentioned Aaron Hall to North because I have been reading that everywhere, but not lately. Just now saw it in an article reviewing North's season on afl.com.au, so it could looks to be on again. The thing is that Carlton would take Suns talent that are fringe Top 22, so there would be options, but there aren't many players the Suns want on the Blues list who would be available besides Casboult and Kreuzer.

The Tigers, on the other hand, have players to shop. You say Miles comes free, and maybe he does come in the Rookie Draft, but until then he's trade bait. Jack Graham is a talented kid and it is hard to believe Richmond got him as cheaply as he came. He's no Jack Bowes, but more like Brad Scheer who slid down the Draft to the Suns in the 4th round because he'd been nominated and nobody bid on him knowing he was going to the Suns no matter what. And no, I wouldn't want him to be traded home (his old man is on this board and the family are now permanently on the GC) because he wouldn't be the right kid to trade. Perhaps Ah Chee will ask for a trade back to WA in the future or be asked if he wanted to go, or one of the Victorian boys fro 2016. It is never easy, but if you have a trade target you have to give something up (hello Lachlan Weller).

You are likely right that the Suns will suck it up on the Lynch front. I haven't even speculated what Steven May would be worth on the 2018 market, but I saw a late first round pick mooted today and laughed. He'd be worth pick #1 IMHO.

 

[THE_GUN]

Im struggling to understand why the Suns would do anything bar take picks 2 and 3( Lynch compo) to the draft. Consider that its almost a given Walsh is off the table at pick 1 to Carlton, picks 2 and 3 gets the Suns any two of Lukosius, Smith, Rankine, Hately, Rozee or the King twins. Simply a matter of working out which two suit the list the best. If two of the South Australian boys are bets suited for the Suns, take them and screw the Crows.

I agree totally if the blues take Walsh
#2 - Lukosius
#3 - Rankine
#12- Collier-Dawkins (pp)
#17 -Curtis Taylor
#26 - Bailey Scott
#29 - Jarred Cameron

Thats a very very good list of young talent that combined with last years crop could be a very nice team in 3 years time

 

[Cobbler]

Do you guys entertain Freo pick 5 (provided we get 4 from Brisbane) for your pick 17, 26 and 38?

You have so many picks, so would you offload many to secure a quality high pick 6?

Gives you 2,3(Lynch compo) and 6.
Gives us some picks to fill the current gap we have from 5 to 77

 

[17er]

Im struggling to understand why the Suns would do anything bar take picks 2 and 3( Lynch compo) to the draft. Consider that its almost a given Walsh is off the table at pick 1 to Carlton, picks 2 and 3 gets the Suns any two of Lukosius, Smith, Rankine, Hately, Rozee or the King twins. Simply a matter of working out which two suit the list the best. If two of the South Australian boys are bets suited for the Suns, take them and screw the Crows.

The speculation on my part was in response to a proposed trade between 4 clubs to get McGovern to Carlton and Pick #1 to the Crows. Lukosius is the ideal player for the Suns to replace Lynch as I don't believe either King would be AFL ready and they are too similar to Peter Wright. Rankine and Lukosius is the best combination as they can slot straight into the Suns forward line and improve it immediately -
F: Sexton, Wright, MacPherson
HF: Martin, Lukosius, Rankine
Crossley off the bench to rest Witts for 25% and 50% of the game in the forward line with the small forwards rotating through the midfield and releasing Wright and Lukosius up the ground. I don't want Walsh or Smith joining our runty midfield and taking a year or two to get established. Same with the Kings and I'm not high on any other players to go with picks that high.

 

[THE_GUN]

Thanks for the reply. I'm really just spitballing with names, using Grigg as an example of how Richmond could leverage the situation - you either trade him now or he can walk next year - and the same with Casboult, who is actually a player being talked about as a trade.

Interesting you mentioned Aaron Hall to North because I have been reading that everywhere, but not lately. Just now saw it in an article reviewing North's season on afl.com.au, so it could looks to be on again. The thing is that Carlton would take Suns talent that are fringe Top 22, so there would be options, but there aren't many players the Suns want on the Blues list who would be available besides Casboult and Kreuzer.

The Tigers, on the other hand, have players to shop. You say Miles comes free, and maybe he does come in the Rookie Draft, but until then he's trade bait. Jack Graham is a talented kid and it is hard to believe Richmond got him as cheaply as he came. He's no Jack Bowes, but more like Brad Scheer who slid down the Draft to the Suns in the 4th round because he'd been nominated and nobody bid on him knowing he was going to the Suns no matter what. And no, I wouldn't want him to be traded home (his old man is on this board and the family are now permanently on the GC) because he wouldn't be the right kid to trade. Perhaps Ah Chee will ask for a trade back to WA in the future or be asked if he wanted to go, or one of the Victorian boys fro 2016. It is never easy, but if you have a trade target you have to give something up (hello Lachlan Weller).

You are likely right that the Suns will suck it up on the Lynch front. I haven't even speculated what Steven May would be worth on the 2018 market, but I saw a late first round pick mooted today and laughed. He'd be worth pick #1 IMHO.

Grigg will likely play his last year in 2019 and retire along with Houli and dont believe either would be any value in a trade so thats why its really difficult to come up with any trade that even gets close to getting near a #3 pick , Richmond as i mentioned earlier is very unique in its make up
we have 5-6 players that are guns and un touchable with another 10 players that are contracted and wouldnt be traded under any circumstances not even for Fyfe as they are the fabric of the club. Rioli,Vlastuin,Grimes,Graham,Lambert,Short,Astbury,Prestia,Caddy,Nankervis

The rest of the list wont get a pick anywhere near that value, Like i could say take your pick of any 10 players in
Corey Ellis , A.Miles, J.Townsend, S.Lloyd ,N.Drummond , C. Manadue etc but they would just not get the pick that would beat #3 or even get near this.

Chances are we will give GC any of the fringe players for nothing anyway but would they really serve a purpose only Townsend,Miles,Lloyd would really add value to the Suns for leadership and Culture for 2 maybe 3 years at best

 

[Peel67skin]

I agree totally if the blues take Walsh
#2 - Lukosius
#3 - Rankine
#12- Collier-Dawkins (pp)
#17 -Curtis Taylor
#26 - Bailey Scott
#29 - Jarred Cameron

Thats a very very good list of young talent that combined with last years crop could be a very nice team in 3 years time

Jarred Cameron will be match by Eagles , as he is their academy player , maybe Brisbane Berry Brother

 

[THE_GUN]

The speculation on my part was in response to a proposed trade between 4 clubs to get McGovern to Carlton and Pick #1 to the Crows. Lukosius is the ideal player for the Suns to replace Lynch as I don't believe either King would be AFL ready and they are too similar to Peter Wright. Rankine and Lukosius is the best combination as they can slot straight into the Suns forward line and improve it immediately -
F: Sexton, Wright, MacPherson
HF: Martin, Lukosius, Rankine
Crossley off the bench to rest Witts for 25% and 50% of the game in the forward line with the small forwards rotating through the midfield and releasing Wright and Lukosius up the ground. I don't want Walsh or Smith joining our runty midfield and taking a year or two to get established. Same with the Kings and I'm not high on any other players to go with picks that high.

If Carlton pass on Lukosius that means its a Lynch/Lukosius swap - GC Big winners imo

 

[Peel67skin]

If Carlton pass on Lukosius that means its a Lynch/Lukosius swap - GC Big winners imo

I like Lukosius but he sometime remind me of Jack Watts , just don't have Rieldwolt , Pav , Jonathan brown type of arrogant .

 

[Ben Drever]

Assumption :BaileyScott select North or Geelong .
Pick 2 : Lukosius /Walsh
Pick 3: Rankine / Rozee /Bailey Smith
( I think club will select players based on their interview and match performance)
Pick 13-18 ( Liam Stocker , Collier , Xavier O Halloran ,Butters)
Pick 26 Josh Corbett ( Last year Liam Ryan Range )
Pick 29 Shane McAdam ( Last year Flitsh range )
Pick 38 marlion Pickett
Pick 41 Sam Collins
Pick come in for Koenan 50+ like Crossley
Use pick 76
4 -18 years old kids
4- 22-27 years old players

rookie pick ( Any GC academy players )

Id personally be happy to take Collins at 26.

Id hate to miss that boat.. especially if May decides he doesnt want to commit.

Collins is killing it in VFL everyone wants a piece of him.
Tim Kelly went mid 20s last year

 

[Peel67skin]

Id personally be happy to take Collins at 26.

Id hate to miss that boat.. especially if May decides he doesnt want to commit.

Collins is killing it in VFL everyone wants a piece of him.
Tim Kelly went mid 20s last year

Collins leg speed and agility a bit under for AFL , I think he will do well but not that desperate . Shane McAdam and Corbett both get call up to national combine , McAdam got a vertical leap equal to Nit Nat and , Corbett can cover 14 km a game .

* Sam Collins weakness, once the ball hit the ground you will be in trouble .

 

[briztoon]

I think Smith could still be available at #5 or #6. Freo are prime candidates to move out of #5 because they've had 3 retirements and they only have 2 Draft picks at #5 and #77. Freo's pick is worth 1878 points and the Suns have around 3300 points to trade after picks #2 and #3, which doesn't include a priority pick or picks that might be traded to the Suns.

Walsh is going to Carlton, which is a scary prospect given that he and Cripps will be running around with Murphy (who Walsh will replace eventually), Petrevski-Seton (who a lot of Suns fans wanted), Dow (who some Suns fans wanted instead of Weller and Ballard) and Kennedy, all 1st round Draft picks and shaping into a competitive unit. Carlton do not need another tall forward. They have 6 players over 200cm, a further 6 players in Lukosius's height range and 20 players overall who are over 190cm. They just do not need another tall forward competing with Curnow, McKay, Marchbank, Weitering, Silvagni, Casboult and Kreuzer for 3 tall forward spots. In fact, they are likely to offload some of those guys and try some down back because they just have too much Key forward talent.

So, if Walsh, Lukosius and Rankine go 1, 2, 3, who do the Saints like at pick #4? True, they would love Smith given he's a Sandringham product and fits their needs, but the King twins are also locals and Max has been doing his rehab at the Saints. St Kilda have 3 forwards over 190cm on their entire list and none are over 200cm. I think the only decision they have to make is which twin, the one who is carrying an ACL or the one who has only recently stepped into the forward line?

If the Suns went up to get Freo's #5 pick, which will actually be #6 if the Suns take #3 for Lynch, Smith would possibly still be on the board. The question then would be what the Suns need with that pick.

IF 1. Walsh to Blues 2. Lukosius to Suns 3. Rankine to Suns 4. M. King to Saints THEN who do the Lions fancy at #5? Does Smith fall to #6?

IF 1. Lukosius to Blues 2. Walsh to Suns 3. Rankine to Suns 4. M.King to Saints THEN the Suns have to get the remaining King, even if Smith is still on the board.

I realise you are saying that Smith and Walsh is a better choice than Rankine and Walsh, but I don't see it. Rankine could even go #1, although the Blues are super deep at small forward.

The final question - yes, there are a lot of assumptions, but this is just speculation - what if the Lions bid for Nick Blakey? The Swans have 2485 Draft points and to match the Lions bid at #6 they'd only be left with #34 a mid 3rd round pick with the spare change of matching the bid and a 4th rounder. Maybe they improve their draft position through the trade period, but as it stands they will have to give up quite a lot for Blakey and the Lions would be confident that their mark would be ok with being poached given their involvement with the kid.

If Lions don't trade for Lachie Neale, then it will likely be either Smith or Rozee at pick 5.

At this stage, the draft order is:
#1 Blues
#2 Suns
#3 Suns (Lynch compo - I oppose folding on Lynch, but can't see better offers than this compensation)
#4 Saints
#5 Lions
#6 Dockers
#7 Bulldogs
#8 Crows
#9 Bombers
#10 Power
#11 Kangaroos
#12 Cats
#13 Swans
#14 Lowest ranked semi-final loser
#15 Highest ranked semi-final loser
#16 Lowest ranked prelim loser
#17 Highest ranked prelim loser*
#18 Runners-up*
#19 Premiers*

* Suns pick depending where West Coast finish up.

Will there be top of 1st Round Priority picks? Mid-round? End of round? Or just the priority access to Mature Agers?
Personally, I believe that based on the publicly available criteria for priority picks, the Suns have a very, very strong case for a priority pick to be awarded at the top of the Draft, whereas Carlton trails the Suns in every criteria except for wins in 2018 and the Saints finished 9th two years in a row before this year's low finish, while the Lions have received priority picks too recently.

Which other clubs will get compo picks? Luke Dahlhaus looks like he's going to the Cats, so do the Bulldogs get an end of 1st round compo pick?

If the Dockers land Brisbane's pick #5 do they keep pick #6 or trade out of there anyway? Are the Dockers shopping any other players?

Brisbane has had one ( 1 ) end of round priority pick.

If any team gets a beginning of first round priority pick, we'll be ****ing pissed off big time.
2015 we finished 17th
2016 we finished 17th (behind an Essendon team filled with VFL players)
2017 we finished 18th
2018 we finished 15th

We have had fewer wins in the last 4 years than any other team.

As far as most Brisbane fans are concerned, Gold Coast and Carlton should only receive the same "help" we received. We lost 5 players in 2013 that basically set us back 5 years. Then Aish in 2015. And the AFL could only help us with an end of first round pick.

 

[17er]

Id personally be happy to take Collins at 26.

Id hate to miss that boat.. especially if May decides he doesnt want to commit.

Collins is killing it in VFL everyone wants a piece of him.
Tim Kelly went mid 20s last year

I'd hope it doesn't come to having to spend a Draft Pick on a guy like this. The AFL was talking about the Blues and Suns having first crack Mature agers. The details were sketchy, but it seemed that these picks would happen before the Draft and could possibly be Rookie List picks. I'd prefer to have 3 or 4 guys like this and get extra list spots, but that option has never really been entertained by an AFL rep.

 

[17er]

If Lions don't trade for Lachie Neale, then it will likely be either Smith or Rozee at pick 5.


Brisbane has had one ( 1 ) end of round priority pick.

If any team gets a beginning of first round priority pick, we'll be ****ing pissed off big time.
2015 we finished 17th
2016 we finished 17th (behind an Essendon team filled with VFL players)
2017 we finished 18th
2018 we finished 15th

We have had fewer wins in the last 4 years than any other team.

As far as most Brisbane fans are concerned, Gold Coast and Carlton should only receive the same "help" we received. We lost 5 players in 2013 that basically set us back 5 years. Then Aish in 2015. And the AFL could only help us with an end of first round pick.

There are criteria by which the AFL judges priority picks revolve around win/loss over multiple seasons, percentage, how recently the club played finals, injury rates, and the AFL may issue picks to expansion clubs. The Suns are number one in all of these categories over the past 8 years, so you might well feel pissed but your club has not had things anywhere near as bad as ours and neither has Carlton.
The Suns should be given a priority pick before the Draft, simple as that, but the formula by which they calculate what to give the Suns, Blues or anyone else is secret so as to avoid tanking becoming a problem again. If you want to blame somebody for wrecking the priority pick system, look no further than Carlton and Melbourne.

 

[17er]

If Carlton pass on Lukosius that means its a Lynch/Lukosius swap - GC Big winners imo

This scenario is what has made me concede that taking pick #3 is the best route to go down, however, if Carlton deal the #1 pick then why not put Lynch up and try to get a better deal than #3?

 

[MarcLocksCrustySock]

I agree totally if the blues take Walsh
#2 - Lukosius
#3 - Rankine
#12- Collier-Dawkins (pp)
#17 -Curtis Taylor
#26 - Bailey Scott
#29 - Jarred Cameron

Thats a very very good list of young talent that combined with last years crop could be a very nice team in 3 years time

Almost had the exact same picks as what I had in mind.

#2 - Lukosius
#3 - Rankine
#12- Collier-Dawkins (pp)
#17 - Tom Berry
#26 - Bailey Scott

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[17er]

I agree totally if the blues take Walsh
#2 - Lukosius
#3 - Rankine
#12- Collier-Dawkins (pp)
#17 -Curtis Taylor
#26 - Bailey Scott
#29 - Jarred Cameron

Thats a very very good list of young talent that combined with last years crop could be a very nice team in 3 years time

This is close to my list, although I think the Suns will be the most active trading team in the comp. There will be some more 2nd and 3rd round picks to come in for players traded like Hall, although possibly future picks, and I'd like to see the Suns invest half their 2nd rounders into finding a trading partner to go up into the Top 10 on one or both teen picks, then trade back into the 3rd and 4th rounds to wait for bids on the Academy players. In fact, I think the Suns may end up with too many picks for spots and will trade them for future picks.

You are right, this will be a very very good draft for the Suns. I just think it will be between 10 and 12 players, with 4 spots to fill on the Rookie list to fill with either re-rookied players delisted to make space for the Draft, mature agers from the concessions and Academy players. Bailey Scott has been reportedly keen on staying until the season finished and now all the talk is about whether he'll want to go to Geelong.

I like RCD = big boy and 19 when next season starts and I think Curtis Taylor was better than most mids at the Nat champs, but I think Liam Stocker is the Draft smoky who will come into the 1st round. He won the Morrish Medal after missing a third of the season and Nat champs, but he smashed it before and since and is playing better than anyone. Also, the Draft Combine will see a few kids go up and down draft boards. Bailey Smith is injured, so get rise up to top 10 will now likely see him fall again.

 

[Peel67skin]

I'd hope it doesn't come to having to spend a Draft Pick on a guy like this. The AFL was talking about the Blues and Suns having first crack Mature agers. The details were sketchy, but it seemed that these picks would happen before the Draft and could possibly be Rookie List picks. I'd prefer to have 3 or 4 guys like this and get extra list spots, but that option has never really been entertained by an AFL rep.

I can understand why AFL don't like extra list spots, imagine Carlton getting few GWS fridge players and few mature age players into their list .

 

[17er]

I can understand why AFL don't like extra list spots, imagine Carlton getting few GWS fridge players and few mature age players into their list .

It is only something the Suns are asking for because GWS had an extended list until the first year they made finals yet the Suns list got smaller every year for no reason.

 

[SnusCG]

Probably a bit harsh of a response towards a justified criticism of that trade idea.

If someone was offering us picks 17, Pick 29, Pick 36, and Hall/Grigg for pick 2 or 3 we would all laugh them out of the building. You can't get a top 5 pick by throwing together a pile of scraps.