List Mgmt. 2018 Draft Watch - Depth Chart In OP

[SumTingWong]

So with the large number of outs compared to only 1 in, one would think some of our rookies will get promoted right?

Moore would be a certain promotion.

Baker? Chol? Eggmolesse-Smith?

Moore has already been elevated

 

[M0557]

My preference from 10 minutes of reviewing the prospects...

1. Riley Collier-Dawkins-At 193cm & 88kgs is is the size we need as an inside mid
2. Liam Stocker-Inside mid but is as good outside and has good disposal
3. Xavier O'Halloran-Another inside mid simular size to Dawkins.....and we need an X-factor......
4. Ian Hill-Class. You can pass that up at your first pick
5. Luke Valente-Bishop has him rated at 31 so may slip to our 2nd pick but doubt it. He is SA captain...Doubt the SA teams would let it happen 3 years in a row

I saw a little of him this year and he is packed with footy smarts and a quality leader. He suits our game play perfectly. The more I read the more I like also. He'd be nearly my favourite of the draft. Ooozes class.

Still huge on getting RCD, Stocker (who most likely will be gone by 17), Bytel or O'Halloran at our first, then I'd be rapt.

Keep your eyes on Valente, Ely Smith and Caldwell around our second. Would be a tough decision if we have to choose between Valente and Smith, both quality and ideal for our needs.

 

[cairo tiger]

Moore has already been elevated

E.g wont make it

 

[cairo tiger]

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Posted this in the trade thread but reckon it belongs in here more especially given that the draft is now the main focus.

caddy is not a mid.

 

[Tiger71]

Now kids in drafts, i have no idea so now its my turn to flood the boards with pressure posts. Dont test me as I am also prone if you get it wrong to write strongly worded emails!

Which kid is like a Graham type, big body and can play in the guts straight away. To me that is more of a issue to address then a ruck

 

[_RT_]

caddy is not a mid.

Averaging 20 disposals 10 contested possessions 6 clearances and 5 tackles a game over 19 games in 2015 says otherwise.

 

[_RT_]

Now kids in drafts, i have no idea so now its my turn to flood the boards with pressure posts. Dont test me as I am also prone if you get it wrong to write strongly worded emails!

Which kid is like a Graham type, big body and can play in the guts straight away. To me that is more of a issue to address then a ruck

Ely Smith or Xavier O'Halloran

 

[JR#8]

Averaging 20 disposals 10 contested possessions 6 clearances and 5 tackles a game over 19 games in 2015 says otherwise.

The few times we put him in the middle this year he was unsighted.

 

[Grrr]

Ely Smith or Xavier O'Halloran

Like the look of Smith, very light on his feet for a big bodied mid. Reminds me of a more nimble Tuck. His kick/ ball drop is a bit iffy, hand under ball, but his hands look good.

 

[jumpinjimmy]

At the risk of repeating myself from earlier in the thread the ‘X’ man is the way to go. I’m so glad that we didn’t trade for a mediocre mid when this bloke could still be available at our first pick.

 

[Cotchy9]

Sounds like we’ll get a good mid which is nice. Really can’t split quite a few. RCD, Stocker, Valente, Smith, O’Halloran all fit the bill of our need for an inside mid

 

[cairo tiger]

Averaging 20 disposals 10 contested possessions 6 clearances and 5 tackles a game over 19 games in 2015 says otherwise.

interesting stats but to me they lie. actually think caddy needs to really pull the finger out because he is not fast enough for a mid or does he have the tank and we have a bloke called tom going forward. He may find himself in a pinch hitting role

 

[Phar Ace]

interesting stats but to me they lie. actually think caddy needs to really pull the finger out because he is not fast enough for a mid or does he have the tank and we have a bloke called tom going forward. He may find himself in a pinch hitting role

Caddy started out as a hard running scoring midfielder if I recall. He's become more selfish as a player and we should just exploit that near goals. I think every team needs a selfish, just wanna kick goals forward somewhere in the mix because as Caddy has shown, there were games when we needed that as we finessed and missed shots. Caddy marks well for his size too. Short stints up the ground won't hurt to keep him hungry.

As much as I would like Valente, Crows and Power have too many picks for him to fall to us. While Clubs will still pick interstaters, I think the go home factor is starting to enter the sub-conscious a bit more. If all things are really close to equal, Clubs will choose local talent. God knows GC needs to. Being r*ped and pillaged us Qlders!

I'm very confident Ely Smith is on the board at Tiger Central. RCD or Stocker would be great gets.

 

[M0557]

At the risk of repeating myself from earlier in the thread the ‘X’ man is the way to go. I’m so glad that we didn’t trade for a mediocre mid when this bloke could still be available at our first pick.

Xavier is becoming my fave too..... great size and skills.

 

[cairo tiger]

Caddy started out as a hard running scoring midfielder if I recall. He's become more selfish as a player and we should just exploit that near goals. I think every team needs a selfish, just wanna kick goals forward somewhere in the mix because as Caddy has shown, there were games when we needed that as we finessed and missed shots. Caddy marks well for his size too. Short stints up the ground won't hurt to keep him hungry.

As much as I would like Valente, Crows and Power have too many picks for him to fall to us. While Clubs will still pick interstaters, I think the go home factor is starting to enter the sub-conscious a bit more. If all things a really close to equal Clubs will choose local talent. God knows GC needs to. Being r*ped and pillaged us Qlders.

I'm very confident Ely Smith is on the board at Tiger Central. RCD or Stocker would be great gets.

agree with you about the gets/ caddy needs to work hard and provide that role or he is ouot

 

[Rocco sifreddi]

whatdya reckon......Lukosius, Rankine and Rozee to Gold Coast, picks 2,3,6

Maybe one of the king twins in there they badly need a key position

 

[4tune8]

Maybe one of the king twins in there they badly need a key position

Yeah, agreed. Talk is Lukosius and Rozee are mates which might help the 'go home' factor

 

[tunksy]

Rcd's tank really worries me. Great size but we would want to know he has the aerobic capacity to play midfield at afl level.

 

[Charlie Pannam]

Latest mock draft by Cal twomey has
Stocker - 18
Valente -22
Ely Smith - 29
Interestingly Smith finished top 10 in yo-yo and agility testing at the combine. 188cm 86 kg very similar size to Dusty as a junior

 

[SumTingWong]

Rcd's tank really worries me. Great size but we would want to know he has the aerobic capacity to play midfield at afl level.

Too risky at our first pick

 

[Dr Tigris]

Devil's advocate. Not necessarily what I think, but for discussion.

Major focus on big bodied mid on here. Our game plan is not based on winning the contested ball. We have to provide a contest and stop easy ball out or else our structure falls apart (see Pies game). So Nank doesn't have to win the tap, justs top the opposition ruck from hitting his man. We don't have to win the contest, we have to stop the ball moving freely if we don't. So what we really need is a mid that can contest the inside ball, but is great at pressure, high footy smarts and can run both ways. As long as they can make the contest it's their ability to shark the ball around the contest, shut down the opposition and break fast that matters. That is a very different player to what this thread I talking about.

I wonder if come draft day people will melt down because we get someone that isn't that monster inside mid. But over time we might look back and say ' they knew what they were doing getting this all round mid that makes our system work better.'

 

[Phar Ace]

Too risky at our first pick

Only because he plays as a bit of a risk taker if you ask me. Not unlike how Bont looked at under age for mine. Not suggesting the same player, but love how he likes to slice a bit of traffic. Would take Stocker everyday if both available though. Stocker can hit targets.

 

[SumTingWong]

Only because he plays as a bit of a risk taker if you ask me. Not unlike how Bont looked at under age for mine. Not suggesting the same player, but love how he likes to slice a bit of traffic. Would take Stocker everyday if both available though. Stocker can hit targets.

Hoping for Stocker as well

 

[SumTingWong]

Devil's advocate. Not necessarily what I think, but for discussion.

Major focus on big bodied mid on here. Our game plan is not based on winning the contested ball. We have to provide a contest and stop easy ball out or else our structure falls apart (see Pies game). So Nank doesn't have to win the tap, justs top the opposition ruck from hitting his man. We don't have to win the contest, we have to stop the ball moving freely if we don't. So what we really need is a mid that can contest the inside ball, but is great at pressure, high footy smarts and can run both ways. As long as they can make the contest it's their ability to shark the ball around the contest, shut down the opposition and break fast that matters. That is a very different player to what this thread I talking about.

I wonder if come draft day people will melt down because we get someone that isn't that monster inside mid. But over time we might look back and say ' they knew what they were doing getting this all round mid that makes our system work better.'

McHenry is your man

 

[smurfin]

Devil's advocate. Not necessarily what I think, but for discussion.

Major focus on big bodied mid on here. Our game plan is not based on winning the contested ball. We have to provide a contest and stop easy ball out or else our structure falls apart (see Pies game). So Nank doesn't have to win the tap, justs top the opposition ruck from hitting his man. We don't have to win the contest, we have to stop the ball moving freely if we don't. So what we really need is a mid that can contest the inside ball, but is great at pressure, high footy smarts and can run both ways. As long as they can make the contest it's their ability to shark the ball around the contest, shut down the opposition and break fast that matters. That is a very different player to what this thread I talking about.

I wonder if come draft day people will melt down because we get someone that isn't that monster inside mid. But over time we might look back and say ' they knew what they were doing getting this all round mid that makes our system work better.'

Love your point to open up some different discussion.
Suggesting it's actually more Shane Edwards or Daniel Rioli types may be what we need ?
Possibly Shai can get there, or Butler/Castagna have turns through the midfield.

Someone who analyses the game more than me needs to give their input.
I still just lose my shit over us allowing an unmarked man 20m out on the boundary as an easy option for the opposition kick-in, despite there probably being a good reason why they allow it.