Roo and joey weren't integral to our team last year as they were in the past.
Take the team that beat gws and richmond, add another preseason to a bunch of kids just reaching their prime.
Add paddy, armo, goddard, freeman to the mix, add 2 new top 10 drafted players.
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Gresham, Billings, Sinclair, Dunstan, Steele are all close to retirement now, i wouldn't expect much more from them.