NFL 2018 NFL Draft - 27/04/2018 [No Twitter Spoilers]

[Exe Gesis]

Serious question...if the big 4 all go in the top 10 do you think Belichick would stand pat and hope that Jackson lasts to 20?

He'll wait for Rudolph or move up a little for Rudolph. I think Belichick wants Rudolph not Jackson.

 

[drd23]

See about half way back up this page.

You mean The Ringer article? CBF reading the entire thing.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

This talk of the Browns taking QBs with their first two picks though is insane. Assume the intent is ultimately one develops into a starter and the other demonstrates high trade value. But...

- the Browns are not exactly and NFL development factory
- how do two top 4 picks share development AND get a chance to show their wares on the field?
- the Browns are giving up very rich collateral to do this so will want a very high return. At least 2 maybe 3 first rounders, and that is providing they find a team with that collateral.

Wouldn't the Browns be better off backing themselves in and pick their guy and use the other pick to trade down and bypass the risk of thinking they can develop the second guy into something better than what they drafted?

#brownsway

I read up on the last time it happened just recently...

Jimmy Johnson in 1989 the last to do it with Boys, taking Troy Aikmen in the NFL Draft and Steve Walsh in the Supplemental.

All it did was create controversy and it wasn't until the Boys got rid of Walsh and put their faith in Aikmen that they came good. It could be argued that it was the right move because they did get their guy with one of the two picks but it has not been attempted since, at least that early on in the draft.

With still numerous holes to fill Dorsey would be a moron to even consider it.

 

[drd23]

- how do two top 4 picks share development AND get a chance to show their wares on the field?

This is the biggest problem with drafting two QBs imo.

There aren't enough practice snaps to get one rookie QB up to speed with the NFL and then develop them into a quality player, let alone two. And that is before you even get into the lack of game time to develop or to maintain/improve trade value

 

[Bucking Beads]

Browns would do well to take Chubb at 1 and trade down @4 to load up on more picks. Tyrod Taylor will do a good enough job @QB.

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[TheGreatBarryB]

This is the biggest problem with drafting two QBs imo.

There aren't enough practice snaps to get one rookie QB up to speed with the NFL and then develop them into a quality player, let alone two. And that is before you even get into the lack of game time to develop or to maintain/improve trade value

Also if you’re one of those two QBs you may even refuse to play for Cleveland.

It’s a silly argument, like others have said, just back yourself. This isn’t the ‘84 draft, there are no standouts, why on earth would any team risk drafting two duds when you have a generational RB talent and what looks like an elite pass rusher? You would have to be a deadset idiot.

 

[Exe Gesis]

I have a feeling Josh Allen on draft day will slide into the late 2nd or 3rd round

 

[drd23]

I have a feeling Josh Allen on draft day will slide into the late 2nd or 3rd round

Yet on Tuesday....

1.Allen, 2.Barkley
Lock it in Eddie.

 

[Exe Gesis]

Yet on Tuesday....

No really I mean it this time

 

[Brasher]

scatter gun GG.exe will be quoting one of these predictions ss truth this time next week

thats my draft day call

 

[Exe Gesis]

scatter gun GG.exe will be quoting one of these predictions ss truth this time next week

thats my draft day call

I don't do that, so no. Happily throwing thoughts around for the hell of it, and whatever I feel like that day. Today I feel Allen will slide.

 

[Brasher]

I don't do that, so no. Happily throwing thoughts around for the hell of it, and whatever I feel like that day. Today I feel Allen will slide.

i will and declare your genius status 3% of the time

 

[catters078]

Heres my Mock, i usually dont mock trades but i legit think the bills will go hell for leather to get a QB so have proposed a trade or two around the QBs. This mock is a combo of what i think should happen as well as using the heavy rumours around

1) Cleveland Browns - Josh Allen - QB - Wyoming
2) New York Giants - Saquon Barkley -RB Penn State
3) New York Jets - Sam Darnold - QB - USC
4) Buffalo Bills - Josh Rosen - QB - UCLA

Buffalo trades picks 12, 22 a 2nd and a 2019 2nd plus whatever else to move up to 4

5) Miami Dolphins - Baker Mayfield - QB - Oklahoma

Miami trades picks 11, and a 2019 1st to move up to 6 spots to get Mayfield

6) Indianapolis Colts - Bradley Chubb - DE - NC State
7) Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Derwin James - Safety - Florida State
8) Chicago Bears - Quenton Nelson - OG - Notre Dame
9) Arizona Cardinals - Lamar Jackson - QB - Louisville

Arizona trades pick 16, a 3rd rd pick and a 2019 first to move up to pick 9

10) Oakland Raiders - Roquon Smith - LB - Georgia
11) Denver Broncos - Minkah Fitzparick - DB - Alabama
12) Cleveland Browns - Denzel Ward - CB - Ohio State
13) Washington Redskins - Vita Vea - DT - Washington
14) Green Bay Packers - Marcus Davenport - DE - UTSA
15) San Fransisco - Trumaine Edmunds - LB - Virginia Tech
16) Baltimore Ravens - Mike McClinchey - OT - Notre Dame
17) LA Chargers - Maurice Hurst - DT - Michigan
18) Seattle Seahawks - Isaiah Wynn - OG - Georgia
19) Dallas Cowboys - Calvin Ridley - WR - Alabama
20) Detroit Lions - DAron Payne - DT - Alabama
21) Cincinnatti Bengals - James Daniels - C/G - Iowa
22) Cleveland Browns - Connor Williams - OT - Texas
23) New England Patriots - Kolton Miller - OT - UCLA
24) Carolina Panthers - Joshua Jackson - CB - Iowa
25) Tennessee Titans - Harold Landry - OLB - Boston College
26) Atlanta Falcons - Taven Bryan - DT - Florida
27) New Orleans Saints - Leighton Vander Esch - LB - Boise State
28) Pittsburgh Steelers - Rashaan Evans - LB - Alabama
29) Jacksonville Jaguars - Courtland Sutton - WR - SMU
30) Minnesota Vikings - Mike Hughes - CB - Central Florida
31) New England Patriots - Jaire Alexander - CB - Louisville
32) Philadelphia Eagles - Derrius Guice - RB - LSE

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Heres my Mock, i usually dont mock trades but i legit think the bills will go hell for leather to get a QB so have proposed a trade or two around the QBs. This mock is a combo of what i think should happen as well as using the heavy rumours around

1) Cleveland Browns - Josh Allen - QB - Wyoming
2) New York Giants - Saquon Barkley -RB Penn State
3) New York Jets - Sam Darnold - QB - USC
4) Buffalo Bills - Josh Rosen - QB - UCLA

Buffalo trades picks 12, 22 a 2nd and a 2019 2nd plus whatever else to move up to 4

5) Miami Dolphins - Baker Mayfield - QB - Oklahoma

Miami trades picks 11, and a 2019 1st to move up to 6 spots to get Mayfield

6) Indianapolis Colts - Bradley Chubb - DE - NC State
7) Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Derwin James - Safety - Florida State
8) Chicago Bears - Quenton Nelson - OG - Notre Dame
9) Arizona Cardinals - Lamar Jackson - QB - Louisville

Arizona trades pick 16, a 3rd rd pick and a 2019 first to move up to pick 9

10) Oakland Raiders - Roquon Smith - LB - Georgia
11) Denver Broncos - Minkah Fitzparick - DB - Alabama
12) Cleveland Browns - Denzel Ward - CB - Ohio State
13) Washington Redskins - Vita Vea - DT - Washington
14) Green Bay Packers - Marcus Davenport - DE - UTSA
15) San Fransisco - Trumaine Edmunds - LB - Virginia Tech
16) Baltimore Ravens - Mike McClinchey - OT - Notre Dame
17) LA Chargers - Maurice Hurst - DT - Michigan
18) Seattle Seahawks - Isaiah Wynn - OG - Georgia
19) Dallas Cowboys - Calvin Ridley - WR - Alabama
20) Detroit Lions - DAron Payne - DT - Alabama
21) Cincinnatti Bengals - James Daniels - C/G - Iowa
22) Cleveland Browns - Connor Williams - OT - Texas
23) New England Patriots - Kolton Miller - OT - UCLA
24) Carolina Panthers - Joshua Jackson - CB - Iowa
25) Tennessee Titans - Harold Landry - OLB - Boston College
26) Atlanta Falcons - Taven Bryan - DT - Florida
27) New Orleans Saints - Leighton Vander Esch - LB - Boise State
28) Pittsburgh Steelers - Rashaan Evans - LB - Alabama
29) Jacksonville Jaguars - Courtland Sutton - WR - SMU
30) Minnesota Vikings - Mike Hughes - CB - Central Florida
31) New England Patriots - Jaire Alexander - CB - Louisville
32) Philadelphia Eagles - Derrius Guice - RB - LSE

Id be uber UBER pissed if we passed on Landry for Josh Jackson. If it plays out like that and he's there at 24 we better be running to the podium.

 

[Brasher]

Id be uber UBER pissed if we passed on Landry for Josh Jackson. If it plays out like that and he's there at 24 we better be running to the podium.

If the 49ers traded down to 15 and got Landry AND the Cards first rounder next year they can mail in the rest of the draft.

 

[catters078]

If the 49ers traded down to 15 and got Landry AND the Cards first rounder next year they can mail in the rest of the draft.

Im my scenario you have edmunds...whos your pick out of those 2?

 

[catters078]

Id be uber UBER pissed if we passed on Landry for Josh Jackson. If it plays out like that and he's there at 24 we better be running to the podium.

Im a big wrap on josh jackson ... I was actually trying to find a spot for him sooner

 

[Brasher]

Im my scenario you have edmunds...whos your pick out of those 2?

I'd take either but I think Landry will be the pick, especially if they can get him at 15.

 

[Exe Gesis]

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

If Allen gets drafted to the Browns, I think it's fair to say he'll probably never win a game as their starting QB

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

Rosen - Superstar
Mayfield - ?
Darnold - could be semi successful on the right team. Will go nowhere on the Browns
Allen - is not good enough to win games in the NFL
Jackson - will start less than 16 games in his career

 

[Exe Gesis]

No one is taking about Rudolph

 

[Bucking Beads]

Lamar Jackson is the best QB in this draft. He will be a star. I hope he gets to a team that deserves him.

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

lamar jackson is nowhere near Josh Rosen

 

[Exe Gesis]

Lamar Jackson is fool's gold. He will get drafted 3rd round maybe. Rudolph maybe 2nd or 3rd. Allen shouldn't get drafted till the 3rd or 4th. Mayfield maybe bottom of 1st or early 2nd. Rosen and Darnold should go top 10.

It's crazy talk all this expectation of 15 QBs going in the top 5.