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Every so often we see an underused QB make a splash on Thanksgiving (well maybe just Jason Garrett in 1994). Enter Colt McCoy.

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It really is one of those Divisional games that defines the season for both teams.
 
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Chicago (+20|+13|+18) at Detroit (-18|-19|-16) = Chicago (+104) - 18 = Chicago +86
CHI: 29.4-26.3 = 27.9 + (33/4) = 36.2 - 1.5 = 34.7
DET: 22.2-19.5 = 20.9 + (-37/4) = 11.6 + 1.5 = 13.1
Chicago 35-13

Washington (+1|-6|-24) at Dallas (-18|+16|-20) = Dallas (+7) - 0.5 - 20 = Washington +13.5
WAS: 19.7-19.0 = 19.4 + (-5/4) = 18.1 - 1.5 = 16.6
DAL: 20.3-19.8 = 20.1 + (-2/4) = 19.6 + 1.5 = 21.1

Dallas 21-17

Atlanta (+23|-23|+6) at New Orleans (+27|+23|+28) = New Orleans (+72) + 5 = New Orleans +77
ATL: 26.3-23.9 = 25.1 + (0/4) = 25.1 - 1.5 = 23.6
NO: 37.8-27.6 = 32.7 + (50/4) = 45.2 + 1.5 = 46.7
New Orleans 47-24

Cleveland (-11|+9|+10) at Cincinnati (-16|+10|+14) = Cincinnati (0) + 1 + 14 = Cincinnati +15
CLE: 21.8-31.2 = 26.5 + (-2/4) = 26.0 - 1.5 = 24.5
CIN: 25.6-26.3 = 26.0 + (-6/4) = 24.5 + 1.5 = 26.0

Cincinnati 26-25

Jacksonville (-27|-14|-10) at Buffalo (-25|-21|-23) = Jacksonville (+18) + 1 + 14 = Jacksonville +33
JAX: 17.6-25.1 = 21.8 + (-41/4) = 11.5 - 1.5 = 10.0
BUF: 13.7-21.9 = 17.8 + (-46/4) = 5.3 + 1.5 = 6.8
Jacksonville 10-7

New England (+7|+8|+14) at New York Jets (-10|-16|-9) = New England (+64) + 4.5 - 15 = New England +53.5
NE: 28.0-25.4 = 26.7 + (15/4) = 31.0 - 1.5 = 29.5
NYJ: 20.8-23.6 = 22.2 + (-26/4) = 15.7 + 1.5 = 17.2
New England 30-17

New York Giants (0|+3|-10) at Philadelphia (+5|+2|+1) = Philadelphia (+15) - 2.5 - 14 = New York +1.5
NYG: 21.5-23.1 = 22.3 + (3/4) = 23.1 - 1.5 = 21.6
PHI: 20.5-26.3 = 23.4 + (7/4) = 25.2 + 1.5 = 26.7
Philadelphia 27-22

Oakland (-5|-20|-29) at Baltimore (+22|+8|+13) = Baltimore (+97) + 0.5 + 15 = Baltimore +112.5
OAK: 17.0-18.1 = 17.6 + (-25/4) = 11.3 - 1.5 = 9.8
BAL: 23.7-29.3 = 26.5 + (30/4) = 34.0 + 1.5 = 35.5
Baltimore 36-10

San Francisco (+7|-1|+14) at Tampa Bay (+14|-9|+19) = Tampa Bay (+4) - 4.5 - 2 = San Francisco +2.5
SF: 23.0-32.9 = 28.0 + (6/4) = 29.5 - 1.5 = 28.0
TB: 26.7-26.6 = 26.7 + (5/4) = 28.0 + 1.5 = 29.5

Tampa Bay 30-28

Seattle (+16|+6|+6) at Carolina (-4|+15|-3) = Seattle (+20) + 0.5 + 8 = Seattle +28.5
SEA: 24.6-25.2 = 24.9 + (22/4) = 30.4 - 1.5 = 28.9
CAR: 26.0-21.6 = 23.8 + (11/4) = 26.6 + 1.5 = 28.1
Seattle 29-28

Arizona (-18|-13|-24) at Los Angeles Chargers (+2|+8|+7) = Los Angeles (+72) + 6 - 17 = Los Angeles +61
AZ: 14.5-20.9 = 17.7 + (-31/4) = 9.9 - 1.5 = 8.4
LAC: 26.2-24.8 = 25.5 + (10/4) = 28.0 + 1.5 = 29.5
Los Angeles 30-8

Miami (-1|-9|-8) at Indianapolis (+10|+7|+17) = Indianapolis (+52) + 0.5 - 5 = Indianapolis +47.5
MIA: 19.9-24.9 = 22.4 + (-10/4) = 19.9 - 1.5 = 18.4
IND: 29.8-25.6 = 27.8 + (17/4) = 32.1 + 1.5 = 33.6
Indianapols 34-18

Pittsburgh (-2|+5|+9) at Denver (-3|+10|-9) = Pittsburgh (+14) - 1.5 + 6 = Pittsburgh +18.5
PIT: 29.9-23.5 = 26.7 + (3/4) = 27.5 - 1.5 = 26.0
DEN: 22.8-22.5 = 22.7 + (-7/4) = 20.9 + 1.5 = 22.4
Pittsburgh 26-22

Green Bay (-2|+2|-2) at Minnesota (0|-8|+1) = Green Bay (+5) + 2.5 - 2 = Green Bay +5.5
GB: 24.7-22.9 = 23.8 + (0/4) = 23.8 - 1.5 = 22.3
MIN: 24.1-24.3 = 24.2 + (-8/4) = 22.2 + 1.5 = 23.7

Minnesota 24-22

Tennessee (-17|-20|-22) at Houston (+8|-21|-14) = Houston (+59) - 1 + 2 = Houston +60
TEN: 17.8-20.5 = 19.2 + (-37/4) = 9.9 - 1.5 = 8.4
HOU: 23.9-18.9 = 21.4 + (-13/4) = 18.1 + 1.5 = 19.6
Houston 20-8

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Chicago (+20|+13|+18) at Detroit (-18|-19|-16) = Chicago (+104) - 18 = Chicago +86
CHI: 29.4-26.3 = 27.9 + (33/4) - (9/10) = 35.3 - 1.5 = 33.8
DET: 22.2-19.5 = 20.9 + (-37/4) + (9/10) = 12.5 + 1.5 = 14.0
Chicago 34-14

Washington (+1|-6|-24) at Dallas (-18|+16|-20) = Dallas (+7) - 0.5 - 20 = Washington +13.5
WAS: 19.7-19.0 = 19.4 + (-5/4) + (10/10) = 19.1 - 1.5 = 17.6
DAL: 20.3-19.8 = 20.1 + (-2/4) - (10/10) = 18.6 + 1.5 = 20.1

Dallas 20-18

Atlanta (+23|-23|+6) at New Orleans (+27|+23|+28) = New Orleans (+72) + 5 = New Orleans +77
ATL: 26.3-23.9 = 25.1 + (0/4) - (2.5/10) = 24.8 - 1.5 = 23.3
NO: 37.8-27.6 = 32.7 + (50/4) + (2.5/10) = 45.5 + 1.5 = 47.0
New Orleans 47-23

Cleveland (-11|+9|+10) at Cincinnati (-16|+10|+14) = Cincinnati (0) + 1 + 14 = Cincinnati +15
CLE: 21.8-31.2 = 26.5 + (-2/4) - (7/10) = 25.3 - 1.5 = 23.8
CIN: 25.6-26.3 = 26.0 + (-6/4) + (7/10) = 25.2 + 1.5 = 26.7

Cincinnati 27-24

Jacksonville (-27|-14|-10) at Buffalo (-25|-21|-23) = Jacksonville (+18) + 1 + 14 = Jacksonville +33
JAX: 17.6-25.1 = 21.8 + (-41/4) + (7/10) = 12.2 - 1.5 = 10.7
BUF: 13.7-21.9 = 17.8 + (-46/4) - (7/10) = 4.6 + 1.5 = 6.1
Jacksonville 11-6

New England (+7|+8|+14) at New York Jets (-10|-16|-9) = New England (+64) + 4.5 - 15 = New England +53.5
NE: 28.0-25.4 = 26.7 + (15/4) - (7.5/10) = 30.2 - 1.5 = 28.7
NYJ: 20.8-23.6 = 22.2 + (-26/4) + (7.5/10) = 16.5 + 1.5 = 18.0
New England 29-18

New York Giants (0|+3|-10) at Philadelphia (+5|+2|+1) = Philadelphia (+15) - 2.5 - 14 = New York +1.5
NYG: 21.5-23.1 = 22.3 + (3/4) + (7/10) = 23.8 - 1.5 = 22.3
PHI: 20.5-26.3 = 23.4 + (7/4) - (7/10) = 24.5 + 1.5 = 26.0
Philadelphia 26-22

Oakland (-5|-20|-29) at Baltimore (+22|+8|+13) = Baltimore (+97) + 0.5 + 15 = Baltimore +112.5
OAK: 17.0-18.1 = 17.6 + (-25/4) - (7.5/10) = 10.5 - 1.5 = 9.0
BAL: 23.7-29.3 = 26.5 + (30/4) + (7.5/10) = 34.8 + 1.5 = 36.3
Baltimore 36-10

San Francisco (+7|-1|+14) at Tampa Bay (+14|-9|+19) = Tampa Bay (+4) - 4.5 - 2 = San Francisco +2.5
SF: 23.0-32.9 = 28.0 + (6/4) + (1/10) = 29.6 - 1.5 = 28.1
TB: 26.7-26.6 = 26.7 + (5/4) - (1/10) = 27.9 + 1.5 = 29.4

Tampa Bay 29-28

Seattle (+16|+6|+6) at Carolina (-4|+15|-3) = Seattle (+20) + 0.5 + 8 = Seattle +28.5
SEA: 24.6-25.2 = 24.9 + (22/4) + (4/10) = 30.8 - 1.5 = 29.3
CAR: 26.0-21.6 = 23.8 + (11/4) - (4/10) = 26.2 + 1.5 = 27.7
Seattle 29-28

Arizona (-18|-13|-24) at Los Angeles Chargers (+2|+8|+7) = Los Angeles (+72) + 6 - 17 = Los Angeles +61
AZ: 14.5-20.9 = 17.7 + (-31/4) + (8.5/10) = 10.8 - 1.5 = 9.3
LAC: 26.2-24.8 = 25.5 + (10/4) - (8.5/10) = 27.1 + 1.5 = 28.6
Los Angeles 30-9

Miami (-1|-9|-8) at Indianapolis (+10|+7|+17) = Indianapolis (+52) + 0.5 - 5 = Indianapolis +47.5
MIA: 19.9-24.9 = 22.4 + (-10/4) + (2.5/10) = 20.2 - 1.5 = 18.7
IND: 29.8-25.6 = 27.8 + (17/4) - (2.5/10) = 31.8 + 1.5 = 33.3
Indianapols 33-19

Pittsburgh (-2|+5|+9) at Denver (-3|+10|-9) = Pittsburgh (+14) - 1.5 + 6 = Pittsburgh +18.5
PIT: 29.9-23.5 = 26.7 + (3/4) - (3/10) = 27.2 - 1.5 = 25.7
DEN: 22.8-22.5 = 22.7 + (-7/4) + (3/10) = 21.2 + 1.5 = 22.7
Pittsburgh 26-23

Green Bay (-2|+2|-2) at Minnesota (0|-8|+1) = Green Bay (+5) + 2.5 - 2 = Green Bay +5.5
GB: 24.7-22.9 = 23.8 + (0/4) - (1/10) = 23.7 - 1.5 = 22.2
MIN: 24.1-24.3 = 24.2 + (-8/4) + (1/10) = 22.3 + 1.5 = 23.8

Minnesota 24-22

Tennessee (-17|-20|-22) at Houston (+8|-21|-14) = Houston (+59) - 1 + 2 = Houston +60
TEN: 17.8-20.5 = 19.2 + (-37/4) - (1/10) = 9.8 - 1.5 = 8.3
HOU: 23.9-18.9 = 21.4 + (-13/4) + (1/10) = 18.2 + 1.5 = 19.5
Houston 20-8
 
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Some good tester games last week:
Rams win by 3 at home over KC - so essentially neutral
Giants win by 3 over TB - same
Colts/Titans, Raiders/Cardinals were basically neck-and-neck, so now there is some movement there.

Big hole opening up from #10 to #20 so room for big movement - Colts, Texans, Eagles, Falcons, Redskins, Cowboys.

Top 10 pretty settled but can’t ignore Saints.

So far this season, against the spread.

This week would be taking (at this stage):
Bears -3.5
Redskins +7.5
Falcons +12.5
Panthers -3.5
Bucs -3.5
Jaguars +3.5
Raiders +10.5
Bengals -3
Eagles -6
Patriots -9.5
Cardinals +11.5
Steelers -3
Colts -8.5
Vikings -3.5
Titans/Texans no line - but would say Texans -7 seems reasonable.
 
Agreed
Thanksgiving, and the Falcons playing for pride (maybe more) are dangerous.

Also not sure how Cowboys earned the right to be 7 plus point favourites!
Alex Smith factor I'd say.
 

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FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 23 @ 4:30 AM
Chicago at Detroit LIVE

FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 23 @ 8:30 AM

Washington at Dallas LIVE

FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 23 @ 12:20 PM

Atlanta at New Orleans LIVE

MONDAY, NOVEMBER 26 @ 5:00 AM

Cleveland at Cincinnati
Jacksonville at Buffalo
New England at New York Jets
New York Giants at Philadelphia
Oakland at Baltimore
San Francisco at Tampa Bay
Seattle at Carolina LIVE

MONDAY, NOVEMBER 26 @ 8:05 AM
Arizona at Los Angeles Chargers

MONDAY, NOVEMBER 26 @ 8:25 AM
Miami at Indianapolis
Pittsburgh at Denver LIVE

MONDAY, NOVEMBER 26 @ 12:20 PM
Green Bay at Minnesota LIVE

TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 27 @ 12:15 PM
Tennessee at Houston LIVE

OPEN DATE
Kansas City, Los Angeles Rams

AUSTRALIAN T.V. GAMES
LIVE ON ESPN AND 7MATE AT 4.30AM ON 23/11: Chicago at Detroit
LIVE ON 7MATE AT 8.30 AM ON 23/11: Washington at Dallas
LIVE ON 7MATE AT 12.20PM ON 23/11: Atlanta at New Orleans
LIVE ON ESPN AT 5.00 AM ON 26/11: ESPN Redzone (for all day games)
LIVE ON 7MATE AT 5.00 AM ON 26/11: Seattle at Carolina
LIVE ON 7MATE AT 8.25 AM ON 26/11: Pittsburgh at Denver

LIVE ON ESPN AND 7MATE AT 12.20 PM ON 26/11: Green Bay at Minnesota
LIVE ON ESPN AT 12.15 PM ON 27/11 : Tennessee at Houston

NB: VIC, NSW, ACT, TAS times
less 30 mins SA
less 1 hour QLD
less 1.5 hours NT
less 3 hours WA
Love the first 2 match up's on thanks giving and the prospect of the Saints racking up a score at their Dome.

Seattle at Carolina LIVE - Bang!
Miami at Indianapolis - Boo Yaaah!
Pittsburgh at Denver LIVE - Could be a beauty
Green Bay at Minnesota LIVE - Looks like a jizzer
Tennessee at Houston LIVE - Love it


Good work Balmain love the effort you go to with the NFL. Good stuff.


Good round again.

 
I miss the Thanksgiving throwbacks - stupid helmet rule.

However, there are some uniform variants announced for this week :
Broncos will be wearing their Orange Crush Color Rush jerseys this week.
Colts will be wearing their all Blue Color Rush uniforms this week.
Chargers wearing their 1970s inspired Color Rush uniforms.
 
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Perhaps, though typically non-QB only move things a point or two max, and the best QBs are only 7 points.

How much is Alex Smith worth, and how much is overreacting to Dallas’ form?

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.actionnetwork.com/nfl/odell-beckham-jr-worth-point-spread
Probably a combo of both. In a QB focused league it would have to have some impact, even though we haven't asked much of the QB position this season and I expect (hope) McCoy plays within the limits of the position even if he hasn't started since god knows when.
 
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Thursday, November 22
12:30 PM- Chicago Bears at Detroit Lions
CBS: Jim Nantz, Tony Romo, Tracy Wolfson

4:30 PM- Washington Redskins at Dallas Cowboys
FOX: Joe Buck, Troy Aikman, Erin Andrews, Kristina Pink

8:20 PM- Atlanta Falcons at New Orleans Saints
NBC: Mike Tirico, Tony Dungy, Rodney Harrison, Michele Tafoya

Sunday, November 25
1 PM- Seattle Seahawks at Carolina Panthers
FOX: Kevin Burkhardt, Charles Davis, Pam Oliver

1 PM- New York Giants at Philadelphia Eagles
FOX: Thom Brennaman, Chris Spielman, Shannon Spake

1 PM- San Francisco 49ers at Tampa Bay Buccaneers
FOX: Kenny Albert, Ronde Barber, Megan Olivi

1 PM- New England Patriots at New York Jets
CBS: Ian Eagle, Dan Fouts, Evan Washburn

1 PM- Cleveland Browns at Cincinnati Bengals
CBS: Kevin Harlan, Rich Gannon, Steve Tasker

1 PM- Oakland Raiders at Baltimore Ravens
CBS: Andrew Catalon, James Lofton, Amanda Balionis

1 PM- Jacksonville Jaguars at Buffalo Bills
CBS: Spero Dedes, Adam Archuleta


4:05 PM- Arizona Cardinals at Los Angeles Chargers
FOX: Chris Myers, Daryl Johnston, Laura Okmin

4:25 PM- Pittsburgh Steelers at Denver Broncos
CBS: Jim Nantz, Tony Romo, Tracy Wolfson

4:25 PM- Miami Dolphins at Indianapolis Colts
CBS: Greg Gumbel, Trent Green, Bruce Arians, Melanie Collins


8:20 PM- Green Bay Packers at Minnesota Vikings
NBC: Al Michaels, Cris Collinsworth, Michele Tafoya


Monday, November 26
8:15 PM- Tennessee Titans at Houston Texans
ESPN: Joe Tessitore, Jason Witten, Booger McFarland, Lisa Salters
 

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