NFL 2018 NFL - Week 16

[Exe Gesis]

LA is right, the Rams D is where most of the blame goes and something is awry there given they are stacked on D with big name players and big name DC.

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Saints are best, Rams are worst in points allowed over last six games
Posted by Michael David Smith on December 18, 2018, 9:02 AM EST

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Halfway through the season, the Rams looked like the best team in the NFC behind Jared Goff, and the Saints next in line with Drew Brees leading the way. Those teams have since diverged, with the Saints now cruising toward home-field advantage while the Rams are just holding on trying not to lose a bye week. And a big part of that is the fact that Brees is playing better than Goff.

But a bigger part is on defense, where the Saints have played very well — and the Rams have played very poorly — over the second half of the season.

In fact, over the last six games, the Rams have allowed an NFL-high 188 points, and the Saints have allowed an NFL-low 74 points.

As great as the Rams were in the first half of this season — and they were great, with an 8-0 record and a +109 point differential — they’ve been mediocre at best over the second half of the season, with a 3-3 record and a -4 point differential. The Saints, meanwhile, have been 5-1 with an NFL-best +106 point differential since the halfway point of the season.

If it’s a Rams-Saints NFC Championship Game, it’s easy to see which defense should be trusted, and that’s the one that leads the league in points allowed over the last six games.

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

How desperarate Elway must be, report he tried to sign Mike Shananan as HC after last season until CEO stepped in.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/12/17/j...an-secret-meeting-vance-joseph-denver-broncos

 

[Southerntakeover]

LA is right, the Rams D is where most of the blame goes and something is awry there given they are stacked on D with big name players and big name DC.

It wasnt really this week. The offence failed to put any score pressure on us, and Goff's turnover handed us points.

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

An article on ESPN or SI mentioned how it would be interesting now that they’re struggling how some of the ‘personalities’ they recruited in their D this year will hold up. Peters already showing signs of cracking with his rant at spectator.

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

Josh Allen quietly a strong candidate for OROTY

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Ahead of Mayfield and Barkley? Or even Nelson? Ridiculous. Do you have something against Barkley btw? Should be given a medal for running behind that OL

 

[Exe Gesis]

Ahead of Mayfield and Barkley? Or even Nelson? Ridiculous. Do you have something against Barkley btw? Should be given a medal for running behind that OL

mayfield or barkley to get ROTY but OROTY might go to Allen

 

[drd23]

I'll be very surprised if ROY isn't Barkley. I'd probably give Nelson OROY (although Baker would get it in this scenario because who actually gives awards to O-linemen) and Derwin James DROY

 

[tha Freak]

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

40-23

Washington (-13|-7|-26) at Tennessee (-16|+15|-14) = Tennessee (+31) - 21 = Tennessee +10
WAS: 18.9-18.1 = 18.5 + (-20/4) = 13.5 + (10.5/10) = 14.6 - 1.5 = 13.1
TEN: 19.1-22.1 = 20.6 + (-1/4) = 20.3 - (10.5/10) = 19.2 + 1.5 = 20.7
Tennessee 21-13

Baltimore (-9|+6|-4) at Los Angeles Chargers (0|0|-3) = Los Angeles (+4) + 4 - 21 = Baltimore +13
BAL: 24.4-21.3 = 22.9 + (-3/4) = 22.1 + (10.5/10) = 23.2 - 1.5 = 21.7
LAC: 28.2-18.1 = 23.2 + (0/4) = 23.2 - (10.5/10) = 22.1 + 1.5 = 23.6
Los Angeles 24-22

Atlanta (+20|-13|+11) at Carolina (+14|+28|+14) = Carolina (+38) - 2 - 17 = Carolina +19
ATL: 25.4-24.6 = 25.0 + (7/4) = 26.8 + (9.5/10) = 27.8 - 1.5 = 26.3
CAR: 23.8-27.2 = 25.5 + (42/4) = 36.0 - (9.5/10) = 35.0 + 1.5 = 36.5
Carolina 37-26

Buffalo (-13|-3|-17) at New England (0|-1|+11) = New England (+43) + 9 + 17 = New England +69
BUF: 15.4-22.1 = 18.8 + (-16/4) = 14.8 - (8.5/10) = 13.9 - 1.5 = 12.4
NE: 26.7-23.8 = 25.3 + (-1/4) = 25.0 + (8.5/10) = 25.9 + 2.5 = 27.4
New England 27-12

Cincinnati (-11|+10|+9) at Cleveland (+1|+6|+12) = Cleveland (+11) - 3 - 14 = Cincinnati +6
CIN: 24.1-24.9 = 24.5 + (-1/4) = 24.2 + (7/10) = 24.9 - 1.5 = 26.4
CLE: 22.1-29.5 = 25.8 + (7/4) = 27.6 - (7/10) = 26.9 - 1.5 = 25.4
Cincinnati 26-25

Green Bay (+3|+17|+8) at New York Jets (-4|-3|-7) = Green Bay (+42) + 10 - 19 = Green Bay +33
GB: 23.7-25.6 = 24.7 + (20/4) = 29.7 - (9.5/10) = 28.7 - 1.5 = 27.2
NYJ: 20.9-23.6 = 22.3 + (-7/4) = 20.5 + (9.5/10) = 21.5 + 1.5 = 23.0
Green Bay 27-23

Houston (+9|-13|+5) at Philadelphia (+8|-23|-13) = Houston (+29) + 4 + 3 = Houston +36
HOU: 25.1-22.7 = 23.9 + (-4/4) = 22.9 + (1.5/10) = 23.1 - 1.5 = 21.6
PHI: 22.2-20.1 = 21.2 + (-15/4) = 16.9 - (1.5/10) = 16.7 + 1.5 = 18.2
Houston 22-18

Jacksonville (-3|-1|-3) at Miami (-17|-2|-17) = Jacksonville (+29) - 7 + 20 = Jacksonville +42
JAX: 16.1-26.7 = 21.4 + (-4/4) = 20.4 + (10/10) = 21.4 - 1.5 = 19.9
MIA: 21.1-20.6 = 20.9 + (-19/4) = 16.1 - (10/10) = 15.1 + 1.5 = 16.6
Jacksonville 20-17

New York Giants (-2|-18|-9) at Indianapolis (+10|+3|+14) = Indianapolis (+56) - 4 - 17 = Indianapolis +35
NYG: 21.9-21.4 = 21.7 + (-20/4) = 16.7 + (8.5/10) = 17.6 - 1.5 = 16.1
IND: 26.6-24.9 = 25.8 + (13/4) = 29.1 - (8.5/10) = 28.2 + 1.5 = 29.7
Indianapolis 30-16

Minnesota (+17|-2|+2) at Detroit (-18|-4|-13) = Minnesota (+52) - 6 = Minnesota +48
MIN: 23.1-23.8 = 23.5 + (15/4) = 27.8 - (3/10) = 27.5 - 1.5 = 26.0
DET: 20.3-22.0 = 21.2 + (-22/4) = 15.7 + (3/10) = 16.0 + 1.5 = 17.5
Minnesota 26-18

Tampa Bay (+4|-16|-8) at Dallas (+2|+16|+4) = Dallas (+42) + 11 + 6 = Dallas +59
TB: 24.6-19.2 = 21.9 + (-12/4) = 18.9 - (3/10) = 18.6 - 1.5 = 17.1
DAL: 19.7-28.8 = 24.3 + (18/4) = 28.8 + (3/10) = 29.1 + 1.5 = 30.6
Dallas 31-17

Chicago (+4|-6|+20) at San Francisco (-19|-30|-19) = Chicago (+86) + 3 - 12 = Chicago +77
CHI: 27.4-26.6 = 27.0 + (-2/4) = 26.5 - (6/10) = 25.9 - 1.5 = 24.5
SF: 21.5-18.9 = 20.2 + (-49/4) = 7.9 + (6/10) = 8.5 + 1.5 = 10.0
Chicago 25-10

Los Angeles Rams (+6|+23|+22 at Arizona (-24|-4|-12) = Los Angeles (+91) + 6 - 3 = Los Angeles +94
LAR: 32.0-26.2 = 29.1 + (29/4) = 36.4 - (3/10) = 36.1 - 1.5 = 34.6
AZ: 13.7-24.5 = 19.1 + (-28/4) = 12.1 + (3/10) = 12.4 + 1.5 = 13.9
Los Angeles 35-14

Pittsburgh (+8|-8|+2) at New Orleans (+8|0|+13) = New Orleans (+19) + 6 + 21 = New Orleans +46
PIT: 27.4-20.9 = 24.2 + (0/4) = 24.2 - (10.5/10) = 23.1 - 1.5 = 21.6
NO: 32.8-22.6 = 27.7 + (8/4) = 29.7 + (10.5/10) = 30.8 + 1.5 = 32.3
New Orleans 32-22

Kansas City (+18|+12|+7) at Seattle (+7|+25|+19) = Seattle (+14) + 4 - 1 = Seattle +17
KC: 35.6-20.9 = 28.3 + (30/4) = 35.8 + (0.5/10) = 35.9 - 1.5 = 34.5
SEA: 25.9-27.1 = 26.5 + (32/4) = 34.5 - (0.5/10) = 34.4 + 1.5 = 35.9
Seattle 36-35

Denver (+9|+22|+11) at Oakland (-9|-19|-19) = Denver (+89) + 3 + 6 = Denver +98
DEN: 21.9-29.9 = 25.9 + (31/4) = 33.7 + (3/10) = 34.0 - 1.5 = 32.5
OAK: 18.6-21.4 = 20.0 + (-28/4) = 13.0 - (3/10) = 12.7 + 1.5 = 14.2
Denver 33-14

 

[Oscarman]

Aaron Donald or Khalil Mack no chance for MVP? ******* QBs award just like the Brownlow is midfielders only. Obviously appearances on screen dictate winners. Guess Kohli will get Player of the Series in the Tests on at the moment? He's shown at least once every over, even when having a s**t.

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

Aaron Donald or Khalil Mack no chance for MVP? ******* QBs award just like the Brownlow is midfielders only. Obviously appearances on screen dictate winners. Guess Kohli will get Player of the Series in the Tests on at the moment? He's shown at least once every over, even when having a s**t.

Khalil Mack? Are you ******* high?

Aaron Donald isn't close to the most valuable player in the league this year. I can name probably 15+ QB's more valuable to their team

 

[Oscarman]

Aaron Donald isn't close to the most valuable player in the league this year. I can name probably 15+ QB's more valuable to their team

QBs are always valuable, but obviously opposition coaches rate Aaron Donald so highly he is getting double and triple teamed on most plays.

It should be pisseasy playing D for the Rams if you are any of the other 10.

 

[Macpotata]

Baltimore vs Chargers is an absolute jizzer. Told the in laws to get ****ed for Sunday lunch.



utensil suckers

 

[drd23]

Aaron Donald or Khalil Mack no chance for MVP?

Donald may be leading the league in sacks but he's also the headline of a vastly underperforming defense and Mack doesn't quite have the flashy stats that usually accompany what few defensive MVP candidates there have been.

Unfortunately defensive players basically need to break records on one of the best defenses in the league to have a chance at winning MVP and neither of these two meet both criteria

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

If JJ Watt couldn’t win it 2-3 years back no one else can. Having said that if it’s mVp, it’s QB every time. I mean Watson is more valuable to Texans win wise than Watt.

 

[aussiedude]

It took Adrian Peterson getting over 2000yds to win the MVP.

If a defender wins it they will need like 30 sacks or INTs because of how slanted it is towards QB's

 

[aussiedude]

Mack gets the sacks and numbers, but if the players voted. I think Hicks would be the Bears MVP since he creates the pressure and push that the edges clean up.

 

[CasuallyDressed]

I'd give ROTY to Quentin Nelson. 'Bout time an OLman won a significant award.

 

[Exe Gesis]

what a beast....

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Leonard leads the league in tackles with 146, more than any rookie through 13 games in NFL history. He also has seven sacks, four forced fumbles, seven pass breakups and an interception

 

[Exe Gesis]

Broncos running back Phillip Lindsaymade history by becoming the first undrafted offensive rookie ever to make the Pro Bowl.

 

[CasuallyDressed]

what a beast....

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Leonard leads the league in tackles with 146, more than any rookie through 13 games in NFL history. He also has seven sacks, four forced fumbles, seven pass breakups and an interception

Still 2 games left and he missed a game.

Has a lazy 7 sacks too.

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

Aussie Michael Dickson got selected for his first Pro Bowl. No mention in Sydney papers as yet.

Darius Leonard missed out! I mean I’m a big fan of McKinney but better year than Leonard? Mosley? Did he have that good a season?

 

[GreyCrow]

Aussie Michael Dickson got selected for his first Pro Bowl.

Jarryd Hayne Doesnt Like This

No mention in Sydney papers as yet.

Jarryd Hayne Likes This

 

[drd23]

Darius Leonard missed out! I mean I’m a big fan of McKinney but better year than Leonard? Mosley? Did he have that good a season?

Neither were better than Leonard, but that's far from the most egregious Pro Bowl snub this year imo.

In the end I try not to pay much attention to the Pro Bowl given its just a popularity competition among the general public that may not actually know that much about players from other teams

 

[juice t]

Aussie Michael Dickson got selected for his first Pro Bowl. No mention in Sydney papers as yet.

"NFL? What's that?"
"That thing you swindled CBS out of Rupert"
"Ah yes"