Play Nice 2018 Non AFL Admin, Crowds, Ratings, Participation etc thread

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Paramatta itself has undergone a huge demographic shift in the last two decades. Something like 40% of the Parramatta Council area is of Chinese, Indian or Korean ancestry, three populations that haven't exactly been breached when it comes to supporting any football code really. I don't think it's some sleeping giant or anything.
When were the Eels halcyon days, 70s/80s?
 

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My take on it is that the fact they have essentially rebuilt their home stadium from the ground up yet still only made it 30k capacity means they dont realistically think they are going to attract the huge crowds that some AFL matches get.

To be called bigger than say Richmond or Collingwood they would expect to get the odd 70k-80k-90k regular season attendance. They know thet just going to get that, hence they only built the stadium about 5k more in capacity to what it originally was.
Sized for the market, same as Perth, same as Adelaide ..... the Melbourne market, the MCG/Docklands are a different world, see calls for a boutique (aka smaller) stadium in an oversupplied AFL marketplace.
 

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Mediaweek twitter reported a 10k viewership on fox for Melb City Vs Mariners.

You have to wonder what kind of position the FFA are in for its next media rights deal in terms of leverage for negotiation.
They are stuffed. There will be no tv competition next rights so FOX have them over a barrel.
Even if they try and get ahead of the curve and produce their own games and charge for streaming, they can charge stuff all otherwise it will turn people away when they can watch better standard soccer much cheaper from overseas not to mention pushing it further away from the mainstream which will hurt them with sponsorship, finding possible new fans ect.

The only hope I think they have is if someone like Optus or Telstra pick it up to try and gain more customers. Even than it seems interest is so low atm that it’s hard to see that ever being viable.
Gallop really took Fox to the cleaners last deal imo
 

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I just wonder what that Fox guy who negotiated that deal is now doing ... perhaps delivering an uber order pizza near you ... or maybe just doing his Centrelink activity.
Definitely worth asking the question, when they announced a $346 mill deal, even when you are allow for all the usual qualifications, even back then, it looked like a very generous deal when you consider no one else was bidding.
 

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Looks like the RU is in trouble in NSW with the main drawing team struggling to draw decent crowds

We're not going to give up': Waratahs boss on woeful Bankwest crowd
By Georgina Robinson SMH

April 28, 2019 — 6.03pm
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The Waratahs have vowed to stay the course in western Sydney despite the shock of a dismal crowd at their first game at Parramatta's Bankwest Stadium on Saturday.

Only 10,605 went through the turnstiles to watch as NSW lost to the Sharks, making the 30,000-capacity venue barely over a third full only a few days after the sold-out Eels v Tigers NRL match.

Tough going: A poor home crowd piled insult on injury during the Waratahs' round-11 loss to the Sharks at the new Bankwest Stadium on Saturday night. CREDIT:AAP
Compounding matters was that it was the new stadium's first night game, a plum fixture meant to spearhead NSW Rugby's push into western Sydney.
"It was not where we would have liked it to have been," NSW boss Andrew Hore said.
 

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Time for Twiggy to run the game in Aus, its a shambles.
Even the Wallabies would battle at the moment, puts the all time record for Docklands in some context, think the Lions tour next year, wonder where they will be fixtured?
 

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The A-League has completed its regular season and the crowds have dropped to an average of 10,423 - the third worst out of the 14 seasons so far. The only years to have lower averages were in 2009/10 and 2010/11 when both Gold Coast and North Queensland were still struggling along in the league.

There should be a boost next season when WSW move into their new stadium.

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On a club by club basis only Perth Glory had a decent year, recording their 2nd best home average in history. Melbourne Victory is still the highest drawing team by a country mile but had a poor year by their standards.

Melbourne City, Western Sydney and Central Coast had their lowest averages ever. Central Coast's figure of 5,562 is the lowest ever by a still existing club.

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The A-League has completed its regular season and the crowds have dropped to an average of 10,423 - the third worst out of the 14 seasons so far. The only years to have lower averages were in 2009/10 and 2010/11 when both Gold Coast and North Queensland were still struggling along in the league.

There should be a boost next season when WSW move into their new stadium.

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On a club by club basis only Perth Glory had a decent year, recording their 2nd best home average in history. Melbourne Victory is still the highest drawing team by a country mile but had a poor year by their standards.

Melbourne City, Western Sydney and Central Coast had their lowest averages ever. Central Coast's figure of 5,562 is the lowest ever by a still existing club.

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Meh. Happy with the Skyblues crowd this year considering the Gypsie status.

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How is Twiggy going to save Australian rugby?

10K show up to watch the 2nd placed (in the Australian conference) Waratahs play the first night game in a new stadium where the bottom 4 Swans can still pull 30K at the SCG

The only way Twiggy Forrest helps Aus rugby is if he kicks in a hell of a lot of coin to facilitate the transition to a new model to replace Super Rugby. I doubt he is prepared to do that
 

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How is Twiggy going to save Australian rugby?

10K show up to watch the 2nd placed (in the Australian conference) Waratahs play the first night game in a new stadium where the bottom 4 Swans can still pull 30K at the SCG

The only way Twiggy Forrest helps Aus rugby is if he kicks in a hell of a lot of coin to facilitate the transition to a new model to replace Super Rugby. I doubt he is prepared to do that
Its the new model that it is needed, Twiggy is the man to deliver it, that NSW suburban teams need have NO say in where the game goes, suck it up the way the WAFL was forced to by the national comp in Aussie Rules. Bums on seats is a measure.

A bit of a visionary Twiggy, R&D, self driving cars, Karratha:
https://thewest.com.au/business/min...ch-and-test-centre-in-karratha-ng-b881142952z

&
https://thewest.com.au/business/agriculture/forrests-combine-foods-for-7m-profit-ng-b881178640z
 
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Looks like the RU is in trouble in NSW with the main drawing team struggling to draw decent crowds

We're not going to give up': Waratahs boss on woeful Bankwest crowd
By Georgina Robinson SMH

April 28, 2019 — 6.03pm
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The Waratahs have vowed to stay the course in western Sydney despite the shock of a dismal crowd at their first game at Parramatta's Bankwest Stadium on Saturday.

Only 10,605 went through the turnstiles to watch as NSW lost to the Sharks, making the 30,000-capacity venue barely over a third full only a few days after the sold-out Eels v Tigers NRL match.

Tough going: A poor home crowd piled insult on injury during the Waratahs' round-11 loss to the Sharks at the new Bankwest Stadium on Saturday night. CREDIT:AAP
Compounding matters was that it was the new stadium's first night game, a plum fixture meant to spearhead NSW Rugby's push into western Sydney.
"It was not where we would have liked it to have been," NSW boss Andrew Hore said.
Serious doubts have been raised by even RU fans who were at the game to the actual size of the crowd.
 
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Looks like the RU is in trouble in NSW with the main drawing team struggling to draw decent crowds

We're not going to give up': Waratahs boss on woeful Bankwest crowd
By Georgina Robinson SMH

April 28, 2019 — 6.03pm
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The Waratahs have vowed to stay the course in western Sydney despite the shock of a dismal crowd at their first game at Parramatta's Bankwest Stadium on Saturday.

Only 10,605 went through the turnstiles to watch as NSW lost to the Sharks, making the 30,000-capacity venue barely over a third full only a few days after the sold-out Eels v Tigers NRL match.

Tough going: A poor home crowd piled insult on injury during the Waratahs' round-11 loss to the Sharks at the new Bankwest Stadium on Saturday night. CREDIT:AAP
Compounding matters was that it was the new stadium's first night game, a plum fixture meant to spearhead NSW Rugby's push into western Sydney.
"It was not where we would have liked it to have been," NSW boss Andrew Hore said.
 
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Looks like the RU is in trouble in NSW with the main drawing team struggling to draw decent crowds

We're not going to give up': Waratahs boss on woeful Bankwest crowd
By Georgina Robinson SMH

April 28, 2019 — 6.03pm
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The Waratahs have vowed to stay the course in western Sydney despite the shock of a dismal crowd at their first game at Parramatta's Bankwest Stadium on Saturday.

Only 10,605 went through the turnstiles to watch as NSW lost to the Sharks, making the 30,000-capacity venue barely over a third full only a few days after the sold-out Eels v Tigers NRL match.

Tough going: A poor home crowd piled insult on injury during the Waratahs' round-11 loss to the Sharks at the new Bankwest Stadium on Saturday night. CREDIT:AAP
Compounding matters was that it was the new stadium's first night game, a plum fixture meant to spearhead NSW Rugby's push into western Sydney.
"It was not where we would have liked it to have been," NSW boss Andrew Hore said.
It looks even more serious now for RU in Australia
https://www.theroar.com.au/2019/04/...kill-off-the-nrc-and-if-so-what-happens-next/
 

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Probably not a shock given the misalignment between the Lowy regime and the clubs combined with the ongoing slide in public interest.

Margin Call can reveal National Australia Bank — an institution not without its own problems — has decided to end its sponsorship of the fractious code.

NAB would not comment on the end of its 15-year partnership with the sport, but trust us — you can take this one to the bank.

It’s unlikely to be the last big corporate partner to part ways with Australian soccer’s peak administrative body, which last year audaciously parted ways with Frank Lowy, his son Steven Lowy and the family’s $8.92 billion fortune (and formidable contact book).

The NAB arrangement was one of a cluster of sponsorship — together worth well over $6 million a year — that was attached to former FFA directors who left the board after Steven Lowy resigned as chair (a role he had taken over from his father Frank) in November following what some have rudely dubbed a “peasants’ revolt”.

One of those departed Lowy-aligned board members was Joseph Healy, a co-founder of banking upstart Judo Capital, who until 2014 was an executive at NAB.

NAB’s annual sponsorship of the FFA was worth more than 2mayear—outstrippingeventhe2mayear—outstrippingeventhe1.68m the Lowys’ shopping centre business Scentre Group shelled out last year (and isn’t expected to renew).

Another multi-million-dollar sponsorship looks endangered.

Petrol shop Caltex last year spent $2.34m on its FFA sponsorship. It’s not clear how much longer that will continue after the departure from the FFA board of Simon Hepworth, Caltex’s chief financial officer.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/bu...t/news-story/3a66021acaba3f160897bfe09f3fb7a5
 
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It appears many professional RU Players- including Wallabies- support the views expressed recently by Israel Folau. An anti-RA player confrontation may soon erupt.
Some players (and others in the broader community) are saying a person is free to publicly express their religious views- & persons should not be sacked for expressing publicly their religious views.
Other players & RU fans (and others in the broader community) support RA over I. Folau's sacking.

Australian laws allow freedom of speech; & freedom of religion/freedom to express publicly one's religious views.

There are, however, legal limits on freedom of speech. These include Australian laws against comments which are defamatory (defined in law), racist, threatening to assault another person, "breaches of the peace"-type laws eg going into a theatre yelling out eg "I've got a bomb" etc.

There are also laws against discriminating against persons due to their religious beliefs.

An employer cannot legally have contractual terms which overide other statutory laws, or Common Law principles- even if the employee "agreed" to the term in the employment contract, courts would "void" it (irrespective whether it is a private employment contract; or the contract is under an Industrial Commission Award. One, also, cannot legally "contract out" of an Award, if it is to the employee's monetary detriment).

https://www.lawinsport.com/topics/a...of-conduct-hearing-the-likely-legal-arguments

Professional RU (&, probably, GR RU players & fans) might be soon facing an extremely divisive period if I. Folau is sacked by RA. I. Folau has commenced legal action to overturn his sacking.

RA has very strong financial support from Qantas (c. $4,000,000 pa). Qantas has longstanding & strong commercial relationships with Emirates Airlines, & flies to Islamic countries. Middle Eastern & Islamic countries have strong anti-homosexual views & laws.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-...m-takes-a-dramatic-twist-20190501-p51iuj.html

https://www.qantas.com/fflyer/dyn/partners/airline/emirates
 
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For some reason all the footy codes struggled yesterday.
The AFL had only 37,000 at Marvel for a Collingwood match.
The A League Final in Melbourne with Victory playing got only 16,000 the RU in Brisbane 8600 and the NRL in Sydney only 7683.
 

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For some reason all the footy codes struggled yesterday.
The AFL had only 37,000 at Marvel for a Collingwood match.
The A League Final in Melbourne with Victory playing got only 16,000 the RU in Brisbane 8600 and the NRL in Sydney only 7683.
The last two crowds look dire.
 
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