Opinion 2018 Non-Crows Discussion Thread

[Ferg94]

Thought I'd venture over to the main board to see if there was any decent discussion about the MCG hosting the GF until the end of time. Was just bombarded with Vic fans reveling in the "salty interstate tears"...
Man I'm going to enjoy it if we ever actually win another flag!

 

[Bicks]

Bicks article on Adelaide Now about the new GF agreement, the headline says something about interstate sides getting greater access to the G, can you post it please.

AFL Commission chairman Richard Goyder has accepted non-Victorian clubs’ concerns on the advantage handed to their Melbourne AFL rivals in the grand final - as noted in Richmond’s triumph against Adelaide in September.

Richmond’s 48-point win against the top-ranked Crows marked the fifth consecutive AFL grand final won by a Melbourne-based club against a non-Victorian team. For the fourth successive season, the lower-ranked Victorian team has gained the “home-field advantage” at the MCG.
Goyder has offered each of the eight non-Victorian clubs in the 18-team national competition:

A MINIMUM of two home-and-away games on the MCG every season.

Both Adelaide and Port Adelaide this season have two matches at the G. But fellow non-Victorian clubs Brisbane and Gold Coast have just one this year.

ACCESS to the MCG for one training session before a home-and-away game. This would most likely be the light, 40-minute “captain’s run” on the day before the match.

Non-Victorian clubs are repeatedly locked out of the MCG for training sessions, particularly on Fridays when there is an AFL game on the ground that evening.

ACCESS to the MCG for two training sessions in grand final week.

CHARTER flights - rather than commercial flights - after preliminary finals to get teams to their home bases to prepare for the grand final as soon as possible.

CHARTER flights to Melbourne - at the club’s preferred departure time - in grand final week.

 

[JP Sauce]

AFL Commission chairman Richard Goyder has accepted non-Victorian clubs’ concerns on the advantage handed to their Melbourne AFL rivals in the grand final - as noted in Richmond’s triumph against Adelaide in September.

Richmond’s 48-point win against the top-ranked Crows marked the fifth consecutive AFL grand final won by a Melbourne-based club against a non-Victorian team. For the fourth successive season, the lower-ranked Victorian team has gained the “home-field advantage” at the MCG.
Goyder has offered each of the eight non-Victorian clubs in the 18-team national competition:

A MINIMUM of two home-and-away games on the MCG every season.

Both Adelaide and Port Adelaide this season have two matches at the G. But fellow non-Victorian clubs Brisbane and Gold Coast have just one this year.

ACCESS to the MCG for one training session before a home-and-away game. This would most likely be the light, 40-minute “captain’s run” on the day before the match.

Non-Victorian clubs are repeatedly locked out of the MCG for training sessions, particularly on Fridays when there is an AFL game on the ground that evening.

ACCESS to the MCG for two training sessions in grand final week.

CHARTER flights - rather than commercial flights - after preliminary finals to get teams to their home bases to prepare for the grand final as soon as possible.

CHARTER flights to Melbourne - at the club’s preferred departure time - in grand final week.

Hahahaha!

So we get 1x 40 minute jog during the season. That evens things right up!

Thank you, AFL.

 

[From The Pocket]

Hahahaha!

So we get 1x 40 minute jog during the season. That evens things right up!

Thank you, AFL.

Didn't they just take away about 40 minutes of warm up?
Edit: 15 minutes per game, so 30 minutes all up this year

 

[AFC3000]

AFL Commission chairman Richard Goyder has accepted non-Victorian clubs’ concerns on the advantage handed to their Melbourne AFL rivals in the grand final - as noted in Richmond’s triumph against Adelaide in September.

Richmond’s 48-point win against the top-ranked Crows marked the fifth consecutive AFL grand final won by a Melbourne-based club against a non-Victorian team. For the fourth successive season, the lower-ranked Victorian team has gained the “home-field advantage” at the MCG.
Goyder has offered each of the eight non-Victorian clubs in the 18-team national competition:

A MINIMUM of two home-and-away games on the MCG every season.

Both Adelaide and Port Adelaide this season have two matches at the G. But fellow non-Victorian clubs Brisbane and Gold Coast have just one this year.

ACCESS to the MCG for one training session before a home-and-away game. This would most likely be the light, 40-minute “captain’s run” on the day before the match.

Non-Victorian clubs are repeatedly locked out of the MCG for training sessions, particularly on Fridays when there is an AFL game on the ground that evening.

ACCESS to the MCG for two training sessions in grand final week.

CHARTER flights - rather than commercial flights - after preliminary finals to get teams to their home bases to prepare for the grand final as soon as possible.

CHARTER flights to Melbourne - at the club’s preferred departure time - in grand final week.

So he's accepted it but basically done nothing about it? Seems about right.

 

[JP Sauce]

Oh AND we get flights at our preferred time! I reckon we've got the advantage now.

Might need priority draft pics for the Vic clubs to balance it out again.

 

[AFC3000]

Oh AND we get flights at our preferred time! I reckon we've got the advantage now.

Might need priority draft pics for the Vic clubs to balance it out again.

Ok ok I didn't see that we got to choose our departure time! All good then, I'm happy with what has happened here. FINALLY a truly national competition, we made it! Will always remember where I was at this moment.

 

[Bicks]

Hey don't crucify me I'm only the messenger.

 

[From The Pocket]

Oh AND we get flights at our preferred time! I reckon we've got the advantage now.

Might need priority draft pics for the Vic clubs to balance it out again.

Wow we're not beholden to the 9 departure times per day that we could choose from, from Virgin

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

AFL Commission chairman Richard Goyder has accepted non-Victorian clubs’ concerns on the advantage handed to their Melbourne AFL rivals in the grand final - as noted in Richmond’s triumph against Adelaide in September.

Richmond’s 48-point win against the top-ranked Crows marked the fifth consecutive AFL grand final won by a Melbourne-based club against a non-Victorian team. For the fourth successive season, the lower-ranked Victorian team has gained the “home-field advantage” at the MCG.
Goyder has offered each of the eight non-Victorian clubs in the 18-team national competition:

A MINIMUM of two home-and-away games on the MCG every season.

Both Adelaide and Port Adelaide this season have two matches at the G. But fellow non-Victorian clubs Brisbane and Gold Coast have just one this year.

ACCESS to the MCG for one training session before a home-and-away game. This would most likely be the light, 40-minute “captain’s run” on the day before the match.

Non-Victorian clubs are repeatedly locked out of the MCG for training sessions, particularly on Fridays when there is an AFL game on the ground that evening.

ACCESS to the MCG for two training sessions in grand final week.

CHARTER flights - rather than commercial flights - after preliminary finals to get teams to their home bases to prepare for the grand final as soon as possible.

CHARTER flights to Melbourne - at the club’s preferred departure time - in grand final week.

Wait, so how many training sessions did we get on the MCG before the GF last year? just 1 or none at all? It's a joke that this is not a pre-existing thing.

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

This really isn't very surprising though, I doubt they'll ever move it from the MCG without necessity, the best we can get is to have the dimensoins of the ground changed on the day.

 

[relapse]

The Port board thread on the SPP thing is getting even weirder, if that were possible.

Last time I visited there, they had began to bash the Channel 7 reporter and imply that her parents were imbeciles because of her first name.

"SPP is innocent because Elspeth is a dumb name and she's most probably stupid because her parents are for calling her that"

As always the filth amongst their supporters (most of them) emerge whenever there is a crisis at Alberton.

 

[relapse]

Why the hell don’t the non-Vic clubs band together and protest shit like this? Surely they hold some power united? What a joke.

We don't have the numbers

It's 10 Vic to 8 non-Vic, that is why I am desperate for North to move to Tassie so it will at least become 9 all.

At the moment it's a joke because the 10 Vic teams are running the show.

 

[MRB37]

 

[fabs33]

Hahahaha!

So we get 1x 40 minute jog during the season. That evens things right up!

Thank you, AFL.

I think you misspelt the first word of that last sentence.

 

[GrommoT]

I can for the life of me work out why we didn’t make the AO mcg size when it was redone, was the g physically too big to replicate there?

Probably would have added millions to the cost and required extending the east boundary further into the parklands (MCG is about 17m wider than AO) which they probably thought it wasn't worth it - and you'd have to get the conservative stakeholders to agree to it.

 

[Dc9798]

Would love to know what the CEO’s of the non-Victorian teams think about the GF announcement.
They probably won’t say anything against it as they’ll get fined by the VFL.
I don’t understand why you’d lock in an additional 20 years on a contract that still has 19 years to run, that’s so closed minded and flys totally in the face of a ‘National’ competition which has come so far in the last 30-ish years.


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[AFC3000]

Would love to know what the CEO’s of the non-Victorian teams think about the GF announcement.
They probably won’t say anything against it as they’ll get fined by the VFL.
I don’t understand why you’d lock in an additional 20 years on a contract that still has 19 years to run, that’s so closed minded and flys totally in the face of a ‘National’ competition which has come so far in the last 30-ish years.


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What did someone say, another 40 years now... who knows what the competition will look like then (probably still like the VFL in all honesty) because to go 40 years in the other direction takes you back to the 70s, a completely different time.

 

[Elite Crow]

AFL Commission chairman Richard Goyder has accepted non-Victorian clubs’ concerns on the advantage handed to their Melbourne AFL rivals in the grand final - as noted in Richmond’s triumph against Adelaide in September.

Richmond’s 48-point win against the top-ranked Crows marked the fifth consecutive AFL grand final won by a Melbourne-based club against a non-Victorian team. For the fourth successive season, the lower-ranked Victorian team has gained the “home-field advantage” at the MCG.
Goyder has offered each of the eight non-Victorian clubs in the 18-team national competition:

A MINIMUM of two home-and-away games on the MCG every season.

Both Adelaide and Port Adelaide this season have two matches at the G. But fellow non-Victorian clubs Brisbane and Gold Coast have just one this year.

ACCESS to the MCG for one training session before a home-and-away game. This would most likely be the light, 40-minute “captain’s run” on the day before the match.

Non-Victorian clubs are repeatedly locked out of the MCG for training sessions, particularly on Fridays when there is an AFL game on the ground that evening.

ACCESS to the MCG for two training sessions in grand final week.

CHARTER flights - rather than commercial flights - after preliminary finals to get teams to their home bases to prepare for the grand final as soon as possible.

CHARTER flights to Melbourne - at the club’s preferred departure time - in grand final week.

Thanks but that’s pathetic.

**** I hate the AFL.

 

[Shaz2012]

Agree that it’s strange the need to extend the MCG deal now when there is so much time to run.

Is this some kind of political scam. Did I read that the VIC government will pile in hundreds of millions of their tax payers money into footy facilities. I love footy but it must be a hard sell to the vic voters that this is good use of public money. So to get people on side they are locking in another 20 years with a fake threat of losing the grand final one day. Losing tradition etc.

Whether they locked this deal in now or in 20 years time the grand final is never leaving the MCG.

 

[footy4ever]

I'd also add that the grand final umpires should be selected in a jury-like process where both teams are allowed to veto umpires they perceive to give an unfair advantage.

The AFL will never do that. But it'd be good for the game.

Now this one, I like.

Cheating scum.

 

[footy4ever]

AFL Commission chairman Richard Goyder has accepted non-Victorian clubs’ concerns on the advantage handed to their Melbourne AFL rivals in the grand final - as noted in Richmond’s triumph against Adelaide in September.

Richmond’s 48-point win against the top-ranked Crows marked the fifth consecutive AFL grand final won by a Melbourne-based club against a non-Victorian team. For the fourth successive season, the lower-ranked Victorian team has gained the “home-field advantage” at the MCG.
Goyder has offered each of the eight non-Victorian clubs in the 18-team national competition:

A MINIMUM of two home-and-away games on the MCG every season.

Both Adelaide and Port Adelaide this season have two matches at the G. But fellow non-Victorian clubs Brisbane and Gold Coast have just one this year.

ACCESS to the MCG for one training session before a home-and-away game. This would most likely be the light, 40-minute “captain’s run” on the day before the match.

Non-Victorian clubs are repeatedly locked out of the MCG for training sessions, particularly on Fridays when there is an AFL game on the ground that evening.

ACCESS to the MCG for two training sessions in grand final week.

CHARTER flights - rather than commercial flights - after preliminary finals to get teams to their home bases to prepare for the grand final as soon as possible.

CHARTER flights to Melbourne - at the club’s preferred departure time - in grand final week.

Well thank you Richard, you cheating campaigner.

 

[Geoffa32]

The best "protest" us non Victorian clubs can hold is to make the Grand F8nal a non Victorian club affair.

We truly joined their league.

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[Elite Crow]

The best "protest" us non Victorian clubs can hold is to make the Grand F8nal a non Victorian club affair.

We truly joined their league.

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Sydney, GWS, Adelaide and even Port are a chance to fill out the top 4, so that could happen. I’d like to see West Coast replace Port and then that would be ideal. But West Coast aren’t that good.

 

[Deaneus!]

Geez, one supporter tells Damien Hardwick “you’re not at the MCG now” and the entire VFL freaks out