Opinion 2018 Non-Crows Discussion Thread

[cm_perfect]

Kidding right?

Go on, tell us anyway. It's a heartwarming story that will bring a tear to the eye..







(tears of joy)


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[subaru]

He had numerous chances to come clean, to save his and other people's careers. His ego didn't allow it. He chose to be a prick. Let him sell chocolates.

James "Marie Antoinette" Hird


I'm with you .... responsibility he took

Zero point zero

 

[Ramify]

He’s wasting his career there. Wonder if they’ll transition from Lyon to Hird. If you remove the drugs thing and look at it purely from a coaching ability standpoint then imho Hird is the better coach. Lyon is past it.

Based on what?

Has Hird ever coached without the drugs thing?
He didn’t seem to have much of a plan-B once the Thymosin started wearing off.

 

[Ramify]

Hang on, So Hird is selling Columbian imports, Bomber is being investigated in connection to our largest Coke haul and Goody is losing his rag in public?

I swear, If I wasn’t a paranoid conspiracy nut...

 

[Bender20]

Some people struggle to differentiate revenue from profit.

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Or bullshit from truth.

 

[FR0GGY]

Happy page 119 I guess, we can still mention 119 right, we weren't THAT bad?

So Port's profit was closer to $1 than it was to ours. Should our club buy a couple of ATMs and sponsor the Power with all of that spare cash? Would get our brand in front of an alternate demographic.

Could we actually sponsor them and get our name on their jumper?

 

[subaru]

Could we actually sponsor them and get our name on their jumper?

That'd be hilarious ......

Might take that idea to the Bay '

 

[PatientMental]

Could we actually sponsor them and get our name on their jumper?

Sure, we'll happily take your dirty money. If Rucci is correct you'd have to pay up though.

 

[Bicks]

Sure, we'll happily take your dirty money. If Rucci is correct you'd have to pay up though.

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That would be a first for cockrooch.

 

[PatientMental]

That would be a first for cockrooch.

Broken clocks and all that.

 

[subaru]

Sure, we'll happily take your dirty money. If Rucci is correct you'd have to pay up though.

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We been hearing this for over 119 days ....

 

[Sanders]

Look, I know what Hird did was bad but he has obviously suffered a lot, he tried to kill himself and spent 5 weeks in a psych ward, he’s now selling chocolate.

The chances of him reoffending are zero, give the guy a break and if this position helps him get his life back together, I’m all for it and the public should leave him alone. None of us are angels.

You’ve been far more empathetic ever since your own fall from grace; though I’m sure agreeing with Vader was just an aberration, a cry for help

 

[Roovolution]

James "Marie Antoinette" Hird


I'm with you .... responsibility he took

Zero point zero

He needed to come out right away and just accept all responsibility as he head coach, quit regardless of whether the club wanted him to or not, and step away from the game for a while.

 

[mistylake]

Yes. Just like other athletes and coaching staff and countries continue to reoffend. Hello Russia. Winning is everything and he has shown he doesn't care.

If he cared, he would admit what he ordered put into the players so they know instead of them having to be continually tested for life because they don't know what they were given.

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I doubt he knows exactly what “Dank” the real mastermind behind this was up to.
How did that mother ****er walk away seemingly scott free from this whole debarcle.

 

[Sanders]

Sorry but he endangered lives of athletes and didn't and still doesn't care about that. He has never taken responsibility for his actions and while he has mental health issues, he should not be welcome back into any sporting environment or an environment where he is responsible for other people's health and wellbeing. He knew better at the time and didn't care.

Oh FFS those peptides are regularly used in every gym in the western world, and have been so for decades

What they did was wrong, it was cheating, it was unethical, it was all sorts of ****ed up etc etc

But FFS lay off the Mengele hysteria

 

[Roovolution]

Based on what?

Has Hird ever coached without the drugs thing?
He didn’t seem to have much of a plan-B once the Thymosin started wearing off.

What you’re saying is pretty ridiculous. You think that Essendon’s success during his time was due to Thymosin? That’s it? We don’t even know the impact of Thymosin and you’re saying that from day one of Hird’s tenure he was pumping them full of this wonder drug and it directly resulted in them winning. That’s outlandish to say the least.

 

[Roovolution]

He had numerous chances to come clean, to save his and other people's careers. His ego didn't allow it. He chose to be a prick. Let him sell chocolates.

Come clean? Dank is the one who needs to come clean. Pretty confident Hird just let Dank his thing. Hird’s mistake was not being hands on and knowing wxactly what Dank was up to. Dank is a complete w***er. He’s the one who screwed them more than anyone.

 

[Roovolution]

Yes. Just like other athletes and coaching staff and countries continue to reoffend. Hello Russia. Winning is everything and he has shown he doesn't care.

If he cared, he would admit what he ordered put into the players so they know instead of them having to be continually tested for life because they don't know what they were given. Many of the possible substances in use are ones that have been identified to speed up cancerous growths btw. How would that make you feel as an athlete? If he cared he would have apologised to those players. If he cared about anyone but himself he wouldn't have kept doing all the pointless law suits past the point of him being told he couldn't win and to stop it. He only cares about himself purely when you look at his actions before, during, and since.

I also think Goodwin shouldn't be allowed to coach and I think everyone involved should have been ousted never to return. I've worked in the area of ethics in this country and what happened at Essendon was downright horrifying and how no one is in jail is only because the AFL don't want that to happen.

Do you know he hasn’t apologies to the players? Have any players come out and blamed Hird? Most don’t even blame the club. That says a lot about who was to blame.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Ross is getting desperate.

It's not like Hird is a good coach, outside of getting an illegal advantage...

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Bahahaha, just Googled - http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/ja...a/news-story/7b505b4b43d5eae76e33f90235ab1cf3

He's selling chocolate from cacao beans grown in Colombia, a place which was previously the drug capital of the world. I swear you couldn't write this stuff.

I'm sure his Columbian connections came to good use...

 

[Samcro24]

Ross is getting desperate.

It's not like Hird is a good coach, outside of getting an illegal advantage...

Should be a good injection of new ideas to the freo box.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Still doesn’t care? How do you know?

Do you think he would reoffend?

Well he hasn't cared to come out & taken responsibility publicly.

 

[1970crow]

You’ve been far more empathetic ever since your own fall from grace; though I’m sure agreeing with Vader was just an aberration, a cry for help

Must have missed something, what did EC do?

 

[NikkiNoo]

Do you know he hasn’t apologies to the players? Have any players come out and blamed Hird? Most don’t even blame the club. That says a lot about who was to blame.

Depends on the player. Rookies have been expendable and had to try the courts for compensation/information. He hasn’t spoken to the players and those still there were because they got good money. Others have left and Ryder couldn’t get out quickly. There was strong talk about Monfries not happy with certain things *cough* injections, as his reason for leaving.

 

[FR0GGY]

Must have missed something, what did EC do?

He was outed as one of alex_is_on_fire's aliases.