List Mgmt. 2018 St Kilda Trade Thread Part 3

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There will be a few who will be unhappy with whatever we do

I can just see us falling off a cliff in 5 years as :
Carlisle, Steven , Hannebury, Ross and Shiel all retire or run like geriatrics, whilst Dunstan is still trying to build up his tank.
We then plummet from our hard earned 9th spot on the ladder down to the bottom, and trade our first pick on some magic beans.

Jarryn Geary is 35 still fit as a fiddle and still winning the club time trial.
:/
 
I can just see us falling off a cliff in 5 years as :
Carlisle, Steven , Hannebury, Ross and Shiel all retire or run like geriatrics, whilst Dunstan is still trying to build up his tank.
We then plummet from our hard earned 9th spot on the ladder down to the bottom, and trade our first pick on some magic beans.

Jarryn Geary is 35 still fit as a fiddle and still winning the club time trial.
:/

Yeh let’s just stay off a cliff instead when we * up yet another good draft pick.
 
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-08/saints-could-move-top-pick-for-shiel

Saints could move top draft pick for Shiel
Jennifer Phelan Oct 8, 2018 12:28PM
THE SAINTS appear to have softened their stance on trading their first pick from this year's NAB AFL Draft if it helps them secure Giants midfielder Dylan Shiel.

Shiel is yet to declare his intentions for next season but the Saints are expecting to hear from the 25-year-old in the next 24 hours.

He's also been linked to Carlton, Essendon and Hawthorn.

The Saints were emphatic just last Friday their top pick – currently pick No.3 but set to become No.4 after the Tom Lynch compensation is awarded – was off the table.

But football manager Simon Lethlean said on Monday "all assets" would be in play if Shiel nominated the Saints.

"We're waiting to hear from Dylan in the next 24 hours so once we hear that, we'll assess and do some work with the Giants then," Lethlean told reporters at Marvel Stadium on day one of the NAB AFL Trade Period.

"All assets are on the table to get a deal done and we're keen on Dylan and if he's keen on us, we'll make it work.

"We haven't been told no so until we are, we'll put our best foot forward.

"I think he's deliberating now so until it's a no, it's a yes in our mind and we'll keep ploughing ahead as planned."

Shiel, Dan Hannebery and Dean Kent have emerged as the Saints' priorities over the next week and a half.

Lethlean said there was work to be done with Sydney and Melbourne in regards to Hannebery and Kent, respectively, but was confident the Saints could land the star Swan.

"We don't know [if we'll need extra picks to get Hannebery done]. We're talking to the Swans now, we've got picks, we've got future picks and we've got players so all those assets can be used," he said.

"We've had preliminary discussions with the Swans and that will take a few days I'm sure to flesh itself out."

They will also talk to West Coast about contracted ruckman Tom Hickey, who looms as a possible replacement for Scott Lycett. The Eagles' premiership ruckman is likely to shift to Port Adelaide after the Power tabled an offer for the free agent on Saturday.

"We haven't directly [talked to the Eagles]. We'll meet with most clubs today and in the next few days and if they're keen on Tom, we've told him we're available for him to go and source options for himself," Lethlean said.

"If that's one of the ones he's after, we'll talk to West Coast at some stage."

Again, Lethlean emphatically declared Jack Steven would remain a Saint while Luke Dunstan is also expected to stay, with no clubs raising his name in the early stages of the trade period.

Jack Lonie, whose has been linked to Collingwood, is overseas and contemplating the details of a contract offer from the Saints.

Lethlean said they would talk to the Power if Chad Wingard declared his intention to move, but they remained focused on Hannebery, Kent and Shiel first.

He also said they had no interest in Richmond's Jacob Townsend.
 
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-08/saints-could-move-top-pick-for-shiel

Saints could move top draft pick for Shiel
Jennifer Phelan Oct 8, 2018 12:28PM
THE SAINTS appear to have softened their stance on trading their first pick from this year's NAB AFL Draft if it helps them secure Giants midfielder Dylan Shiel.

Shiel is yet to declare his intentions for next season but the Saints are expecting to hear from the 25-year-old in the next 24 hours.

He's also been linked to Carlton, Essendon and Hawthorn.

The Saints were emphatic just last Friday their top pick – currently pick No.3 but set to become No.4 after the Tom Lynch compensation is awarded – was off the table.

But football manager Simon Lethlean said on Monday "all assets" would be in play if Shiel nominated the Saints.

"We're waiting to hear from Dylan in the next 24 hours so once we hear that, we'll assess and do some work with the Giants then," Lethlean told reporters at Marvel Stadium on day one of the NAB AFL Trade Period.

"All assets are on the table to get a deal done and we're keen on Dylan and if he's keen on us, we'll make it work.

"We haven't been told no so until we are, we'll put our best foot forward.

"I think he's deliberating now so until it's a no, it's a yes in our mind and we'll keep ploughing ahead as planned."

Shiel, Dan Hannebery and Dean Kent have emerged as the Saints' priorities over the next week and a half.

Lethlean said there was work to be done with Sydney and Melbourne in regards to Hannebery and Kent, respectively, but was confident the Saints could land the star Swan.

"We don't know [if we'll need extra picks to get Hannebery done]. We're talking to the Swans now, we've got picks, we've got future picks and we've got players so all those assets can be used," he said.

"We've had preliminary discussions with the Swans and that will take a few days I'm sure to flesh itself out."

They will also talk to West Coast about contracted ruckman Tom Hickey, who looms as a possible replacement for Scott Lycett. The Eagles' premiership ruckman is likely to shift to Port Adelaide after the Power tabled an offer for the free agent on Saturday.

"We haven't directly [talked to the Eagles]. We'll meet with most clubs today and in the next few days and if they're keen on Tom, we've told him we're available for him to go and source options for himself," Lethlean said.

"If that's one of the ones he's after, we'll talk to West Coast at some stage."

Again, Lethlean emphatically declared Jack Steven would remain a Saint while Luke Dunstan is also expected to stay, with no clubs raising his name in the early stages of the trade period.

Jack Lonie, whose has been linked to Collingwood, is overseas and contemplating the details of a contract offer from the Saints.

Lethlean said they would talk to the Power if Chad Wingard declared his intention to move, but they remained focused on Hannebery, Kent and Shiel first.

He also said they had no interest in Richmond's Jacob Townsend.

SL isn’t speaking like he’s given up hope of landing Shiel is he?
 
Yeh let’s just stay off a cliff instead when we **** up yet another good draft pick.

LOL.
Yeah.

In the 2001 superdraft, Carlton traded first, second and third round picks for Corey McKernon and Justin Murphy.
The picks ended up being Ashley Watson, Charlie Gardiner and Rod Crowe.

Carlton : Hooray with this talent we will win a premiership.
Geelong and Norf : Hooray we can draft a gun with a pick like this.

I can picture the Saints being on either side of a deal like that.
 

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If, as it sounds, we are a back-up option for Shiel, then I can't see us getting him. Who was the last player that ended up at a club that wasn't their preferred destination? Can't think of any off the top of my head.
Sorry, where is it that we are the back up option?

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Shiels situation is like standing at the bar and trying to decide between 3 girls for a one night stand...

The first is his childhood sweetheart. But she will only put out if he marries her.

The second (hawks) looks hot enough and ready to go but has herpes.

The third (us) is ugly as sin but is willing to have uninhibited sex with him four times a day and pay him for it...
 
Shiels situation is like standing at the bar and trying to decide between 3 girls for a one night stand...

The first is his childhood sweetheart. But she will only put out if he marries her.

The second (hawks) looks hot enough and ready to go but has herpes.

The third (us) is ugly as sin but is willing to have uninhibited sex with him four times a day and pay him for it...
Does he have to be seen out in public with option c?
 
Shiels situation is like standing at the bar and trying to decide between 3 girls for a one night stand...

The first is his childhood sweetheart. But she will only put out if he marries her.

The second (hawks) looks hot enough and ready to go but has herpes.

The third (us) is ugly as sin but is willing to have uninhibited sex with him four times a day...

Hawks it is! Just wrap it up.
 
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