So true. Ripping post!Turner a Rawlings type. You know, not glamorous but *gets stuff done*. You keep thinking a cleaner, faster, better skilled version should be there but end of the day you win more games with him than without him and it will take 10 years for that fancy new player to come along that displaces him, by which point he's had a great career and done more than more highly credentialed blokes that have come and gone in the meantime can dream of.