2018 Trade and FA thread (opposition supporters post in Trade Hypotheticals thread)

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Would he even be in their top 10 midfielders?
If Menzel accepts the Saints 2-year offer they will be without a small forward there. Chris Scott confirming on 360 that the cats developing youngsters are a few years off. His position at the dogs is very limited ..talk that F/S, Rylee West is good enough to go straight into the Dogs team.
 

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Nothing on the dogs board yet about Dahlhaus leaving, there is talk they would like Roughead from hawthorn to help and educate Schacke. Also talk the Suns have a big offer on the table for Mitch Wallace. The do mention the dogs get through their post season interviews in the first week after the season as they did last year and they usually hear who is staying or going quicker than other clubs.
 
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Nothing on the dogs board yet about Dahlhaus leaving, there is talk they would like Roughead from hawthorn to help and educate Schacke. Also talk the Suns have a big offer on the table for Mitch Wallace. The do mention the dogs get through their post season interviews in the first week after the season as they did last year and they usually hear who is staying or going quicker than other clubs.
If Wallis went to the Suns that would be our ultimate insult - and quite an extraordinary move on his part.
 

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They don't pay their younger players a fortune like we have to plus they make their players understand that pay structure is very important when it comes to winning premierships.
 

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Callum Towmey mentioned We need pace in defence and then said we should chase Jayden Hunt who looks out of favor at Melbourne would think Fagan will give Cox more games next season also he doesn't have high hopes for McStay as a forward and we should be on the lookout for a key forward in the Draft Barrett mentioned moving McStay back to defence and Andrews forward Twomey was against this because he sees Andrews as a future AA defender.

He also mentioned that we should trade Sam Mayes he believes he still has value and with us not playing him he should look elsewhere
 

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Callum Towmey mentioned We need pace in defence and then said we should chase Jayden Hunt who looks out of favor at Melbourne would think Fagan will give Cox more games next season also he doesn't have high hopes for McStay as a forward and we should be on the lookout for a key forward in the Draft Barrett mentioned moving McStay back to defence and Andrews forward Twomey was against this because he sees Andrews as a future AA defender.

He also mentioned that we should trade Sam Mayes he believes he still has value and with us not playing him he should look elsewhere
True what they said mayes has been pushed a side by the young guys
 
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Callum Towmey mentioned We need pace in defence and then said we should chase Jayden Hunt who looks out of favor at Melbourne would think Fagan will give Cox more games next season also he doesn't have high hopes for McStay as a forward and we should be on the lookout for a key forward in the Draft Barrett mentioned moving McStay back to defence and Andrews forward Twomey was against this because he sees Andrews as a future AA defender.

He also mentioned that we should trade Sam Mayes he believes he still has value and with us not playing him he should look elsewhere
Personally I agree and think the bolded sections are about right. I think Cox will probably get some more games next season (or a similar player) though with Witherden out the last few week, Christiansen has played well there. and Andrews certain can be an AA defender. Named in the squad this season after missing a lot of games. That says a lot.

I don't know how much currency Mayes is worth, but I wouldn't be surprised if he wanted out. He can't get a game for us, we clearly don't see him as an important part moving forward.
 

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How are Geelong paying for all these guys? Hawkins, Dangerfield, Selwood, Abblett, probably some more in there and now Dahlhouse
Their players don't get overpaid like other clubs. Seem to recall that Dangerfield & Selwood's contracts are around $800k per year which is unders and think that the others are in the same boat. Almost like the Patriots in the NFL, players are willing to take a discount to strengthen the overall team.
 

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Callum Towmey mentioned We need pace in defence and then said we should chase Jayden Hunt who looks out of favor at Melbourne would think Fagan will give Cox more games next season also he doesn't have high hopes for McStay as a forward and we should be on the lookout for a key forward in the Draft Barrett mentioned moving McStay back to defence and Andrews forward Twomey was against this because he sees Andrews as a future AA defender.

He also mentioned that we should trade Sam Mayes he believes he still has value and with us not playing him he should look elsewhere
Pick 5 and Mayes for either Adelaide’s or Port’s* first two picks.

*assuming Port receive Norths first for Polec.
 

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How are Geelong paying for all these guys? Hawkins, Dangerfield, Selwood, Abblett, probably some more in there and now Dahlhouse
Some inventive book work...After Dangers trade in 2015...Selwood extended his contract to the end of 2019...Ablett took a huge pay cut... just to be back in Geelong reported around $450,000 front ended..again last year Selwood extended to the end of 2021..Taylor also extended his contract to the end of 2019.
 

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Clarkson floating the idea of Jarryd Roughead exploring his options for next year whether that be at the Hawks or elsewhere.

They never seem to have any hesitation moving on club legends, Sam Mitchell, Jordan Lewis, Luke Hodge now maybe Roughead.
The hawks become the beacon for equalisation by spreading their experience and knowledge to the teams in need. AFL this is how it's done.

Well, it's working for us.
 

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It's understandable that Geelong and north Melbourne have a similar list management strategy and the Scott boys may have learned it during their time in Brisbane but not from Leigh Matthews rather from Wayne Bennet and the Brisbane Broncos in the NRL. Wayne Bennet is famous for moving on players as they come close to the end of their career, the great Wally Lewis and Qld legend Trevor Gillmister are 2 examples. He is also famous for limiting what certain positions are paid, he family says a Prop is not worth more than $400k a season and if they want more off you go. In his book he explains if you have too many older players nearing the end they band together and affect your culture as they want to play out their careers doing it their way. He argues you refresh from the bottom and trade in what you really need. And NRL players have much more freedom to move that AFL players. In the last few years we have seen both Geelong and North cut legends from their squads before they retire and some/most went of a year or 2 else where. Maybe those Scott boys are real hard buggers like they were on the field, not afraid to tell players what they will earn and when and if their is an argument they tell the club legends not to let the door hit them in the ass on the way out.
 
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Would be hoping for a more quiet trade period (although some activity still). Looks like we won't be losing any young prospects this off-season for the first time in awhile.

If Beams goes, he goes. Just try and get good value. Got faith in club. Rockliff, Hanley & Redden were all offloaded at exactly the right time to get peak value.
I agree with your overall point - but your backup facts are wrong. Rockliff was offloaded as an FA for pick 19. About 3 years after Melbourne offered us pick 2 for him.

Other than that, Redden we probably got a pass mark, and Hanley we did well out of, but mostly because he's been perma-injured since then.
 

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I agree with your overall point - but your backup facts are wrong. Rockliff was offloaded as an FA for pick 19. About 3 years after Melbourne offered us pick 2 for him.

Other than that, Redden we probably got a pass mark, and Hanley we did well out of, but mostly because he's been perma-injured since then.
Pick 2 ended up being Josh Kelly too.
 

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Given the offer to him last season, would he have been staying if he'd been choosing two more crappy years instead of returning to Melbourne?
He definitely would have left after two years and probably wouldn't be the player he is now given the state of our development coaching a few years ago. Still, maybe an actual Sliding Doors moment ;)
 
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