List Mgmt. 2018 Trade/Draft/FA SuperMegaUltra Thread - The Early Edition

Status
Not open for further replies.

Miguel Sanchez

Arrogant and insolent
Joined
Aug 10, 2006
Posts
34,839
Likes
31,692
Location
Shandong Gold Stadium
AFL Club
West Coast
Other Teams
Black Ducks, SAS, NYR, BEARS
I don't think so... probably only once we didn't find a deal and that was with Port for Jacobs and we ended up drafting him with the pick we offered them.
I'd put that down more to Port than to you. They and Essendon seem to be continually vying to be the biggest pricks during trade week.
 

(Log in to remove this ad.)

Kangaroos4eva

Hall of Famer
Joined
Aug 22, 2012
Posts
36,423
Likes
60,292
Location
NSW
AFL Club
North Melbourne
Other Teams
West Ham United
Utterly hypnotic.



I don't think so... probably only once we didn't find a deal and that was with Port for Jacobs and we ended up drafting him with the pick we offered them. We've most certainly made this financial offer to Gaff in the anticipation it's too big to match but if you called us on it I have no doubt we'll do our best to work something out.



Not yours to give.
We'll see about that.
 
Joined
Jul 26, 2007
Posts
60,186
Likes
70,211
Location
The Throne
AFL Club
North Melbourne
Other Teams
Arsenal, Gold City Royals
Moderator #7,480
I'd put that down more to Port than to you. They and Essendon seem to be continually vying to be the biggest pricks during trade week.
True... statement was more to the point we try and keep good relationships and be fair, Port weren't in that scenario and they ended up with nothing.
 

Candiru

Club Legend
Joined
Jan 27, 2018
Posts
2,004
Likes
3,182
AFL Club
West Coast
Hopefully it's not like our strategy
Your strategy is more like the kid at the underage disco who comes to understand that it's essentially a numbers game so just spends the evening asking as many girls as possible if they want to get with him.

Eventually, that boy becomes a man. A man with a tiny dick. He buys an expensive car to compensate.
 

Kangaroos4eva

Hall of Famer
Joined
Aug 22, 2012
Posts
36,423
Likes
60,292
Location
NSW
AFL Club
North Melbourne
Other Teams
West Ham United
Your strategy is more like the kid at the underage disco who comes to understand that it's essentially a numbers game so just spends the evening asking as many girls as possible if they want to get with him.

Eventually, that boy becomes a man. A man with a tiny dick. He buys an expensive car to compensate.
I prefer the darts missing the dart board analogy, but it's not too far from the truth. In saying that, every manager and his dog has linked (and leaked) North to their player during contract time this year and last.
 

CM9000

BigFooty Optimist
Joined
Aug 19, 2016
Posts
2,032
Likes
3,774
Location
Perth, WA
AFL Club
West Coast
Other Teams
East Fremantle, Warriors
Sure, I get that and the system does suck, but is he worth destablising your trade/list/salary strategy for this year?

Maybe, maybe not. I would guess that the Lycett situation may be the determinate factor here as he'll give you more wriggle room on the salary front, but even then, you'll need new ruck depth.
I guess the point I'm trying to make is that letting Gaff walk would be the worst result for us. He would almost certainly be leaving for family/personal reasons, so even if we matched, he'd still want to go. That in turn forces North to trade for him.

On the off chance that it is mainly about money, then why couldn't North agree to trade? Reaming clubs isn't exactly great for trade relations.
 

Candiru

Club Legend
Joined
Jan 27, 2018
Posts
2,004
Likes
3,182
AFL Club
West Coast
I guess the point I'm trying to make is that letting Gaff walk would be the worst result for us. He would almost certainly be leaving for family/personal reasons, so even if we matched, he'd still want to go. That in turn forces North to trade for him.

On the off chance that it is mainly about money, then why couldn't North agree to trade? Reaming clubs isn't exactly great for trade relations.
I think it is mainly about money. Why else would North be the front runner?
 

(Log in to remove this ad.)

Miguel Sanchez

Arrogant and insolent
Joined
Aug 10, 2006
Posts
34,839
Likes
31,692
Location
Shandong Gold Stadium
AFL Club
West Coast
Other Teams
Black Ducks, SAS, NYR, BEARS
I guess the point I'm trying to make is that letting Gaff walk would be the worst result for us. He would almost certainly be leaving for family/personal reasons, so even if we matched, he'd still want to go. That in turn forces North to trade for him.

On the off chance that it is mainly about money, then why couldn't North agree to trade? Reaming clubs isn't exactly great for trade relations.
What if he's only going because North have made him an offer he can't refuse, like $1.2m a year? We match, he says "Great, I didn't actually want to leave anyway" and we're left scrambling around trying to find room to accommodate that Godfather offer?
 

Candiru

Club Legend
Joined
Jan 27, 2018
Posts
2,004
Likes
3,182
AFL Club
West Coast
What if he's only going because North have made him an offer he can't refuse, like $1.2m a year? We match, he says "Great, I didn't actually want to leave anyway" and we're left scrambling around trying to find room to accommodate that Godfather offer?
We sell Mutimer in one of those Libyan slave markets.
 

CM9000

BigFooty Optimist
Joined
Aug 19, 2016
Posts
2,032
Likes
3,774
Location
Perth, WA
AFL Club
West Coast
Other Teams
East Fremantle, Warriors
I think it is mainly about money. Why else would North be the front runner?
What if he's only going because North have made him an offer he can't refuse, like $1.2m a year? We match, he says "Great, I didn't actually want to leave anyway" and we're left scrambling around trying to find room to accommodate that Godfather offer?
He mentioned that success, and the potential for it, would play a big part in his decision. North don't exactly scream "contender" to me, so the way I see things is that he's just taking the biggest offer to return home, not because the money is too good to refuse.
 

Kangaroos4eva

Hall of Famer
Joined
Aug 22, 2012
Posts
36,423
Likes
60,292
Location
NSW
AFL Club
North Melbourne
Other Teams
West Ham United
That's the punishment if they don't behave?

"You eat your vegetables or you'll be traded to North Melbourne!"
Could be worse, they could be sent to Freo or essendon* as their punishment. North's not so bad if you enjoy a more private lifestyle.

I guess the point I'm trying to make is that letting Gaff walk would be the worst result for us. He would almost certainly be leaving for family/personal reasons, so even if we matched, he'd still want to go. That in turn forces North to trade for him.

On the off chance that it is mainly about money, then why couldn't North agree to trade? Reaming clubs isn't exactly great for trade relations.
North simply can't afford to trade (with Polec, potentially Kelly next year, F/S and academy picks this year), we don't have the currency that would be deserving of him. In this case and unfortunate for future trading relations, North are looking after number one, themselves. In saying that, there can be future good will on North's part with the next few drafts (i.e. not going after each other's targets) and any near future trades (preferential deals) involving North and WCE. It's not much, but a gentleman's agreement is better than nothing than just a weak compo pick.

I don't particularly like that clubs get ripped off. Carlton were ripped off with Waite and I don't think the dogs got much for Higgins.

The compensation system is beyond rooted. North hasn't been badly affected by the compo system yet as we got 25 for a finished Daniel Wells due to contract size more than anything.
 

Candiru

Club Legend
Joined
Jan 27, 2018
Posts
2,004
Likes
3,182
AFL Club
West Coast
He mentioned that success, and the potential for it, would play a big part in his decision. North don't exactly scream "contender" to me, so the way I see things is that he's just taking the biggest offer to return home, not because the money is too good to refuse.
But if they were offering the same as us, surely he'd be staying put.
 

Obeanie1

Brownlow Medallist
Joined
Jul 26, 2007
Posts
18,348
Likes
11,415
Location
Darwin
AFL Club
West Coast
MS they won't need to pay that high a price because the 1.2 ( if correct ) will stop us matching their offer.
In reality they don't have to give us "diddle squat" for Gaff if we cant match the offer.

It would only be to Norths benefit to throw some thing our way so that trade relations are not soured in the future, no bad blood so to speak.

But North are not Geelong who have a reputation of trading fairly and are honourable to their players and opposition Clubs at the trade table.

The best situation that we can hope for is that Connors and Gaff assist us with getting fair compensation, failing that we are sadly at the mercy of the AFL's flawed system that will only net us a pick after our first rounder.
As much as I cant stand Connors I will acknowledge that he did help us get better compensation from Carlton in the Judd trade that we would have otherwise gained , but also a large part of that was Judd driven as he insisted that West Coast weren't screwed over by the move.

******* SUCKS :mad: but thats the way it may well play out.
Iif we match Gaff IMO will still want to go.

Then we talk trades with more than one club interested.

Pray we dont blink first.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top Bottom