News 2018 Trade News Compendium

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Collingwood and Brisbane admit agreeing a trade on Dayne Beams will be difficult to finalise (Jay Clark, Herald Sun, 14/10)

BRISBANE and Collingwood concede a deal for Dayne Beams will be extremely difficult three days out from the trade deadline.

Beams, 28, wants to return to Melbourne to be closer to family and friends and reunite with some of his 2010 premiership teammates at the Holden Centre.

But the brilliant midfielder is yet to submit an official request and make his intentions public because of any embarrassment it may cause if the two clubs are unable to strike a deal before Wednesday’s 8.30pm (EDT) trade deadline.

Collingwood looks to be handcuffed unless it is prepared to offer a future first or second-round pick to pass on to Brisbane for Beams.

The Magpies have picks No.18, 51, 56 and 57 but will need to use their top pick to snare dashing academy prospect Isaac Quaynor and father-son prospect Will Kelly under the draft points system.

The Herald Sun understands the Lions and Magpies have made contact in recent days about Beams and have jointly conceded a deal would be incredibly challenging to clinch so late in the exchange period.

Collingwood is yet to make any offers to Brisbane for Beams and there is minimal time to try and sway other Collingwood players to move north to clinch a deal.

While the Beams camp will ramp up efforts to bring the two clubs to the negotiating table over the next 48 hours, sources said Collingwood would most likely have to fork out a future first or second-round pick to make any progress on a deal.

But Brisbane has little interest in 2019 draft picks as it looks to keep Beams, add Fremantle ball-winner Lachie Neale, and jump up into the eight with an elite midfield next season.
 
Trade talk: Move not off Beam with Lions, Pies ready to discuss terms (Michael Gleeson, The Age, 14/10)

In one sense, Dayne Beams has not officially asked his club for a move to Collingwood this trade period.

In another sense, he had already done so when he told Brisbane late in the year he would return to Victoria at the end of his contract in two seasons’ time. If a move could be done sooner, he would be keen for the club to do it.

Talks are expected between Brisbane and Collingwood in coming days and the idea of a trade is understood to have moved from speculative to possible.

After Tom Langdon recommitted to Collingwood for a further three years after turning down offers of five to six years from Fremantle and four to five years from Sydney, the options for Beams' trade are narrower. Any move will require a creative arrangement and would appear to most likely need to involve future picks.

The Dockers still hold that they won’t trade Lachie Neale to Brisbane for pick 5, and even if they did so, pick five would be too much in a trade for Hogan.

Port has some minor interest in Brisbane defender Sam Mayes, a former first round draft pick.
 
Trade Wrap: Young Hawk warming to Power move (Nick Bowen, AFL.com.au, 14/10)

Fremantle appeared happy to hold its ground on contracted midfield star Lachie Neale and Melbourne spearhead Jesse Hogan, making no move to reopen its respective talks with Brisbane and the Demons.

Former Brisbane captain Dayne Beams also seems no closer to getting his desired return to Collingwood. The Lions would want a sizeable return to release the decorated midfielder from the final two years of his contract, but the Pies' first pick does not come until No.18 and no Magpies players have emerged as likely parts of a deal.

Wantaway Bulldogs defender Marcus Adams appears closer to getting his desired move to Brisbane. The Dogs had been seeking a pick in the 20s while the Lions hoped to do the deal for one of pick 41 or 44. But there could be room for compromise if Brisbane makes pick No.32 available in return for Adams and a favourable swap of later picks.
 

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Beams will only leave if trade benefits Lions (Dinny Navaratnam, AFL.com.au, 15/10)

STAR Brisbane midfielder Dayne Beams is open to staying at the Lions but would like to be traded back to Collingwood if a fair agreement can be reached.

Beams is contracted until the end of 2020 but AFL.com.au reported last week the 28-year-old wanted to return to the club he played at from 2009-14.

"About three months ago, Dayne and the club sat down and Dayne spoke to (Lions CEO) Greg Swann and I think (football manager) David Noble about the fact that after his contract expired in two years' time, that he would like to come back home. His wife's family is here and he would like to come back to Melbourne," Beams' manager Paul Connors told NAB AFL Trade Radio.

"He just said if a trade came up that was unbelievable for the club and suited the club, he would be open to it."

In an emotional speech at the best and fairest last month, Beams recommitted to staying at Brisbane.

"Will a trade get done? It'd have to be a very good deal for Brisbane to look at it," Connors said.

"I heard (Lions coach) Chris Fagan on the radio (last) week and he was right. Dayne's been a wonderful servant for their club, he's still got some footy left in him.

"It's a crazy week, trade week."

Days before Beams' speech at the club championship, Swann said "We are not trading him (Beams)".

"He (Beams) tried to take the heat out of it (with his speech). He's more than happy to fulfil his contract," Connors said.

"If a deal doesn't get done, he'll stay there, and that's why everyone's a bit obsessed whether he's going to demand or ask for a trade home.

"I don't think he has to but behind the scenes, I think there's some really mature conversations happening, and it'd have to be very much weighted in the Lions' favour for anything to be done, so let's just wait and see.

"Dayne would be open to it but he's very happy to stay at the Lions as well."

As to whether it was only Brisbane and Collingwood where Beams would be playing next season, Connors answered in the affirmative.

"I would've thought so."
 
Pies make bold offer for Dayne Beams (Jake Niall & Michael Gleeson, The Age, 15/10)

Collingwood have made a bold offer to bring their former premiership star Dayne Beams back to the club from the Brisbane Lions.

The Lions have thus far spurned Collingwood's offer of this year's first round draft pick, selection 18, and a future second rounder for the gun midfielder, who was the Lions' co-captain until mid-season.

Brisbane have placed a high price on Beams, and the Lions believe that it is most likely too late for them to consider Collingwood players as part of any trade deal, which remains a chance to be completed by the deadline.

Beams is keen to return to Collingwood in this trading period and it appears that the Magpies will likely need to use future picks if they are to land their former best and fairest winner, whom the Lions are reluctant to trade.

While Beams, who will turn 29 before next season, has still not formally requested a trade to Collingwood, all parties are well aware that this is the outcome he would prefer. The two clubs have privately held discussions in recent days over trade possibilities.

It is just a question of whether the Magpies can satisfy the Lions, who, ideally, would like to retain Beams and still get Lachie Neale from the Dockers.

Collingwood are interested in Beams but their priority this year has been to safeguard the points they require to secure next generation and father-son academy prospects Isaac Quaynor and Will Kelly this year. Clubs without requisite draft points can go into deficit. Presently Collingwood have three third round draft selections, 51, 56 and 57.

Meanwhile Fremantle have asked the Lions for pick No.5 and another draft choice inside the top 20 for their best and fiarest winner Neale, who has asked to be traded to the Lions.

The Lions have offered pick No.5 alone and argue that this selection can easily be turned into two first rounders with a number of clubs interested in trading down for that pick. It could also be passed onto Melbourne for Jesse Hogan.
 
Trade Wrap: Eagles stand by offer for Kelly (Nick Bowen and Mitch Cleary, AFL.com.au, 15/10)

Player agent Paul Connors has put Collingwood's pursuit of Dayne Beams back in the Pies' court as they seek to land a suitable trade for the 2010 premiership hero.

With Beams seeking to break his contract at Brisbane with two years to run, Collingwood has reportedly offered this year's pick 18 and a future second-round selection to the Lions, one that was knocked back.

Connors believes it's now up to the Pies to give the Lions a reason to entertain a deal for the 28-year-old midfielder.

"I've had brief conversations with Brisbane along those line, it's definitely a 50-50 to see what might happen," Connors told AFL.com.au.

"I think it's really up to Collingwood probably to see if they've got strong interest, they've got a lot of things playing out.

"They've just signed Tom Langdon so that might've been a surprise to them in the end.

"They've got to work out if it's Steven May or if it's Dayne Beams and time will tell over the next few days."

So Melbourne is hoping to get its hands on Brisbane's pick No.5 to satisfy Gold Coast, but is reliant on (a) Fremantle midfielder Lachie Neale's trade to the Lions going through and (b) the Dockers agreeing to pass on pick No.5 for Jesse Hogan.

With just two days remaining before Wednesday's trade deadline, both trades appear a long way from getting done.

Western Bulldogs list manager Sam Power told NAB AFL Trade Radio the club had been in "positive discussions" with Brisbane about a trade for key defender Marcus Adams. It's understood the clubs are closer to finalising to a pick swap that will see Adams make his way to the Gabba.
 


Jon Ralph: Beams and Neale deals both on track despite haggling. Lions have reassured Neale they will get him to Brisbane. Will need to include a pick from Beams trade (pick 18). They are open to it, but Swanny needs convincing and potentially the board. Once you are talking price, it’s on

Jon Ralph: Pies will try to get Beams while also securing Quaynor and Kelly and not going into huge points deficit. But have no likely father son or academy selections next year so could trade out a 2019 first or second rounder for Beams without compromising strategy. Best of both worlds
 

Tom Browne: Pies bold first Beams offer tells me deal reasonably close. Pies first, and future first, in exchange for a Brisbane future second, would probably appease the lions and get it done
 
Big names caught up in eight-club mega deal (Jake Niall and Michael Gleeson, The Age, 16/10)

Under the terms proposed on Tuesday, Neale would become a Lion in a swap that sends pick five – and perhaps another pick – to Fremantle, while the Demons would part with Hogan for picks six and 23 and then pass that selection on to Gold Coast for May.

Lobb’s move to Fremantle would bring the Giants into the deal, but this appears contingent upon Collingwood acquiring Beams in a trade that would net the Lions pick 18.

The Collingwood-Brisbane dealing appears to be the most problematic of these proposals and the Magpies are not certain to be part of the deal.

Brisbane have demanded two first-rounders for Beams from the Magpies – and they want them both this year, without handing back any second-round picks. This is a demand that the Magpies say they cannot meet, having offered pick 18 this year and a future second for Beams.

The Dockers are hoping that they can gain pick 18 from the Lions (who would get it for Beams) and then trade that choice for Lobb.

While the Neale-Hogan-May trades have long been linked – with Neale’s move to Brisbane enabling Hogan and then May to join the Dockers and the Demons respectively – there are a few surprising new elements in the proposed monster trade.

It is understood that Brisbane would prefer that Beams be cut out of the multi-club deal and that they want to make a deal with Fremantle without using Collingwood’s pick 18.

The Magpies need draft points for their academy player Isaac Quaynor and father-son Will Kelly, which is another complication if they trade pick 18 without getting a selection back that covers some of the points.

The view of some parties involved in the complicated deal – or related deals, if you prefer – is that Neale’s trade to Brisbane is the most critical component, because it triggers the Hogan and May trades.
 
Trade Wrap: Eight clubs tied up in deadlock (Nick Bowen and Mitch Cleary, AFL.com.au, 16/10)

Minor progress was made in shifting the crucial Neale domino when Brisbane and Fremantle met in Melbourne on Tuesday, but the clubs remain some way apart in their talks.

Strictly speaking, the Lions' offer for the dual Dockers best and fairest winner still stands at pick No.5 and Fremantle is still demanding this and another first-round pick.

However, it's understood both parties are inching towards compromise, with Brisbane potentially prepared to add a later pick as a sweetener and the Dockers showing signs of relaxing their demand for an additional first-round selection.

But the clubs will have to reach common ground shortly because Fremantle needs to use pick No.5 as the centrepiece of a deal with Melbourne for Hogan. The Demons, in turn, need to pass that pick on to Gold Coast to have any hope of securing May.

It's also understood Brisbane is not prepared to finalise a trade with Collingwood for Beams unless it has first secured Neale.

The Pies have offered pick No.18 and a future second-round pick for Beams, a deal the Lions quickly refused.

It probably also suits the Lions not to have pick No.18 or any other Collingwood selections in their possession for now, so the Dockers can't seriously eye them as part of the Neale talks.

The future of Marcus Adams is not directly tied into the Neale deal but the Western Bulldogs defender's bid to get to Brisbane could come unstuck if the Lions' negotiations on Neale and/or Beams go down to the wire.

The Bulldogs are still insisting on a pick in the 20s for Adams, who is contracted for another two years, while the Lions' second pick in the draft does not fall until No.32.
 

AFL: Trade paperwork officially lodged.

Brisbane Lions has traded Sam Mayes, Rd 1 (5) to Port Adelaide for Rd 1 (6) (on traded from Fremantle), Rd 2 (35) (on traded from Hawthorn) and its Future Rd 3 Selection (on traded from Fremantle).
 

AFL: Trade paperwork officially lodged.

Brisbane Lions has traded Future Round One Selection to the Gold Coast Suns for Rd 1 (19), Future Round 2 Selection & its Future Round 3 Selection (on traded from Hawthorn).
 

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Neale deal: Lions use Suns to improve trade hand (Jake Niall, The Age, 17/10)

Brisbane have agreed to a deal with Gold Coast that should secure Lachie Neale, without having to involve Dayne Beams and Collingwood.

It is an important deal in terms of the eight-club mega deal and leaves Brisbane in a stronger bargaining position over Beams.

Under the deal just reached, Gold Coast will trade pick 19 and their future second-round pick in exchange for Brisbane's first-round pick in 2019.

The Lions in turn have more or less agreed with Fremantle to trade picks six and 19 for Neale.

There are other later picks involved in the swap.

One of the consequences of this is that the Lions will land Neale without having to gain pick 18 from the Magpies as part of deal for Beams.
 

Nick Bowen: Lions and Dogs still have work to do to finalise Marcus Adams trade. But Brisbane has acquired additional picks this morning that could help it get the deal done: pick 35 and Suns' future second-round pick. Also hold pick No.32. The Dogs have been seeking a pick in the 20s
 

AFL: Trade paperwork officially lodged.

Fremantle trade Lachie Neale and Rd 2 (30) (on traded from Port Adelaide) to the Brisbane Lions for Rd 1 (6) (on traded from Port Adelaide), Rd 1 (19) (on traded from the Gold Coast Suns) and Rd 3 (55) (on traded from Geelong).
 

AFL: Trade paperwork officially lodged.

Western Bulldogs trade Marcus Adams to the Brisbane Lions for Rd 2 (32) and 2019 Future Rd 3 Selection (on traded from Gold Coast Suns).
 

AFL: Trade paperwork officially lodged.

Brisbane Lions trade Dayne Beams, Rd 3 (41) (on traded from Gold Coast Suns), Rd 3 (44) (on traded from Gold Coast Suns) to Collingwood for Rd 1 (18), Rd 3 (56) and Future Rd 1 Selection.
 

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