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2018- What Went Wrong

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Lade saying that moving the ball quickly out of defence increases the risk of turnovers in the back half vs moving slowly decreasing the opportunities to score shows why he needs to be fired into the sun.

Moving the ball quickly only increases the risk of turnovers if players are forcing options that aren’t ******* there. And that comes from not running into space to provide free ball. Get the ball moving and pull the defence out of position. It’s not that ******* hard. In defence, sure, be stagnant and keep zones. Offence should be fluid. The only time you shouldn’t be moving the ball fast out of defence is when the opposition is hanging back waiting to play you on the counter.

1 out of 2 isn't to bad.
 
Lade saying that moving the ball quickly out of defence increases the risk of turnovers in the back half vs moving slowly decreasing the opportunities to score shows why he needs to be fired into the sun.

Moving the ball quickly only increases the risk of turnovers if players are forcing options that aren’t ******* there. And that comes from not running into space to provide free ball. Get the ball moving and pull the defence out of position. It’s not that ******* hard. In defence, sure, be stagnant and keep zones. Offence should be fluid. The only time you shouldn’t be moving the ball fast out of defence is when the opposition is hanging back waiting to play you on the counter.
Couldn't agree more. So often we blame the player with the ball in hand for slow movement/poor decisions, yet it is often his teammates that aren't providing enough good options.
 
Dawned on me last night as my internet stream went to custard when the microwave was on. I reckon that great technological innovation of the last few weeks is responsible. Every time a heat pack or sausage roll was prepared, poor Ken Jr's data feed would have gone haywire. We all know the program is written to fail safe to "lock down defence", and so player instructions were muddled and confused.

Don't believe me? How many games have we won since that was introduced?? Coincidence? I think not :p
 
Couldn't agree more. So often we blame the player with the ball in hand for slow movement/poor decisions, yet it is often his teammates that aren't providing enough good options.
But also a game plan that isn't predictable.

If his team mates knew he was going to roll on and the direction he was going to go to was predictable it would be far easier for them to move quicker sooner.

Everyone could have been busting a gut to lead to space for Boak on the weekend and all it would have done is created congestion as he went back slowly.

Instead they try and hold their lead til he actually looks up and by then the play has slowed and the space is full.

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Agree with a lot of this post but you are being way too harsh on Bonner. He was pick 37 and is only in his third season yet played 19 games (up from 3 last year and 1 the year before).

Should he have been rotated out more? Yeah probably. But he still has a lot of potential and plenty of upside (that we will almost definitely completely waste of course).

Yeah fair enough.

Honestly, i just dont trust us to develop him
 
Lade saying that moving the ball quickly out of defence increases the risk of turnovers in the back half vs moving slowly decreasing the opportunities to score shows why he needs to be fired into the sun.

Moving the ball quickly only increases the risk of turnovers if players are forcing options that aren’t ******* there. And that comes from not running into space to provide free ball. Get the ball moving and pull the defence out of position. It’s not that ******* hard. In defence, sure, be stagnant and keep zones. Offence should be fluid. The only time you shouldn’t be moving the ball fast out of defence is when the opposition is hanging back waiting to play you on the counter.

It's a loser mentality.

Moving the ball quickly increases the chances of both teams scoring. Moving the ball slowly decreases the chances of both teams scoring. If you back your own players and system, you'd take the former option. If you doubt your players and system and want to degenerate the game into a controlled scrap where one or two moments will decide the game, you'd take the latter option.

Our coaches have a loser mentality and we get what we deserve.
 

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It's a loser mentality.

Moving the ball quickly increases the chances of both teams scoring. Moving the ball slowly decreases the chances of both teams scoring. If you back your own players and system, you'd take the former option. If you doubt your players and system and want to degenerate the game into a controlled scrap where one or two moments will decide the game, you'd take the latter option.

Our coaches have a loser mentality and we get what we deserve.


The best bit about Ports is watching us kick deep into the pocket on the way out of defence with our first kick, the opposition must lick their lips watching us do this, it's so negative and we don't go anywhere, only to kick it up the line and turn it over once the ump says play on..... How often does it seem we can never get out of our backline with this method.

I worry about Lade days. he should go coach country footy back on KI.....
 
It was either impossible or damn too easy. In those patches when we would simply get into "stand-by," teams would roll us over at will. We probably tried to fix that this season, but the treatment ended up being worse than the malaise.

The exception were the best teams, though.
Yeah but in all fairness we weren't that far away in 2017 nor in 2018.
The best of 2017 combined with the best of 2018 would see us competing for the premiership.
The worst of both years would see us close to bottom and bits and pieces from both years sees us finish where we did.

2018 has gone we still have a team that can compete in 2019 but as a number of key players aren't getting younger at this stage 2020 is anyone's guess.
 
It's a loser mentality.

Moving the ball quickly increases the chances of both teams scoring. Moving the ball slowly decreases the chances of both teams scoring. If you back your own players and system, you'd take the former option. If you doubt your players and system and want to degenerate the game into a controlled scrap where one or two moments will decide the game, you'd take the latter option.

Our coaches have a loser mentality and we get what we deserve.

Like when we're beating West Coast at home and the coach is interviewed at half time claiming we're playing too fast.

Hahahaha **** off.
 
Our fans are so dumb.
We had the right to be cocky. It was necessary a 1-5 record in the past six games to kick us out of the Finals. We did something for the record books!
 

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Amazing how many people on here haven’t done the A level coaching program and yet we all pretty much agree with what went wrong. I think somebody nailed it perfectly, robbing Peter to pay Paul. The fact that we thought playing Dixon and Westhoff as ruck swap outs after not learning anything in 2015 is beyond understandable. Just either the sheer stubbornness or stupidly to not play a recognized ruckman makes me so angry.

I love this club, it’s been a big part of my family for over half a century but I’m at a loss at where we are going. I understand the importance of finance and revenue. But when did somebody decide that this was more important that actually winning games of football. It’s easy to blame Koch and Co, but I’ll put it ou there. The whole board is responsible for our poor results. This club seems paralyzed in the inability to make the tough decisions. Panicking and resigning Hinkley last year, now Koch on public basically endorsing failure is not the club I grew up supporting. I’ll always support this club but I’m emotionally spent.
 
Are we: Freo Lite, Freo², Freo2theMax? At least they'd been up towards the top when they re-signed Lyon on a loooong contract...

"When Lyon signed a contract extension until 2020 in March 2016 it felt like the Fremantle Doctor was blowing gusts of goodwill through that premiership window, with Freo fans agog at the new prospect of a period of 'sustained success', one of the coach's favourite quips back then.

But fast forward 10 games into that season and the Dockers had been rendered woeful ... they were winless and it was blatantly clear their window had somehow abruptly slammed shut; what was unclear was why it closed so ruthlessly. The answer may be blowing in the wind for some time.

Perhaps Lyon inadvertently put the writing on the wall for the entire 2016 season and ensuing two seasons when he said after a four-point loss to a "developing" Carlton that "our ability to transition the ball in a productive way out of centre back is our annus horribilis".

Three years later and Lyon is still up to his arse trying to get his players to transition from defence to attack in a manner befitting a finals team."

Extract from
 
Like when we're beating West Coast at home and the coach is interviewed at half time claiming we're playing too fast.

Hahahaha **** off.

Wait...what? Why haven't I heard about this already? **** me what a shit show.
 
We had good structure early, especially with the three tall forward line.

The issue is either the lack of trust/bravery from the selection committee to replace injured or out of form players with like for like. We constantly just shift our whole squad around, making multiple areas weaker and wonder why we are struggling.
 

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